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I felt like I walked into a dungeon after doing the outside puzzles. Fire cave felt like more of that mountain and I've already forgotten what the first one was besides whacking spiders and crystals
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Okay but like, there was a big title card across the screen and everything.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:04
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romanowski posted:absolutely baffled by this statement It's extremely subtle and seamless the way the game transitions from overworld to dungeon. Very easy to miss the gigantic door, the cutscene of link stoically walking down huge ancient stone stairs, the screen transition, change in music, dungeon introductory cutscene, and brief conversation with Fi. You've gotta have a sharp eye and be really tuned into the world design to spot these little clues
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Jul 29, 2021 18:07
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Khanstant posted:People bringing up the map, red x on map, or talking to moles: Show don't tell. If this were originally a Wii U or DS game, maybe I could get trying to hamfist in map gimmicks, but lol, the sand areas where you don't sink having no visual indicator whatsoever is goofy. Use the map, plop a beacon, naw, just design it better. They actually do it right sometimes, give you a patch of grass to run toward, throw a slime in to show it's solid in a direction, cool, good. Beginning to think maybe there was a reason they originally had Fi explain everything to the player
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Jul 29, 2021 18:11
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How can you talk about the Lanayru Mining Facility without talking about how awesome the timeshift stone gimmick is? It’s one of the few actually cool and innovative mechanics in the game. It’s why Lanayru is the best area. Of course the best dungeon is the next one, Ancient Cistern, but the Mining Facility and the Sandship are also awesome. Edit: Khanstant posted:People bringing up the map, red x on map, or talking to moles: Show don't tell. If this were originally a Wii U or DS game, maybe I could get trying to hamfist in map gimmicks, but lol, the sand areas where you don't sink having no visual indicator whatsoever is goofy. Use the map, plop a beacon, naw, just design it better. They actually do it right sometimes, give you a patch of grass to run toward, throw a slime in to show it's solid in a direction, cool, good. If only there had been a series of giant walls in the area that gave you a reference point for where you could walk on the sand. Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 18:14
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:How can you talk about the Lanayru Mining Facility without talking about how awesome the timeshift stone gimmick is? It’s one of the few actually cool and innovative mechanics in the game. It’s why Lanayru is the best area. Of course the best dungeon is the next one, Ancient Cistern, but the Mining Facility and the Sandship are also awesome. I thought it was a really cool idea but it wasn't really used to its full potential in the dungeon itself (I don't know if it comes up again later). It's mostly just used to remove sand from rooms and spawn new enemies. I could see it being used to incredible effect if a new game did it today though.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:18
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I realized when watching a video on BotW that the geography of Hyrule in both games is the same, too, down to the names of the major locations I've absolutely been sucked into the theories about the Zonai/Twili relationship and the first BOTW2 trailer, and now I'm absolutely convinced they're going to tie BOTW2 back to SS.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:51
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The Water Dragon is easily the worst character in this game because you walk in already having proven yourself explicitly as the chosen hero of the goddess wielding her legendary sword and already having done a dungeon or two and she’s still like duhhh you need to prove yourself as the chosen hero if you want my help, and the fucker does it twice
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Jul 29, 2021 19:07
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Cattail Prophet posted:Okay but like, there was a big title card across the screen and everything. No poo poo, doesn't mean it feels like a dungeon because they announce "here's our dungeon, you can tell mostly because we're telling you" Blackbelt Bobman posted:How can you talk about the Lanayru Mining Facility without talking about how awesome the timeshift stone gimmick is? It’s one of the few actually cool and innovative mechanics in the game. It’s why Lanayru is the best area. Of course the best dungeon is the next one, Ancient Cistern, but the Mining Facility and the Sandship are also awesome. Had no problem navigating the sand paths, it's just a stupid gimmick and I wasn't impressed with how they implemented it. In the actual dungeon especially it was useless, you didn't need to use the map or visual indicators just fuckin run lol. The fact that the gust does nothing whatsoever with it is also just ??? to me. The sand piles room where you just had a little spike maze and switch to hit I briefly thought was better than it was, because the sand graphics were glitched in that room. I thought perhaps they wanted me to push sand into piles around the room to get over the spike walls, which would've been a cool use of the bellows but it's a special kind that only destroys dust. Time crystal was neat, always like a light world / dark world but didn't feel like they did all that much with it. I kept waiting for them to make me have to do something in one mode to carry over into the other to accomplish or move something you otherwise couldn't... but it never happened. Twice I overthought puzzles assuming they were finally utilizing it further. First in a room where I thought they wanted me to take the baby electro-crabs to put them space apart so I could do sand-dashing and rest on their shells to recover stamina. Another time, first time I encountered the door guardian totem, I thought they wanted me to lure it away, hit the crystal to make him inert away from the door, then I could proceed. But you just have to turn the past on to wake it up and fight it, it's a fine enemy but they weren't really doing anything by making me hit a switch to turn it on once.
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Khanstant posted:No poo poo, doesn't mean it feels like a dungeon because they announce "here's our dungeon, you can tell mostly because we're telling you" It really is kinda hard to play this game after playing BOTW because that game gives you liberty to do anything and every puzzle has three or four different ways to solve them. Next time you’re lost don’t be afraid to ask Fi because she really does spoil absolutely every puzzle for you.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:11
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Good news, when you return to Lanayru there are tons more puzzles that utilize the timeshift stones in creative ways. It took me a few minutes after getting the Bow to realize they change it in this version so you don’t have to pull back with the left controller to ready the arrow. I’m guessing it’s because that would be impossible to replicate in button-only mode and it would be an unfair advantage to the people using motion controls. Tbh it makes the bow less fun when you can’t just instantly ready arrow and shoot them rapid fire.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:15
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Wasn't stuck on the third dungeon, it was better designed than the first two. I was just in vain hoping the solution was more than flip switch, plop thunderbaby in hole. Best part of game so far to me, and I hope he returns in future games, is the friendly demon guy. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Jul 29, 2021 19:17
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Khanstant posted:Wasn't stuck on the third dungeon, it was better designed than the first two. I was just in vain hoping the solution was more than flip switch, plop thunderbaby in hole. Ghirahim was in Hyrule Warriors and was just as ridiculous. Unfortunately the trade-off is that Fi is also a character in it and The Imprisoned is a boss enemy. Edit: in case people care, Fi is pronounced like the Greek letter Phi and not like Fee.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:22
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Good news, when you return to Lanayru there are tons more puzzles that utilize the timeshift stones in creative ways. You can totally do the motion control for the bow to ready it instantly though. Press L and waggle backwards with the left joycon.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:32
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Ghirahim was in Hyrule Warriors and was just as ridiculous. Unfortunately the trade-off is that Fi is also a character in it and The Imprisoned is a boss enemy. Wrong friendly demon guy. I think they mean Batreaux. Also, that pronunciation guide is a bit funny if you pronounce Phi as fee.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:56
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Calaveron posted:You can totally do the motion control for the bow to ready it instantly though. Press L and waggle backwards with the left joycon. Does it say this in game somewhere? I didn’t realize I had to hit L and there aren’t like, control instructions in the game as far as I could see. Why aren’t you holding my hand, Nintendo 
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Just Andi Now posted:Wrong friendly demon guy. I think they mean Batreaux. It is pronounced like that in modern greek, isn't it? But yeah it's /faɪ/ not /fiː/
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Jul 29, 2021 20:10
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Just Andi Now posted:Wrong friendly demon guy. I think they mean Batreaux. Somehow missed the word “friendly.” Batreaux is… a character that exists. I actually like the side quests in the game, they’re fun for world building although one or two of them require you to go all over the loving world which is annoying as hell. Most of them are good and the rewards are good.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:12
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It's pronounced as in "Wi-Fi", right? I thought that was the intent given her constant technobabble
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Raylax posted:It's pronounced as in "Wi-Fi", right? I thought that was the intent given her constant technobabble Yeah that’s a better example than the one I used. Idk if that’s the origin of her name but it works.
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I like how you can be nice and get a couple together, or have a toilet ghost haunt Cawlin. Either way Cawlin doesn’t get to be happy
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Jul 29, 2021 20:18
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I always thought it was hilarious how, in the game that is by far the most explicit about Zelda being Link's love interest, you can have Link start dating the Item Check Girl instead (with Fi even confirming that Link is actually legit into her if you scan her afterwards)
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bobjr posted:I like how you can be nice and get a couple together, or have a toilet ghost haunt Cawlin. I didn't do the toilet ghost path on my initial playthrough years ago because I just assumed it would play out like the similar quest in Majora's Mask, but I did it this time and the end of that path is so fuckin funny and grim. poor guy is doomed to be tortured in his dreams every night for the rest of his life but at least Link got his Gratitude Crystals
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Edit: in case people care, Fi is pronounced like the Greek letter Phi and not like Fee.
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Well sure. Does anyone say “wee-fee” when talking about their wireless LAN?
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Loucks posted:Well sure. Does anyone say “wee-fee” when talking about their wireless LAN? I saw 22 Jump Street and yes
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I saw 22 Jump Street and yes Wild. Surely there’s some sort of fund for victims of that film. Seems like a class action gimmie.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Edit: in case people care, Fi is pronounced like the Greek letter Phi and not like Fee.
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TheLoneStar posted:I had always assumed this was what it was. IIRC it was even spelled Phi in the first reveals of SS.
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For those unfamiliar with the newspaper comic strip thread, there is a character in the (terrible) strip On the Fastrack that is named "Fi" and it is pronounced "fee" and that always confused me.
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Loucks posted:Well sure. Does anyone say “wee-fee” when talking about their wireless LAN? I think the French do? Anyway Cawlin and the toilet hand rules and comes totally out of left field. The game is funny and doesn’t take itself too seriously!!!
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Man I just sorta horrified myself by slaughtering a horse in BOTW expecting it to give me meat and it just rag dolls the corpse and it stays there on the ground.
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bobjr posted:I like how you can be nice and get a couple together, or have a toilet ghost haunt Cawlin. Hahaha I didn't even think about harassing that nice young lady with the letter, I just wanted to help toilet hand. Beedle is also in top form in this game, BotW muted him too much. Got really good "thank yous" and very powerful "ooohhhhhhh." He's cold-blooded too, straight trapdoor'd me out the shop once. Whatever dude, you ripped me off with this stinking heart medallion, that's why I can't buy nothing else.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:Man I just sorta horrified myself by slaughtering a horse in BOTW expecting it to give me meat and it just rag dolls the corpse and it stays there on the ground. You monster
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Loucks posted:Well sure. Does anyone say “wee-fee” when talking about their wireless LAN? The French? I spent some time in France and they say "wee-fee." It just rolls off the tongue after awhile. I refuse to pronounce Fi any way other than "Fee" however. If they wanted it to be pronounced with a long "i" they ought to have spelt it differently. 
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Loucks posted:Well sure. Does anyone say “wee-fee” when talking about their wireless LAN? Blackbelt Bobman posted:I think the French do? I can imagine this, but only in the most outrageous Peter Sellers-esque accent
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Don't the Brits say whiffee
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Silver Falcon posted:I refuse to pronounce Fi any way other than "Fee" however. If they wanted it to be pronounced with a long "i" they ought to have spelt it differently. Jack and the Beanstalk must be an interesting read for you because this would mean you say "fee fee foe fum" when you read the giant's dialog.
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Man, I just did not enjoy Lanayru Mining Facility. The first half was just full of that dumb quicksand, and the second half starts out neat with timestones, but mostly uses them in ways where you're just constantly slow-walking along with a mine cart. And god help you if you don't know where you're going, just endless slow loops around the same tracks. And as a final indignity, if you die to the final boss the checkpoint is yet another pointless timestone trek back to start it over again  I think real life got in the way of this one, I've been stressed out and grumpy lately, and lack of gaming time meant it was broken up between three or four evenings, so I was constantly wandering around trying to remember what I was even doing. I just wasn't in the right headspace to enjoy it I guess.  At least it's immediately followed up by the start of Groose's turn from dumb bully to all-time great side character 
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