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ImpAtom posted:To be fair several of Deku's powers are defensive or mostly defensive. It works because he’s the mirror to All For One. He takes others’ Quirks and makes them all work together, carefully analyzing and deconstructing them until they become a part of him. Meanwhile, AFO only sees Quirks as blunt weapons. He rejected stealing Best Jeanist because…why waste time mastering fiber control? He’s got twenty other Quirks to play with.
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Vengarr posted:It works because he’s the mirror to All For One. He takes others’ Quirks and makes them all work together, carefully analyzing and deconstructing them until they become a part of him. Meanwhile, AFO only sees Quirks as blunt weapons. He rejected stealing Best Jeanist because…why waste time mastering fiber control? He’s got twenty other Quirks to play with. The problem there is "making your ability work for you and become a natural part of who you are" is the baseline expectation for a MHA character. It isn't really interesting for Deku because it doesn't actually take advantage of any of his distinctive traits. It should in theory make use of his fanboyism but it really doesn't because he just gets a crash course from the previous user. If anything I think All-Might is a more natural counter for All For One. He only had one power but it pushed it to its fullest (as far as he knew) and was able to overcome AfO's many many powers because of it IIt wasn't about how many powers he had but how he used them that mattered in the end. In comparison think Deku is supposed to be the logical thematic counterpart to Shigaraki. Both are the successors to their respect OFA/AFO quirk holders. Deku is willing to do anything to help others and destroys himself doing it while Shigaraki has given up hope of anything but destroying others. Deku was a nobody with no special ability while Shigaraki was the grandson of the last OFA users. They're two sides of a coin and Deku's plot is building up towards how he'll respond to Shigaraki who is basically his awful mirror in every way. At the end of the day Deku's special element isn't his powers but his personality and his desire to save others vs the living embodiment of "I destroy everything I touch. (including myself)" Hell poor Eri was basically a new Shigaraki in the making before Deku saved her.
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It's a little premature to judge Deku's quirks considering how little time he's had them or has been able to show them off in the series. We don't even know what the last one is yet. Also I think the only one that's a bit out of nowhere is smokescreen, everything else just fit into the 'Spiderman-expy' slot. And I still like the way smokescreen has been used so far, Anyway, when comparing Deku and Crawler I think it's fair to say that both of them lean towards different kind Spiderman-ness. Koichi nails the whole friendly neighborhood spidey battling street level villains in terms of the tone and regarding his quirk it's more about fun, creative uses that don't really amount to much. Deku is definitely more of a dramatic high-stakes guy and he gets a ton of "go beyond, lift a building cuz you have to" moments which is something Spidey does pretty regularly. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jul 24, 2021 |
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Vengarr posted:It works because he’s the mirror to All For One. He takes others’ Quirks and makes them all work together, carefully analyzing and deconstructing them until they become a part of him. Meanwhile, AFO only sees Quirks as blunt weapons. He rejected stealing Best Jeanist because…why waste time mastering fiber control? He’s got twenty other Quirks to play with. AfO rejected stealing Jeanist's Quirk because it'd take too long for Shigaraki to master. Like, he literally said that outright.
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Vinylshadow posted:Vigilantes 106 i appreciate the bored good guy mooks bouncing pebbles off the heads of the living bombs while they wait for salvation or horrific death to come
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Nephthys posted:It's a little premature to judge Deku's quirks considering how little time he's had them or has been able to show them off in the series. We don't even know what the last one is yet. Also I think the only one that's a bit out of nowhere is smokescreen, everything else just fit into the 'Spiderman-expy' slot. And I still like the way smokescreen has been used so far, I don't remember Spider-Man having a floating ability.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I don't remember Spider-Man having a floating ability. Some versions of Spider-Man/Spider-Woman let them use underarm webflaps like a wingsuit, if that counts
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Mraagvpeine posted:I don't remember Spider-Man having a floating ability. TBF I also don't remember his to charge up kinetic energy and release it in a huge burst
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Lotus Aura posted:AfO rejected stealing Jeanist's Quirk because it'd take too long for Shigaraki to master. Like, he literally said that outright. Yeah, if anything AfO's entire gimmick is masterful use of quirks - see him deliberately queueing up a specific mixtape of quirks to allow him to out-punch All Might in order to beat him ironically. He would absolutely take the time to learn how to get the most out of Jeanist's quirk, but at the point where he ran into Jeanist he wasn't collecting quirks for himself, he was doing it for Shigaraki, who is much less patient.
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Kanos posted:Yeah, if anything AfO's entire gimmick is masterful use of quirks - see him deliberately queueing up a specific mixtape of quirks to allow him to out-punch All Might in order to beat him ironically. He would absolutely take the time to learn how to get the most out of Jeanist's quirk, but at the point where he ran into Jeanist he wasn't collecting quirks for himself, he was doing it for Shigaraki, who is much less patient. And even all those quirks were just a fake out to goad All Might into a punch off so he could hit him with Impact Reversal.
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christmas boots posted:TBF I also don't remember his to charge up kinetic energy and release it in a huge burst Miles Morales has that exact ability in the new Spider-Man game.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Miles Morales has that exact ability in the new Spider-Man game. It's just electricity, not kinetic energy.
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Kanos posted:Yeah, if anything AfO's entire gimmick is masterful use of quirks - see him deliberately queueing up a specific mixtape of quirks to allow him to out-punch All Might in order to beat him ironically. He would absolutely take the time to learn how to get the most out of Jeanist's quirk, but at the point where he ran into Jeanist he wasn't collecting quirks for himself, he was doing it for Shigaraki, who is much less patient. And in the end, he seems to be bodyjacking Shiggy anyway, so he could've just stolen the Quirk and saved himself a hero to fight later down the line. 
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:And in the end, he seems to be bodyjacking Shiggy anyway, so he could've just stolen the Quirk and saved himself a hero to fight later down the line. I'm assuming that he actually did intend to allow Shigaraki to work on his own for a while before circumstances intervened and forced him to assume direct control to save his entire plan from being destroyed.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah the story and characters work way better when all of Koichi's power ups are just kind of logical applications of his powers or like "He just never thought to try that before he got desperate" Dunno the whole "he's learning to do X unconsciously!" bit is getting a bit long on the tooth. The perception and reaction bits in particular. I know that's a question the story itself is posing but it still feels beyond what he should be able to do.
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https://w27.readheroacademia.com/manga/boku-no-hero-academia-chapter-321/
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Sugarman might make it out of this okay but Mineta got hosed up
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Oh hey, it was Iida, wouldn't have called that
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Another very good chapter, but also that Mecha-Might picture before the chapter rules.
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Rhonne posted:Another very good chapter, but also that Mecha-Might picture before the chapter rules. get in the loving robot
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So one thing that the translation left out is that in the one panel, You’re Next is engraved on Deku’s arm
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When in doubt, apply more All Might Or is this gonna be a Doom Eternal or Star Wars situation where yes, there's a 400-foot tall robot, or a fleet of Star Destroyers, but focusing on the tiny ships and single people is more engaging to the audience because nobody wants to see biggatons blowing the crap out of each other with giant lasers in gorgeous detail, right
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TheKingofSprings posted:So one thing that the translation left out is that in the one panel, You’re Next is engraved on Deku’s arm Oh God Deku 
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TheKingofSprings posted:So one thing that the translation left out is that in the one panel, You’re Next is engraved on Deku’s arm Where is this? I've scoured and can't find it
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Nonexistence posted:Where is this? I've scoured and can't find it It's the panel where he says "you guys...can't keep up". It's not just his arm but his head too has "you're next" over it.
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Vinylshadow posted:When in doubt, apply more All Might ?
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Larryb posted:Still no MVA in the anime next week (though based on the preview I don’t remember if the next episode is from the manga or if it’s just another filler) We're in Aizawa backstory territory, so I'm starting to doubt we're getting MVA this season
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Vinylshadow posted:We're in Aizawa backstory territory, so I'm starting to doubt we're getting MVA this season It shouldn’t take that long to adapt (they could probably do it all in the last 4-5 episodes of the season) but we’ll see. Characters exclusive to that arc do appear in the current OP though.
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Larryb posted:Still no MVA in the anime next week (though based on the preview I don’t remember if the next episode is from the manga or if it’s just another filler) No anime at all next week, next ep is delayed. Yay. Aizawa time is only 2 and a half chapters, they should be able to get through it in a single episode. Which of course means it'll be two. Another month until MVA. 
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Nephthys posted:No anime at all next week, next ep is delayed. Yay. Oh right, there’s another Olympics related break this Friday (possibly Saturday as well). Like I said though, there’s already a couple MVA nods in the current OP so it is still happening, just probably not until the very end of the season (and they better bring their A game to this to make up for the delay)
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there's no MVA in this season's MHA because obviously when this season ends the next week is the premiere of the 1-cour "series", My Villain Acadamia
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Larryb posted:Still no MVA in the anime next week (though based on the preview I don’t remember if the next episode is from the manga or if it’s just another filler) I suspect they’re going to cut quite a bit of it now, because the way they’ve organised it there is simply no time to have it all done in the remaining episodes. What was once gonna be the highlight of the season is starting to look super concerning.
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Asuron posted:I suspect they’re going to cut quite a bit of it now, because the way they’ve organised it there is simply no time to have it all done in the remaining episodes. They could do what the above poster suggested and air it as a separate miniseries after Season 5 is over but somehow I doubt that. I am curious how the anime is going to handle some of the darker aspects of that particular arc though. It would also be nice if they started up a Vigilantes anime that aired in between MHA seasons. But the problem is that that series might be a bit too violent/risqué to air in the same timeslot (especially early on). In fact given that next time we're going into Aizawa's backstory a bit, after this season would be the perfect time to start one. Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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Nephthys posted:Aizawa time is only 2 and a half chapters, they should be able to get through it in a single episode. Which of course means it'll be two. Another month until MVA. It could definitely be two episodes if they include stuff we only saw in Vigilantes. We don't learn much at all about Shirakumo from the main series.
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I really don't see the Aizawa flashback and Kurogiri reveal taking two episodes. Pace has been something of an issue this season but seeing as how some of the VAs already talked about how they recorded for MVA... MVA is happening lol
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