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SCheeseman posted:Deus Ex Invisible War is a textbook example of where the developers did exactly as you suggest, a drawback to that approach is it can strip a game of much of it's personality, mostly as it's nebulous what "improving the gameplay experience" even means. Of course the best advice in the world isn't going to help if you're an idiot, though seems like the worst possible game to apply that to given the whole deal with Deus Ex is that it's a game people love because it's more than the sum of its (very janky) parts.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Of course the best advice in the world isn't going to help if you're an idiot, though seems like the worst possible game to apply that to given the whole deal with Deus Ex is that it's a game people love because it's more than the sum of its (very janky) parts. It's a bad example because it perfectly represents the point I was making that stripping games down to their barest isn't always the best approach to game design? What?
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Invisible War is better than Deus Ex Proof: 1) Games I finish multiple times are superior to ones I only finish once 2) I beat Invisible War multiple times but beat Deus Ex once Q.E.D.
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SCheeseman posted:Deus Ex Invisible War is a textbook example of where the developers did exactly as you suggest, a drawback to that approach is it can strip a game of much of it's personality, mostly as it's nebulous what "improving the gameplay experience" even means. No. They hosed up. Also you're just pulling this out of your rear end. They were trying to bring DX to consoles back when games were trying to figure out how to control FPS games in the first place. Not trying to cut down the fat. I mean look at DX: HR and MD. That's the successful attempt.
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Vic posted:I mean look at DX: HR and MD. That's the successful attempt. 
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Human Revolution was a pretty good one of those
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Barudak posted:Invisible War is better than Deus Ex Yet another reason tic tac toe is the greatest game of all time
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You forgot this fuckery. No idea how it scored that high. 
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Jul 30, 2021 15:36
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Video game journalism has been a joke more or less since the start.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Video game journalism has been a joke more or less since the start. i tried to think of the earliest video game journalism and my mind went to Nintendo Power, which was literally just advertisements made by nintendo
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Jul 30, 2021 15:45
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The lesson is that the user score is usually more trustworthy than the critic score.
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Jul 30, 2021 16:36
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Meme Poker Party posted:The lesson is that the user score is usually more trustworthy than the critic score. Users aren't risking their jobs and/or future free copies by being honest.
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Meme Poker Party posted:The lesson is that the user score is usually more trustworthy than the critic score. i never play a game unless there is at least a 20 page thread here on SA. thats all the endorsement i need
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Jul 30, 2021 16:42
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User scores usually reflect more than just the game at face value. Mankind Divided had singleplayer microtransactions and a companion app. lol.
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Jul 30, 2021 16:47
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Reviewers sell out for ... free steam keys?
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Deus Ex Go is probably my favorite to play of the Deus Ex games, but I only beat it once ergo it is sadly only as good as the original Deus Ex. Mankind Divided is the worst because I got to the final mission and just could not give a gently caress to finish it. Yes, I played and beat Project Snowblind. I had gametap
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Rutibex posted:i tried to think of the earliest video game journalism and my mind went to Nintendo Power, which was literally just advertisements made by nintendo iirc egm was mostly just the writers making rude jokes about sex and drugs, and saying important things like "the best part about this game is the art and the sound design, both of which are great! but the rest of his game sucks rear end i wouldn't pay ten dollars for it"
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Rutibex posted:i tried to think of the earliest video game journalism and my mind went to Nintendo Power, which was literally just advertisements made by nintendo For me it's the Dutch gaming magazine Power Unlimited, which was ran like a weed-beer fuelled gonzo magazine during the 90's-00's. They used to poo poo pretty hard on developers for pumping out carbon copy sequels and their negative reviews would sometimes just call the game "A loving piece of poo poo" but in Dutch. It was good times.
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I found this thing Derek Smart reposted interesting even if it is pretty pro-Garmer Gert. https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/1420857777614987266?s=20
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i only just twigged that Gamergate is a play on Watergate
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Lodin posted:I found this thing Derek Smart reposted interesting even if it is pretty pro-Garmer Gert. I'm gonna have to give a to a "GamerGate actually really was about ethics in game journalism" in 2021
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its weird to watch a Jim Sterling video where he's actually outraged rather than just faking outrage
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Fur20 posted:iirc egm was mostly just the writers making rude jokes about sex and drugs, and saying important things like "the best part about this game is the art and the sound design, both of which are great! but the rest of his game sucks rear end i wouldn't pay ten dollars for it" Shawn Elliot ended up designing the best levels in Prey years after that magazine folded, which surprised me.
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most people on the games forum have no sense of humour and im starting to think they are all 40 year old and miserable
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JollyBoyJohn posted:most people on the games forum have no sense of humour and im starting to think they are all 40 year old and miserable Can you imagine having fun with video games???
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Lodin posted:I found this thing Derek Smart reposted interesting even if it is pretty pro-Garmer Gert. Even if he wasn't directing people to an article that's clearly lovely, you do not have to hand it to Derek Smart.
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Meme Poker Party posted:Can you imagine having fun with video games??? i wrote out a big effort post to answer this and it made me realise i might have depression
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Jul 30, 2021 21:02
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JollyBoyJohn posted:its weird to watch a Jim Sterling video where he's actually outraged rather than just faking outrage At least in this situation he's fully justified in recycling his "activision bad" take into a video, instead of just tossing it around randomly.
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Archer666 posted:At least in this situation he's fully justified in recycling his "activision bad" take into a video, instead of just tossing it around randomly. yeah i'm not trying to be edgy or anything its just normally Jim Sterling videos sound so over-acted
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JollyBoyJohn posted:i wrote out a big effort post to answer this and it made me realise i might have depression I hope you can get some help, that sucks. Best of luck to you goonfriend.
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when you start taking anything too seriously, even videogames, it isn't fun anymore hope you're doin ok jollyboyjohn, i like your posts even if i almost never agree with them
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:hope you're doin ok jollyboyjohn, i like your posts even if i almost never agree with them This is truly the mark of Powerful Posting.
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:hope you're doin ok jollyboyjohn, i like your posts even if i almost never agree with them thank you WildTurkey, sometimes i like to post things that will make people gasp a bit or say "wtf dude" but its always from a place of attempted humour
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JollyBoyJohn posted:its weird to watch a Jim Sterling video where he's actually outraged rather than just faking outrage I'm sure it wasn't intentional but they/them are their preferred pronouns. https://twitter.com/jimsterling Companies suck poo poo, but you kind of save being emotionally invested for when they go above and beyond, or else you'll be exhausted. Oh yeah company x treats their employees poorly? Whatever. Oh they prey on people with loot boxes? Yep. Oh they caused a woman to kill themselves? What the loving gently caress. Kind of like shootings in America have enough of them at the populace just stops caring. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 30, 2021 |
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JollyBoyJohn posted:most people on the games forum have no sense of humour and im starting to think they are all 40 year old and miserable all the non miserable games posters migrated to gbs, or otherwise just post about their dev projects once a month Random Stranger posted:Even if he wasn't directing people to an article that's clearly lovely, you do not have to hand it to Derek Smart. derek smart wants to stay relevant in his way but i'm not sure he's actually made anything new since he started his (not incorrect) vendetta against star citizen so he's got to find SOMEthing
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JollyBoyJohn posted:i wrote out a big effort post to answer this and it made me realise i might have depression How can one be depressed while pwning noobs?
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