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alexandriao posted:PHUO: I agree with the above but, I also don't think paying more than a cursor glance at large-scale politics is worth it. It’s a coping mechanism. It’s a poor coping mechanism, but it’s a coping mechanism nonetheless. People want to know, to feel a little bit more in control. Unfortunately the things they learn make them feel less in control.
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alexandriao posted:What I don't understand is people who watch speeches by Trump or Boris or Farage just to get angry at them. My mother does this and I have to wonder, why? It has an almost identical psychological effect as cutting. It's literally self-harm, but a much more socially acceptable one.
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I don't care how toothless they are, any country with a monarch in 2021 is laughable.
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Jul 31, 2021 06:43
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Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt isn't that great. It's fine, I guess. It's a corny song to begin with, but the original stomps the cover version and I'm not even like, a die hard Nine Inch Nails fan or anything. The way people talk about that song feels masturbatory, like it's the most amazing thing that this senior citizen is clearing his throat phlegm over a NIN song. Whatever.
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Jul 31, 2021 09:11
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Also that album feels more like Rick Ruben jerking himself off than a Johhny Cash album tbh. 100% Rick Ruben just made him do that cover and he had never heard that song in his life until then.
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Jul 31, 2021 09:18
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We can't get rid of our monarchs, we unfortunately have too many elderly fans of them. They like to read news about what the princess did recently or what the king thinks of X I wouldn't mind the royal house here in Sweden except they are obviously living extremely privileged lives for no reason at all. Cut their allowance, it makes no sense to just hand them a ton of cash. Give them a normal decent salary and have them be Ambassadors who work 9-5 I'm hoping in another 20 years when the elderly have all perished and there's no one left to give a poo poo that we start getting rid of the royals altogether here Zzulu has a new favorite as of 09:23 on Jul 31, 2021 |
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Jul 31, 2021 09:19
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Fashionable Jorts posted:It has an almost identical psychological effect as cutting. It's literally self-harm, but a much more socially acceptable one. I harp on this constantly, especially since doomscrolling has become more and more common.
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Jul 31, 2021 10:02
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I liked watching Trump do stuff because it's funny to watch an idiot do things. the POTUS was walking around with toilet paper on his shoe while wearing diapers and his wife was slapping his hand away and he was getting attacked by bald eagles. One of the dumbest people alive was one of the most powerful people on earth for 4 years. How can you not watch? It was amazing.
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Jul 31, 2021 10:15
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mind the walrus posted:And on the other hand you get a whole bunch of weirdo goons giving each other handjobs about how little they care. Like we get it, weaponized apathy is a really easy way to feel superior without having to do or risk anything, but the 90s was thirty years ago, the whole Gen X "too good to care" schitck looks tired and immature. I disagree with this. If anything, the people whose main hobby is to track artists' and celebrities' personal and political opinions are the ones being being self-aggrandizing.
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mind the walrus posted:And on the other hand you get a whole bunch of weirdo goons giving each other handjobs about how little they care. Like we get it, weaponized apathy is a really easy way to feel superior without having to do or risk anything, but the 90s was thirty years ago, the whole Gen X "too good to care" schitck looks tired and immature. "Caring" in this context is largely performative. Speaking of immature, people can care about lots of stuff and also think it is the most naive, obnoxious nonsense to assign meaning to your media consumption then go puff out your chest on the internet about it.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:20
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"Death of the author" is a completely different concept than separating artist from art.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:30
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people can do good and bad things, often at the same time
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Henchman of Santa posted:"Death of the author" is a completely different concept than separating artist from art. Most of this forum is mid-30 year olds posting like angry teenagers. Expecting us to know what phrases mean is asking a bit too much.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:15
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We're not getting out of this. Might as well find enjoyment in whatever you can before the power grid fails.
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Henchman of Santa posted:"Death of the author" is a completely different concept than separating artist from art. We were talking about the artists impact on our enjoyment of their work before anyone brought up dota to be fair.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:50
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Gaius Marius posted:We were talking about the artists impact on our enjoyment of their work before anyone brought up dota to be fair. I know, it was just a really stupid point and a pet peeve.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:54
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veni veni veni posted:Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt isn't that great. It's fine, I guess. It's a corny song to begin with, but the original stomps the cover version and I'm not even like, a die hard Nine Inch Nails fan or anything. The way people talk about that song feels masturbatory, like it's the most amazing thing that this senior citizen is clearing his throat phlegm over a NIN song. Whatever. No you don’t get it. He changed crown of poo poo to crown of thorns. LIKE JESUS
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Jul 31, 2021 16:05
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I ain't in love with it but I'll take it every day over disturbeds absolute poo poo cover of sounds of silence. Rusty cage cash version is also fine
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Jul 31, 2021 16:06
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I was kind of bewildered by the Johnny Cash revival at the time. I unfortunately grew up in a classic country household so I knew his library, which is the twangiest hodown maudlin kitsch peppered with overt Christian messaging. But the abstract Cash aesthetic that caught on was dark, rebellious punk. I wonder where that came from? Was it marketing, or did the Cash brand evolve that way organically?
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Jul 31, 2021 16:19
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related unpopular opinion, the Charlie Feathers version of Folsom prison blues is better than the Johnny Cash version
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Manager Hoyden posted:I was kind of bewildered by the Johnny Cash revival at the time. I unfortunately grew up in a classic country household so I knew his library, which is the twangiest hodown maudlin kitsch peppered with overt Christian messaging. I always wondered that myself, and I'm pretty sure it was a combination of him having a small bad boy streak and marketing. Every punk fan I know loves Johnny Cash even though he's about as antiestablishment as a church bake sale.
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Jul 31, 2021 16:33
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He flipped the bird that one time.
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Jul 31, 2021 16:36
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Remember, Roy Orbison also had that same kind of "bad boy" image. Back in the day putting on black jeans and a black shirt is all it took to be rebellious.
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Jul 31, 2021 16:39
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I think Folsom Prison Blues/playing a show there is also a big part of it.
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hawowanlawow posted:related unpopular opinion, the Charlie Feathers version of Folsom prison blues is better than the Johnny Cash version
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Jul 31, 2021 16:41
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Great, now I'm listening to Roy Orbison's greatest hits. I hope you're all happy with yourselves. 🎵 I drove all niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, to get to you 🎵
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Robobot posted:I always wondered that myself, and I'm pretty sure it was a combination of him having a small bad boy streak and marketing. Every punk fan I know loves Johnny Cash even though he's about as antiestablishment as a church bake sale. I mean punk is basically a joke so I don't think them falling for cash being a badlad is that surprising.
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Jul 31, 2021 17:15
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Cash got arrested for speed and tried to kill himself. I'm pretty sure he was drunk or high most of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. Just because someone sings a lot of happy or gospel music doesn't mean they're squeaky clean.
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Gaius Marius posted:I mean punk is basically a joke so I don't think them falling for cash being a badlad is that surprising. Very true. All the punk kids I knew growing up, that didn't die from drug overdoses in their early 20's, are now super corporate and spend hundreds of dollars on vinyl copies of all their favorite punk albums. One is a corporate lawyer with a Black Flag chest piece.
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veni veni veni posted:Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt isn't that great. It's fine, I guess. It's a corny song to begin with, but the original stomps the cover version and I'm not even like, a die hard Nine Inch Nails fan or anything. The way people talk about that song feels masturbatory, like it's the most amazing thing that this senior citizen is clearing his throat phlegm over a NIN song. Whatever. The original is better. Because Reznor's performance feels genuine and less like an old grouchy dad who's sad he has to pay child support
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Robobot posted:Remember, Roy Orbison also had that same kind of "bad boy" image. Back in the day being wrapped entirely in cling film is all it took to look rebellious.
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PHUO- rapid fire edition: The search for authenticity is ultimately meaningless. You are never going to experience the same emotion ever again and the hope that you have to attain a "perfect moment" is as stupid as looking to create something entirely without attempt. Nostalgia is a loving prison. Trying to separate art from artist is never going to work, and is often completely stupid. The idea that everything is a shade of gray is as much a coping mechanism as trying to pretend everything is black and white. Sometimes there are things you don't recover from. Sometimes that is okay.
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Jul 31, 2021 18:07
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Ugly In The Morning posted:
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Josef bugman posted:The idea that everything is a shade of gray is as much a coping mechanism as trying to pretend everything is black and white.
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indiscriminately posted:Shades of gray is always a closer model of any real-world problem than black & white. Shades of gray still sucks though because it flattens anything to a single dimension of consideration while every real-world problem is multidimensional or worse. Not really. Most problems are black and whtie. It's simply that to do what is neccesary in those instances would upset a lot of people who've invested time and energy into defending a structure that is pretty much rotten from the inside out because "it's the best we can do". The idea that we must reduce everything to nuance and argumentation is just another way of avoiding interaction with the world where things can change in an instant.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:20
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No not really.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:23
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Gaius Marius posted:No not really. Everyone says stuff like this, but thus far I haven't seen much evidence to prove otherwise. I understand that complexity exists as part of life. But so so often "things are complicated" becomes not an argument to examine, but an argument to stop doing anything. The best way to kill an idea is to set up a committee around it and the search for "nuance" in all things appears to be similar. Sometimes things are just bad or good.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:30
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Josef bugman posted:Nostalgia is a loving prison. What do you mean? I love my wall of funco pops! My life is definitely better because I bought the same Mario game fifteen times now!
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Jul 31, 2021 19:47
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Josef bugman posted:Not really. Most problems are black and whtie. Can you give some examples that aren't "Hitler was in fact bad"-tier?
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It depends. Nostalgia is overused as a marketing tool, but it turns out that I quite enjoy getting more Digimon products
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