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Regarde Aduck posted:They play down gender in order to reduce everything to ‘produces sperm’ and ‘can get pregnant’ Which also means they ignore the very existence of a bunch of cis people, because these stupid TERF fucks care only about reproduction.
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DigitalRaven posted:Which also means they ignore the very existence of a bunch of cis people, because these stupid TERF fucks care only about
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Jul 31, 2021 11:27
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Kit Walker posted:Eh, he is still being dumb. It’s a bad statistic much like when republicans said “corona’s death rate is only 0.001%” because they were comparing the number of deaths vs the total population and not the total infected. Like, yes, the vaccine prevents infections and mitigates the effect of the disease for those who get it anyway, but he’s comparing the number of breakthrough infections vs the total vaccinated population Yeah and in fact the CDC presentation that has everyone talking recommends not downplaying the prevalence of breakthrough infections because it’s backfiring when people see them happen and think thatl the vaccine isn’t working as it was supposed to. 
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Jul 31, 2021 11:29
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It really does come down to hating trans people and working absolutely everything backwards from that. They tend to end up being amazingly sexist, homophobic, and racist in the process, currently their big thing is a conspiracy theory book that claims the trans is a plot by Jewish billionaires.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:11
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teddust posted:Or maybe you could actually read actual news about it instead of spreading unsourced misinformation. Come on now you can’t really believe Cuba invented completely new technology just to gently caress with some diplomats.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:53
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There’s a split in the terf community because the author of the book full of antisemitism said she did not at all copy another antisemitic terfs blog post and they’re beefing now. Suing has been mentioned!
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You’re right. I should have said “claim to”, to make clear that I agree they’re all about hating trans people and using regressive  as a lovely justification.
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Jul 31, 2021 13:27
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I'd still say at their core, chuds and transphobes are all just constantly mad about anyone other than them ~getting something~ they're not getting, and in their hosed up lizard brains, people who transition are trying to get some kind of nebulous advantage that they can't get. That's why they're always trying to complain about men transitioning to women and then ~getting to use a different bathroom~ or ~getting to just switch back and forth as it suits them~. That's why weirdo up there is preoccupied with making sure nobody can "go back" after they transition. They have the emotional processing power of toddlers.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:05
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What the gently caress is wrong with these people. https://twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1421199737676513283
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Terry Pratchett making people self-own from beyond the grave is extremely powerful (in the replies, obviously his daughter turned out alright).endocriminologist posted:There’s a split in the terf community because the author of the book full of antisemitism said she did not at all copy another antisemitic terfs blog post and they’re beefing now. Suing has been mentioned!
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Jul 31, 2021 14:26
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DigitalRaven posted:Which also means they ignore the very existence of a bunch of cis people, because these stupid TERF fucks care only about reproduction. Yeah, I've had to have this exact discussion with a few people. As soon as you start trying to drill down to some biological sex essentialism the whole thing becomes a mess, because evidently reproduction doesn't determine your sex (infertile people), genitals don't determine your sex (intersex people) and even your chromosomes don't necessarily determine your sex (XY fertile women for example). You can take them through the whole process, watching them trying to find some way to define a "man" and "woman" and failing, because most of human biology is a hacked together mess, until, if they're not a TERF, they realise it's a social thing, not a biology one. I teach this stuff to high school students when we do genetics and reproduction. If they are a TERF, they don't come to this realisation, and you tell them they can gently caress right off.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:52
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Tiggum posted:IIRC the argument goes something like "if gender is socially constructed and not biological then you can't be 'transgender' because gender's not real". Perhaps a better term would be "gender sovcit" then because that's basically what they try to do with the government.
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OwlFancier posted:Perhaps a better term would be "gender sovcit" then because that's basically what they try to do with the government. All power to the gender soviets.
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Let the ruling classes tremble at a gender revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their pronouns.
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Californian wildifires also known as a gender criticality incident.
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DigitalRaven posted:Which also means they ignore the very existence of a bunch of cis people, because these stupid TERF fucks care only about reproduction. I don't see what's so crazy about claiming every single cis woman turns into a man when they hit menopause.
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OwlFancier posted:Californian wildifires also known as a gender criticality incident.
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hooman posted:Yeah, I've had to have this exact discussion with a few people. As soon as you start trying to drill down to some biological sex essentialism the whole thing becomes a mess, because evidently reproduction doesn't determine your sex (infertile people), genitals don't determine your sex (intersex people) and even your chromosomes don't necessarily determine your sex (XY fertile women for example). You can take them through the whole process, watching them trying to find some way to define a "man" and "woman" and failing, because most of human biology is a hacked together mess, until, if they're not a TERF, they realise it's a social thing, not a biology one. I teach this stuff to high school students when we do genetics and reproduction. Transphobes will either ignore it or counter by saying science is on their side because they are only going to examine it deeply enough to justify what they already believe. When you point out these counter examples they are going to dismiss it as being tiny outliers irrelevant to the discussion.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:32
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:Gender reveal parties literally killed more people than the flu over the past year and a half They've each killed more people in the last ~2 years than antifa has in 25
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Pththya-lyi posted:They've each killed more people in the last ~2 years than antifa has in 25 Antifa has just killed that one guy in Oregon, and the guy who did it was assassinated by the government, right?
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Skwirl posted:Antifa has just killed that one guy in Oregon, and the guy who did it was assassinated by the government, right? that was some weird poo poo we'll never know the full details of. You don't get a fed death squad for whacking a random chud.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:41
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You get a fed death squad for acting out of station. The victim isn’t important
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Jul 31, 2021 15:43
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Skwirl posted:Antifa has just killed that one guy in Oregon, and the guy who did it was assassinated by the government, right? There was this little thing called WWII, and also some orgs in the later decades that did some needful, but yeah.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:45
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gbut posted:There was this little thing called WWII, and also some orgs in the later decades that did some needful, but yeah. I meant in context of "the last 25 years"
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Regarde Aduck posted:that was some weird poo poo we'll never know the full details of. You don't get a fed death squad for whacking a random chud. Nah, you absolutely get a fed death squad for that poo poo if the guy you kill was a supporter of President Trump and Trump is still the president.
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Yeah, like the fed dead squad needs anything beyond a green-ish light.
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Regarde Aduck posted:that was some weird poo poo we'll never know the full details of. You don't get a fed death squad for whacking a random chud. If you think the guy who was taken out by the fed death squad was a chud, you may want to double check your definition of chud
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grittyreboot posted:I don't know anything about Meijer but in this instance at least he isn't the idiot He's a Republican, so he still sucks, but it's the old-school pro-buisiness evil and not the new "overt fascism" evil. Also I won't be surprised if he gets primaried because the Michigan GOP has been trying to purge anyone who isn't a ride-or-die conspiracy cultist.
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I think that is to be parsed as the target of the fed death squad does not become the target of the fed death squad, as a consequence of having whacked a random chud.
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RFC2324 posted:If you think the guy who was taken out by the fed death squad was a chud, you may want to double check your definition of chud
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Acute Grill posted:He's a Republican, so he still sucks, but it's the old-school pro-buisiness evil and not the new "overt fascism" evil. Here's a secret: they're the same thing.
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Yeah, a guy killed a CHUD because the CHUD threatened his friend with a knife, then a fed death squad killed the guy who was trying to protect his friend. I have no idea on the veracity of his claim it was because the CHUD threatened his friend with a knife, because he was assassinated by a fed death squad before any sort of facts could be presented to a court of law, so I just assume that's true. If the feds didn't want me to believe that they shouldn't have murdered him before they could prove his claim was false.
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, a guy killed a CHUD because the CHUD threatened his friend with a knife, then a fed death squad killed the guy who was trying to protect his friend. I remember the incident, i misread aduck's post as calling the dude who got merked a chud which is obviously backward.
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hooman posted:and even your chromosomes don't necessarily determine your sex (XY fertile women for example). Wait, is that a thing? I know that XY people with androgen insensitivity develop into women, but I've never heard of any being fertile.
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Viscous Soda posted:Wait, is that a thing? I know that XY people with androgen insensitivity develop into women, but I've never heard of any being fertile. There was apparently at least one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/
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Viscous Soda posted:Wait, is that a thing? I know that XY people with androgen insensitivity develop into women, but I've never heard of any being fertile. I remember reading that 'normally' this situation ends with a dead end vagina, so I am super curious myself
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There are other reasons an apparent cis woman could have XY chromosomes than androgen insensitivity. Off the top of my head, a defective SRY gene on the Y chromosome. Honestly, it's important to realise that we very rarely test people's sex chromosomes unless we already have reason to suspect something is unusual, such as being visibly intersex or fertility problems. There's probably quite a lot of people running around who have no idea their chromosomes don't match their assigned sex. Edit: god, why is "chromosome" one of those words that never looks spelled right to me? RoboRodent has a new favorite as of 17:44 on Jul 31, 2021 |
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Kit Walker posted:There was apparently at least one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/
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RoboRodent posted:There are other reasons an apparent cis woman could have XY chromosomes than androgen insensitivity. Off the top of my head, a defective SRY gene on the Y chromosome. do those 'ancestry' services like 23andme identify any of that stuff? seems like they'd be a pretty good data pool
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