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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

riding backseat to Che on the bike, passing the blunt back and forth as we breeze through the cool Argentine morning air

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Smoking weed with the revolutionary kim il-sung sounds tight.

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

my bony fealty posted:

riding backseat to Che on the bike, passing the blunt back and forth as we breeze through the cool Argentine morning air

ok this is getting too horny

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
can't stop the Giap!

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

gradenko_2000 posted:

can't stop the Giap!

Yankee go home

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


gradenko_2000 posted:

can't stop the Giap!

Uncle Ho - so we are going to have a yankee problem for the foreseeable future, and that means bombers. ideas?

Giap - comrade, I got this

[Ho Chi Minh trail is presented]

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

quote:

The Vietnamese people's war of liberation ended in victory because of the existence of
people's power established during the August Revolution and thereafter constantly
consolidated. This power was the Government of alliance between classes, the
government of the revolutionary classes and above all of the workers and peasants. It was
the dictatorship of people's democracy, the dictatorship of the workers and peasants in
fact, under the leadership of the Party. It devoted its efforts to mobilising and organising
the whole people for the Resistance; it brought the people material advantages not only in
the free zones, but also in the guerrilla bases behind the enemy's back.

The Vietnamese people's war of liberation attained this great victory for the reasons we
have just enumerated, but above all because it was organised and led by the Party of the
working class : the Indochinese Communist Party, now the Viet Nam Workers' Party. In
the light of the principles of Marxism-Leninism, it was this Party which proceeded to
make an analysis of the social situation and of the balance of forces between the enemy
and ourselves in order to determine the fundamental tasks of the people's national
democratic revolution, to establish the plan for the armed struggle and decide on the
guiding principle: long-term resistance and self-reliance. It was the Party which found a
correct solution to the problems arising out of the setting up and leadership of a people's
army, people's power and a national united front. It also inspired in the people and the
army a completely revolutionary spirit which instilled into the whole people the will to
overcome all difficulties, to endure all privations, the spirit of a long resistance, of
resistance to the end. Our Party, under the leadership of President Ho Chi Minh, is the
worthy Party of the working class and the nation. President Ho Chi Minh, leader of the
Party and the nation, is the symbol of this gigantic uprising of the Vietnamese people.
If the Vietnamese people's war of liberation ended in a glorious victory, it is because we
did not fight alone, but with the support of progressive peoples the world over, and more
especially the peoples of the brother countries, with the Soviet Union at the head. The
victory of the Vietnamese people cannot be divided from this support; it cannot be
disassociated from the brilliant successes of the socialist countries and the movement of
national liberation, neither can it be detached from the victories of the Soviet Red Army
during the Second World War, nor from those of the Chinese people during the last few
years. It cannot be isolated from the sympathy and support of progressive peoples
throughout the world, among whom are the French people under the leadership of their
Communist Party, and the peoples of Asia and Africa.

The victory of the Vietnamese people is that of a small and weak nation and possessing
no regular army, which rose up to engage in an armed struggle against the aggression of
an imperialist country with a modern army and benefiting from the support of the
American imperialists. This colonial country has established and maintained a regime of
people's democracy, which will open up to it the path to socialism. That is one of the
great historic events in the national liberation movement and in the proletarian
revolutionary movement, in the new international position born of the Second World
War, in the period of transition from capital-ism to socialism, in the time of the
disintegration of imperialism. The Vietnamese people's war of liberation has contributed
to making obvious this new historic truth: in the present international situation, a weak
people which rises up resolutely to fight for its freedom is sure to triumph over all
enemies and to achieve victory.

:ussr:

Lightningproof
Feb 23, 2011

karl radek got a baby bear drunk on champagne at spaso house so i imagine he’d be fun to get tanked with

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011



:ussr:

also this reminded me of this

quote:

In a 1998 interview, William Westmoreland criticized the battlefield prowess of Giáp. He further stated that "by his own admission, by early 1969, I think, he had lost, what, a half million soldiers? He reported this. Now such a disregard for human life may make a formidable adversary, but it does not make a military genius. An American commander losing men like that would hardly have lasted more than a few weeks."[68]

completely and totally owned, "bubububh charlie didn't fight fair!!!"

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

dead gay comedy forums posted:

:ussr:

also this reminded me of this

completely and totally owned, "bubububh charlie didn't fight fair!!!"
Baha never seen this, what a fuckin loser piece of poo poo lmao

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Harry Villegas would be my go-to

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
I want to introduce Lenin to modern advanced planning systems and show him that communism has been proven more efficient even within capitalism

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I want to play Mao the album “Enema Of The State” by Blink-182 while we do bumps

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


AnimeIsTrash posted:

People like Che, Castro, and Sankara would all be dope to smoke weed with.

Weeds highly illegal in Cuba

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

fart simpson posted:

i love cummunism

Anime Bernie Bro
Feb 4, 2020

FUCK MY ASSHOLE, LOL
i am the cummunist state

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lady Militant posted:

theres things to talk about other than ww2!!!

He's literally one of the greatest socialist heroes to ever live though.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


had a dumb idea :cheers:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy


this book by Helen Yaffe kicks all sorts of rear end. Gorbachev? gently caress YOU DUDE!!!

EDIT:



I got a little misty-eyed at the later passages. That kind of commitment to the socialist project...

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 09:22 on Jul 30, 2021

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
watching the parenti/hitchens debate... hitchens opens with a harry potter reference

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

exmarx posted:

watching the parenti/hitchens debate... hitchens opens with a harry potter reference

i just watched that last week. hitchens looks like a complete moron lol.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

wait until you get to the part where hitchens says actually they did find WMDs but it’s too politically incorrect to say it so the bush administration is pretending they lied about it to not offend the liberals or something

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
who gives a gently caress about offending liberals

they’re good enough at offending themselves

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

fart simpson posted:

wait until you get to the part where hitchens says actually they did find WMDs but it’s too politically incorrect to say it so the bush administration is pretending they lied about it to not offend the liberals or something

what a loving lunatic, I guess that's what happens after brining your brain in ciggies and alcohol for 50 years

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Larry Parrish posted:

He's literally one of the greatest socialist heroes to ever live though.

yah but the wait list to hang out with him is really long.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lady Militant posted:

yah but the wait list to hang out with him is really long.

A fair point. I'd probably get Castro and Debs and Chavez and arguably John Brown first then. Might as well knock out American heroes first.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Can anyone recommend good histories on the Ba'ath and Communist parties in Iraq and Syria? I know a little about CIA plots in the '50s and '60s and the Ramadan coup but nothing else really

MeatwadIsGod has issued a correction as of 13:35 on Jul 30, 2021

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I want to have a drink with (nominal) socialist Kerensky and run through the events of 1917 asking “what the gently caress were you thinking” after every obviously poor decision he made

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


gradenko_2000 posted:

I got a little misty-eyed at the later passages. That kind of commitment to the socialist project...

I think the most fundamental factor so far (and quite a lesson!) was that the development of better conditions has to occur within the specific purview of a socialist victory. That passage validates a lot of what Lenin had against Bukharin (and especially what Stalin had to say later on)

the same thing happened with enough consistence it seems: Cuba, the USSR under the NEP/gorbachev, Deng's China -- if prosperity is achieved and understood as separate from socialist development, it's an error

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
“This is the reasoning of a liberal scholar who repeats the incredibly trite and threadbare argument that experience and reason clearly prove that men arenot equal, yet socialism bases its ideal on equality. Hence, socialism, if you please, is an absurdity which is contrary to experience and reason, and so forth!

Mr. Tugan repeats the old trick of the reactionaries: first to misinterpret socialism by making it out to be an absurdity, and then to triumphantly refute the absurdity! When we say that experience and reason prove that men are not equal, we mean by equality, equality in abilities or similarity in physical strength and mental ability.

It goes without saying that in this respect men are not equal. No sensible person and no socialist forgets this. But this kind of equality has nothing whatever to do with socialism. If Mr. Tugan is quite unable to think, he is at least able to read; were lie to Lake the well-known work of one of the founders of scientific socialism, Frederick Engels, directed against D’uhring, he would find there a special section explaining the absurdity of imagining that economic equality means anything else than the abolition of classes. But when professors set out to refute socialism, one never knows what to wonder at most—their stupidity, their ignorance, or their unscrupulousness.” — V.I. Lenin

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

MLSM posted:

“This is the reasoning of a liberal scholar who repeats the incredibly trite and threadbare argument that experience and reason clearly prove that men arenot equal, yet socialism bases its ideal on equality. Hence, socialism, if you please, is an absurdity which is contrary to experience and reason, and so forth!

Mr. Tugan repeats the old trick of the reactionaries: first to misinterpret socialism by making it out to be an absurdity, and then to triumphantly refute the absurdity! When we say that experience and reason prove that men are not equal, we mean by equality, equality in abilities or similarity in physical strength and mental ability.

It goes without saying that in this respect men are not equal. No sensible person and no socialist forgets this. But this kind of equality has nothing whatever to do with socialism. If Mr. Tugan is quite unable to think, he is at least able to read; were lie to Lake the well-known work of one of the founders of scientific socialism, Frederick Engels, directed against D’uhring, he would find there a special section explaining the absurdity of imagining that economic equality means anything else than the abolition of classes. But when professors set out to refute socialism, one never knows what to wonder at most—their stupidity, their ignorance, or their unscrupulousness.” — V.I. Lenin

Get their rear end Vlad

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

mycomancy posted:

Get their rear end Vlad

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

senpai…

e-dt
Sep 16, 2019

Lady Militant posted:

my new gimmick is loving and kissing all the lovely ugly soviet leaders everyone hates.

support andropov then

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord
Uphold Kosygin Thought

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


Lady Militant posted:

ok this is getting too horny

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Continuing my reading of "We Are Cuba!"



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Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Mr. Lobe posted:

Weeds highly illegal in Cuba

Oh really? The communist nation doesnt think recreational drug use is a good thing? How interesting. Now if youll excuse me i gotta get back to work on adobe illustrator (student subscription) to finish up my brezhnev drinking sizzurp meme for insta

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