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Vichan posted:Might be rose-tinted glasses but I remember this being a huge deal in the old Warriors games. It depends on the game but it can be fairly significant. Morale plays a huge factor in some DW games and completing objectives to give your army huge boosts so they can overwhelm the enemy is a bit of neat design.
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The last non empires game where morale had any impact was maybe DW6. Might even be pushing it, DW5
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I wish WAS had morale, your bases fell so goddamned fast when you weren't there
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https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1421629651705868289 They'll get you on your Wei 
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I hadn't played a Warriors game since DW 8 XL / Samurai Warriors 2, so I don't know if this is new to the series, but uh, don't sleep on spending musuo bars while mounted. It is NOT just a slowdown immune sprint anymore and might be preferable on characters with janky musuo moves.
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It's a small thing, but I'm pleased to see that Kiryu returns to voice Hattori Hanzo
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loving hell, who thought enemy projectile spam with hitstun was a good idea to bring back? I swear I got stunlocked for a good five seconds on Mt. Hiei.
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Aug 1, 2021 04:42
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SW5's mission design definitely suffers for ignoring troops and bases almost entirely, every stage basically boils down to roaming around ganking the nearest officer until you empty the map because there's nothing to capture or defend It's weird too because the new skill system and ability to deploy troops would integrate really well with more complex objectives
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It plays very well but I have had a few cases where I sent my partner out to an objective then switch to him once I am done with what I am doing only to see they are surrounded by soliders as if they were not doing anything. It is weird.
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5-Headed Snake God posted:loving hell, who thought enemy projectile spam with hitstun was a good idea to bring back? I swear I got stunlocked for a good five seconds on Mt. Hiei. you can hit X to i-frame out of hitstun for free at any time
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Aug 1, 2021 05:37
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Unlucky7 posted:It plays very well but I have had a few cases where I sent my partner out to an objective then switch to him once I am done with what I am doing only to see they are surrounded by soliders as if they were not doing anything. It is weird. On the other hand, this is a godsend for completing citadel objectives since you can always have your partner ready to spam their ultimates/musou/troops and fulfill that 3rd objective right away because you know they'll be completely surrounded ready to kill everything the moment you switch
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Morter posted:https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1421629651705868289 My transmission cannot be stopped!
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Mechafunkzilla posted:you can hit X to i-frame out of hitstun for free at any time Oh yes, I did that. I almost immediately got hit again because of the unending barrage of bullets.
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against large groups of riflemen the best choice is to press the musou button if you're getting hitlocked; ultimate skills if you're actually close enough although those can't get you out of hitstun. Or play somebody who uses great spears as they get enough super armor to go through rifle bullets. Picked up one of the rare weapons last night and they just seem bad, they're fixed slots and levels so they're probably just worse than a 8 slot silver filled with the good skills.
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That's been a trend with more recent Musou games in general that allow customizable weapons, where the unique weapons aren't as good as whatever you cobbled together, other than maybe having higher base atk power.
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My only real gripe with SW5 so far is that it's very strange that Hideyoshi and Ieyasu don't get timeskip outfits. Well, and that I don't like Hideyoshi as he's typically characterized in these games.
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CaptainRat posted:My only real gripe with SW5 so far is that it's very strange that Hideyoshi and Ieyasu don't get timeskip outfits. Well, and that I don't like Hideyoshi as he's typically characterized in these games. I imagine they may want to save that sort of thing for a sequel focusing on either of them, assuming the game performs well enough.
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wielder posted:I imagine they may want to save that sort of thing for a sequel focusing on either of them, assuming the game performs well enough. Oh I get why they did it, it just plays very weird when you have near-Honnoji scenes where their retainers talk about how they could possibly unify the land and meanwhile they just look like the same young dipshits they have all game. (Also I doubt we're getting a Hideyoshi game unless Omega Force gets extremely enthusiastic about Korean warcrimes.)
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CaptainRat posted:(Also I doubt we're getting a Hideyoshi game unless Omega Force gets extremely enthusiastic about Korean warcrimes.) I mean, there's Nioh 2..
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They've done Toyotomi-focused campaigns before. If anything, 5 is the first Oda-focused game in a long while because the last few games generally focused during Hideyoshi and Tokugawa's reign, since Oda's faction would always die off near the beginning, and the Sanada's story usually revolves around the Toyotomi and Tokugawa campaigns. They've just always avoided the Korea campaigns for obvious reasons.
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I was really hoping that Ieyasu would transition from his SW5 design right into his previous design sometime between stages, with no explanation, but alas. My main complaint is some of the secondary stages not unlocking until further on in the story despite the events within them being openly discussed in the plot. Made things kinda confusing just to try and hide that Sandayu was a baddie, something that was already completely obvious. Meanwhile, I'm just going 'wait, Sena died? How come. Wait, when did we burn down Iga village??'
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Well-known Musou lover Jim Sterling does not like SW5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbQswxwoHWE
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Aug 5, 2021 02:24
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If I don't mind characters having similar move sets, is this game worth getting now? Or should I wait until it's dirt cheap?
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MonsieurChoc posted:If I don't mind characters having similar move sets, is this game worth getting now? Or should I wait until it's dirt cheap? Wait for the edition that comes with all the DLC at the very least.
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The dlc won't be adding any new weaponsets/characters though, it'll just be extra stages, horses, and more weapon skins for the existing weapons.
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MonsieurChoc posted:If I don't mind characters having similar move sets, is this game worth getting now? Or should I wait until it's dirt cheap? I'm still only on chapter 2 but it seems as good as any other musou game to me so far, I can't imagine any problems are coming my way at this point that wouldn't have already turned me off of the series by now
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I think it's pretty decent, that said Koei Tecmo doesn't often have sales so you might be waiting awhile. All the DLC is probably skippable, think it's a few bonus scenarios, rare weapons, and some cosmetic stuff. RoyalScion fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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It feels like another really meh Warriors game in an era of meh Warriors games- everything post DW9/WO4 has just kinda been mushy gruel with some mediocre/bad stage design propped up by fun movesets, or actively bad messes without many redeeming qualities. Samurai Warriors 5 isn't bad- it's maybe the best 'gruel' game yet- but I'm not feeling it. It's probably fine if you need a new Warriors game right now, but it's also 'fine' in the same way Pirate Warriors 4 or Age of Calamity are 'fine'- if there's another, older Warriors game in your backlog still I'd just go play it instead.
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It scratched an itch I had pretty badly, having not played a Warriors since DW 8 XL, but once story mode was completed once it feels mostly done. Unique weapons both seem fairly bad considering how easy it is to craft super strong ones yourself, and having a pretty dull way to get them (I get that adding more "objectives" in an objective focused Warriors game would feel redundant, but full S ranking arbitrary stages with certain characters isn't particularly interesting), citadel mode is really, really repetitive after a short while. The stables building seems entirely pointless since you get special free horses that would require a shitton of effort to improve on for beating all musuo/citadel stages , and with a few notable exceptions the EX-moves often don't feel like they differentiate characters all that much. Also why the hell do you not get relationship points between characters in musuo mode, it would still be a pretty big grind to get all scenes even if those stages counted towards it, not really excited to replay an easy stage 2-3 times per pairing over and over again. I did like the story mode while it lasted and got a good laugh in the end-game where the Imagawa alternative story is Oda losing because Ieyasu couldn't help gush about how cool he is and made Yoshimoto play it out slightly cautiously
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Yeah I'm waiting on a price drop for this one. The demo was decent but not enough to make this a $60 purchase, and it doesn't sound like there's much to Citadel mode once the main story is done. Persona Strikers was fun, but I couldn't imagine playing it if you hadn't beaten Persona 5.
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Citadel mode is shockingly bad and tedious.
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One day they'll put Castle Town from 3 Empires back in a game, I mean other than a Nobunaga's Ambition spinoff that no one played but me.
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Vice Zoomler Aestro posted:Persona Strikers was fun, but I couldn't imagine playing it if you hadn't beaten Persona 5. I never even played P5 and Strikers owns and I did absolutely everything in it, I loved it.
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CaptainRat posted:My only real gripe with SW5 so far is that it's very strange that Hideyoshi and Ieyasu don't get timeskip outfits. Well, and that I don't like Hideyoshi as he's typically characterized in these games. "I just want to make a world where everyone can smile and laugh!" *invades korea*
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Aug 7, 2021 01:47
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Give me another Sengoku Basara game, those were tons of fun.
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Uhhlive posted:Give me another Sengoku Basara game, those were tons of fun. gently caress yeah
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5-Headed Snake God posted:Well-known Musou lover Jim Sterling does not like SW5. Sterling sounds tired of Warriors games in general, doesn't really talk too much about this particular one other than the moveset issue (and the current DLC doesn't make you pay for others, as far as I know, so that part is inaccurate).
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wielder posted:Sterling sounds tired of Warriors games in general, doesn't really talk too much about this particular one other than the moveset issue (and the current DLC doesn't make you pay for others, as far as I know, so that part is inaccurate). What? Sterling is bitching about something he haven't actually researched? Who could've imagined.
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Jack Trades posted:What? Sterling is bitching about something he haven't actually researched? Who could've imagined. Not to take away from your point but Sterling’s pronouns are They/Them
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Been playing DW8XLCE on my ps5 after not touching the mainline series outside of HW since vanilla DW8 on ps3 and god drat does nothing quite scratch that "I want lots of Stuff to Unlock" itch like that game does. Been thinking about playing SW at some point, but I'd like the closest experience to what DW8 offers in terms of scope and I heard SW5 is mostly early sengoku/nobunaga stuff. Would SW4 be more my jam? I'm also a loser who cares about ~lore and continuity~ so I haven't played any of the orochi games since I think the first 3 directly follow eachother plotwise? I could have misread that though.
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