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deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Seeing him walk up and down it, it's a lot less rickety than I thought it would be. I was expecting it to wobble like something from a fun house.

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Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009

Smellrose
it would only be solid like that if every step was cut exactly the same, that's why its engineer porn

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

absence of a handrail aside there's nothing inherently unsafe or flimsy about that design, but judging by the way the steps flex as he goes up it that whole thing's made of MDF

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Aug 3, 2021

captainblastum
Dec 1, 2004

I mean the stair stringer is upside down. That'd give me some pause.

captainblastum fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 3, 2021

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

absence of a handrail aside there's nothing inherently unsafe or flimsy about that design, but otoh look at the way the steps flex as he goes up it. that thar's MDF

The attachment of the railings is extremely insecure, as it appears to rely on screws taking sheer force from the hinges. I think if you looked at it after 1 year it would be in significantly worse shape.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Ain't gonna lie, this looks like a pretty awesome job to me. He's probably making bank every time that cart derails.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


I am gonna ignore the questions of structural integrity & fall protection, reserving my lols for when he drops it on his face because who needs handles

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Looks like a fun job being up on the power lines until he explains sometimes he’s up there on live lines and in freezing rear end cold.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

LanceHunter posted:

The attachment of the railings is extremely insecure, as it appears to rely on screws taking sheer force from the hinges. I think if you looked at it after 1 year it would be in significantly worse shape.

Someone posted the build video where he tore down and rebuilt the whole thing with thicker wood but the hinge design is still the same and an obvious failure point.
At least use some through bolts or something.

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Watching that video made me roll my eyes so hard. He got super pissed people said he needed a handrail, specifically said that he made the riser upside-down because it looked better while ignoring anything about its efficacy, and continued to use screws with the justification that they're super tough and broke several of his drill bits.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB1i2laqdjI

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Cojawfee posted:

He's still tied to the line isn't he? I don't see how him doing that is any more dangerous than anything else he's doing.

It's this:

Gromit posted:

I think you missed "Envy people with no fear of heights like that."

To some of us it's terrifying whether you're tied off or not.

Just getting me into that cart would have my heart racing to the point I nearly faint. The height and wind and everything else would have me curled up in the bottom of the bucket, whimpering as I gripped something hard enough to cut off the flow of blood to my fingers.

I work in an Amazon warehouse and sometimes I have to do a walk along a catwalk to check for loose boxes that fell off the conveyor belt and toss them back on. It's a perfectly solid catwalk that barely even vibrates or moves but the fact that the floor of the thing is a mesh (albeit a thick one) and the catwalk extends off the edge of the floor over a two-floor drop down to shipdock is enough to send my heartrate through the roof.

Harry_Potato
May 21, 2021

Alkydere posted:

It's this:

Just getting me into that cart would have my heart racing to the point I nearly faint. The height and wind and everything else would have me curled up in the bottom of the bucket, whimpering as I gripped something hard enough to cut off the flow of blood to my fingers.

I work in an Amazon warehouse and sometimes I have to do a walk along a catwalk to check for loose boxes that fell off the conveyor belt and toss them back on. It's a perfectly solid catwalk that barely even vibrates or moves but the fact that the floor of the thing is a mesh (albeit a thick one) and the catwalk extends off the edge of the floor over a two-floor drop down to shipdock is enough to send my heartrate through the roof.

Try a 65' grid above a stage. That was my max height for rigging. The jokers that do arena rigging are truly without fear.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

back when I worked in a warehouse a dude had a heart attack 25' up on an OP and the harness saved his rear end

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

hawowanlawow posted:

back when I worked in a warehouse a dude had a heart attack 25' up on an OP and the harness saved his rear end

Sure didn't do anything for his heart though!

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Kitfox88 posted:

Sure didn't do anything for his heart though!

yeah the meth didn't either

Fat Loser
May 27, 2004

hawowanlawow posted:

yeah the meth didn't either

Well now you're just nit-picking.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I don't have a fear of heights, more like a fear of falling from heights. If there is a railing, I'm fine. When I did tech theater in high school, the catwalk was no big deal to me because there was a railing. But I can't get anywhere near an edge of a cliff or a roof, it freaks me out.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

I have no fear getting in a small plane and climbing to 3000 feet and opening the window and hanging my arm out, but standing on the edge of a fifth floor balcony makes me nervous and I'm always tightly gripping the railings.

Idk what's up with that.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/cwxXzkX.gifv

Ventral EggSac
Dec 3, 2019


Lil mini version of the thread title image

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Sagebrush posted:

I have no fear getting in a small plane and climbing to 3000 feet and opening the window and hanging my arm out, but standing on the edge of a fifth floor balcony makes me nervous and I'm always tightly gripping the railings.

Idk what's up with that.

At that sort of height, the ground is more of an abstract thing to me; it feels like more of an immediately danger when it's close-ish. I feel the same way. I've been up in a tow plane taking pictures of a glider, and that was perfectly fine, but I get nervous sticking my head out of a 6th floor window to check what's happening down on the sidewalk.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I think part of it is an awareness of the building extending up from the ground to your feet. Which would mean it's really a fear of being on top of things rather than just height.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
If you grew up climbing high up into trees I think you get rid of the fear of the distance and start to fear the lack of having something to control yourself with. That's why that cart ride on power lines doesn't freak me out. It would absolutely suuuuck getting on top and righting the ship after derailing, but you've got so many safety mechanisms that it's just another job.

I'm probably more likely to get flattened by some rear end in a top hat in a forklift going too fast around a blind corner than that guy is to fall to his death.

Also: was anyone else surprised that he doesn't have a safety line on all of his tools? I'd totally drop my ratchet while doing the last bolt.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Harry_Potato posted:

Try a 65' grid above a stage. That was my max height for rigging. The jokers that do arena rigging are truly without fear.

I've had to work on rickety catwalks over bubbling vats of acid. The whole thing was one OSHA incident away from being the origin of a Batman villain.

Punkinhead
Apr 2, 2015

Sagebrush posted:

I have no fear getting in a small plane and climbing to 3000 feet and opening the window and hanging my arm out, but standing on the edge of a fifth floor balcony makes me nervous and I'm always tightly gripping the railings.

Idk what's up with that.

Being in a plane or helicopter doesn't phase me but looking up at a really tall building will make me weak in the knees I have no idea what the hell that's about. Also being in a room with an extremely tall ceiling like a hangar or a stadium.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!

Glacial erratic's don't gently caress about.

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth
Hey are there any CAD operators in here that can tell me is CAD certification is a scam? Is there an official governing body that deals with that or is it a per-school gatekeeping kind of thing?

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

DiHK posted:

Hey are there any CAD operators in here that can tell me is CAD certification is a scam? Is there an official governing body that deals with that or is it a per-school gatekeeping kind of thing?

CAD is a pretty broad term. So nothing legit would cert at the specific term. It looks like Autodesk has a bunch of certs for their specific programs. Could you maybe share the cert program you are looking at or at least give us more context into what kind of CAD you want to be cert'd in?

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Only person I know that got a CAD job was hired out of high school because we had used it in our classes. I had looked into jobs that required CAD in college and the consensus I picked up was donate your time to a company that wanted free labor to get good experience/referral.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
When did they start calling then CAD operators?

All software certification is something of a scam but exist to gatekeep resumes. So if you don't have an in somewhere and don't have an impressive resume it'll help your resume not get thrown out by HR. That's it, that's the entire reason they exist.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

zedprime posted:

When did they start calling then CAD operators?

All software certification is something of a scam but exist to gatekeep resumes. So if you don't have an in somewhere and don't have an impressive resume it'll help your resume not get thrown out by HR. That's it, that's the entire reason they exist.

Yea I had a lol when I put CAD operator into google cause i thought it was just OP's slang term. Lo and behold that's what its called now? RIP drafters.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
CAD? More like CD nuts.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

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deoju posted:

Seeing him walk up and down it, it's a lot less rickety than I thought it would be. I was expecting it to wobble like something from a fun house.

Give it a week of use and the hinge screws will be pulling out of the steps for sure.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Yea I had a lol when I put CAD operator into google cause i thought it was just OP's slang term. Lo and behold that's what its called now? RIP drafters.

for over ten years I have taught classes in Rhino, SolidWorks, Fusion 360 and various CAM and automated manufacturing topics and I have never used the term "CAD operator." lol. the closest term that I know in common use is calling a junior draftsman a "CAD monkey."

to answer the original question: there are certifications for specific pieces of software, like the CSWP program or whatever Autodesk has. These are run by the company that makes the software and they're nice to have on your resume but not even remotely required to get a job as a CAD monkey. I have not heard of any industry-wide certification or accreditation program of any note.

choose the field you want to work in, find out what software is used there -- learning AutoCAD will not help you at all if you're planning to work in an industry that's all SolidWorks -- and get the certification in that specific software if you're really concerned about it.


e, because this is a pet peeve of mine: CAD is a broad term that means "computer-aided drafting" or more recently "computer-aided design." lots of people use it as slang for AutoCAD, one specific piece of CAD software (I do not, but people do). be VERY SURE what you're talking about here because AutoCAD is an ancient, archaic, legacy program that few modern industries still use. I would never recommend that someone pursue an AutoCAD certification in 2021 unless they had a specific job in mind at a specific firm that still uses AutoCAD for compatibility with plans first drafted in 1988 or whatever.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Aug 3, 2021

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


he will learn a painful but ultimately harmless lesson.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Yea I had a lol when I put CAD operator into google cause i thought it was just OP's slang term. Lo and behold that's what its called now? RIP drafters.

Is this like how all carpenters, welders, etc. are now "makers"?

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Yea I had a lol when I put CAD operator into google cause i thought it was just OP's slang term. Lo and behold that's what its called now? RIP drafters.

How do pencil work? "Drafter" implies physical drawing, get with the times grandpa.


SpaceCadetBob posted:

CAD is a pretty broad term. So nothing legit would cert at the specific term.

Problem is I'm coming at it broadly and just wanted to confirm the following suspicion.

zedprime posted:

All software certification is something of a scam but exist to gatekeep resumes. So if you don't have an in somewhere and don't have an impressive resume it'll help your resume not get thrown out by HR. That's it, that's the entire reason they exist.

I have an interview at a place in a bit and getting 'an in' while I'm still diddiling around with a local Community College is what I'm aiming at. I wanted to make sure that there weren't some specific doublespeak I should be able to throw out.

I couldn't find an engineering/drafting related thread, just the civil engineering one. Am I missing it?


E:

Sagebrush posted:

e, because this is a pet peeve of mine: CAD is a broad term that means "computer-aided drafting" or more recently "computer-aided design." lots of people use it as slang for AutoCAD, one specific piece of CAD software (I do not, but people do). be VERY SURE what you're talking about here because AutoCAD is an ancient, archaic, legacy program that few modern industries still use. I would never recommend that someone pursue an AutoCAD certification in 2021 unless they had a specific job in mind at a specific firm that still uses AutoCAD for compatibility with plans first drafted in 1988 or whatever.

I think I mean CAD in general; the way the college has its programs set up is that there are certificates that are below the level of a BS. I've been using them as a guide for what courses to take but I'm not married to anything yet. Do you mind if I PM you?

Is microstation still in use?

DiHK fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 3, 2021

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Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Ventral EggSac posted:


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Aren't those flanges mostly decorative?

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