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What should the presidential powers be in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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| UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! |
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3 | 23.08% |
| Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! |
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2 | 15.38% |
| Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. |
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0 | 0% |
| None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. |
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4 | 30.77% |
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Boomer pensioners collect their 3k+ pensions while complaining about the youth not working hard enough. There is no other solution to the kestävyys ongelma.
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Jul 25, 2021 09:28
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doverhog posted:Boomer pensioners collect their 3k+ pensions while complaining about the youth not working hard enough. There is no other solution to the kestävyys ongelma. "It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people."
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Jul 25, 2021 09:32
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What are we to make of this collection of superstars competing for the role of the persu king?
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Jul 26, 2021 21:05
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Spotted a twit thread about that earlier: https://twitter.com/oula_silver/status/1419703091989991425 tldr: Riikka Purra is the designated heir, Ossi Tiihonen is the tinfoil hat favourite. But also there might be fights over other roles. Weeaboo nazi chick is angry she got booted off the municipal election list and is challenging for party secretary
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Jul 27, 2021 00:50
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Ornedan posted:Spotted a twit thread about that earlier: Boring, the usual antivaxers and other basic PS wait wha- quote:KRISTITTY PEREHDY LITTEÄÄSEEN MAAHAN Now we're talking.
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Jul 27, 2021 06:54
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I wouldn't want a flat earther in charge of anything, but it feels like it might be fun to have a single conversation with them. Because you know they would love to explain all about the flatness of the Earth to you.
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Jul 27, 2021 09:52
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Isn't it nice how Timppa the Hutt has finally retired from politics and publicity and we don't have to see his face anym- https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008167205.html quote:PERUSSUOMALAISTEN entinen puheenjohtaja Timo Soini arvioi, että naispuheenjohtajan valinta olisi perussuomalaisilta iso riski, kertoo Uutissuomalainen. Soinin mukaan osa perussuomalaisista miehistä ajattelee varmasti, ettei asiasta taida tulla mitään. 
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Aug 2, 2021 19:39
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https://twitter.com/helsinki/status/1422582123945512970 "Huh, looks like we are heading towards a new corona wave. Anyway kids can go back to school yay!"  At least jab the teachers with the vax, fer crying out loud.
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Aug 3, 2021 17:04
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:"Huh, looks like we are heading towards a new corona wave. Anyway kids can go back to school yay!" It's survival of the fittest made into a relatable class-room exercise! Pikku-Matti oppii paljon paremmin miten maailma toimii kunhan hän näkee Liisan ja Riston tukehtuvan omaan sylkeensä. If I didn't know better, I'd think I just got myself a consulting gig at some Kok think-tank. 
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Aug 3, 2021 17:55
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:
Aren't they already doing that? Delta variant is as tarttuva as vesirokko and everyone is gonna get it. Just get everyone vaxxed, gonna get my 2nd shot in 2 weeks.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:03
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Nuoriso sairastaa koronan korkeintaan flunssana ja jos opettaja ei ole joku 18v sijainen niin sillä on ollut jo tilaisuus ottaa rokotteet. Eikö tässä nyt ole ihan tarpeeksi uhrattu lasten ja nuorten elämästä?
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Aug 3, 2021 18:34
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bloom posted:Nuoriso sairastaa koronan korkeintaan flunssana ja jos opettaja ei ole joku 18v sijainen niin sillä on ollut jo tilaisuus ottaa rokotteet. Eikö tässä nyt ole ihan tarpeeksi uhrattu lasten ja nuorten elämästä? lähteet lainauksille
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Aug 3, 2021 18:35
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bloom posted:Nuoriso sairastaa koronan korkeintaan flunssana ja jos opettaja ei ole joku 18v sijainen niin sillä on ollut jo tilaisuus ottaa rokotteet. Eikö tässä nyt ole ihan tarpeeksi uhrattu lasten ja nuorten elämästä? I mean I feel you. We were promised (or something in that fashion) that this summer would be the final spurt towards freedom. I guess we're still on that way, but pandemics don't follow schedules. That said I'm not exactly enthralled with potentially sending kids to environments where they can contract an easily contractable disease that might have long lasting health effects.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:49
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Paula Vesala and the rest of tapatuhma-ala promised us that it's totally safe to open bars and festivals. If our artists know how to keep drunk festival folk from exchanging bodily fluids with total strangers then maybe they should also be put in charge of education. We're better off right now than during the previous waves, though, because most of the older cohorts are already vaccinated and the young anti-vacc idiots seldom get the worst effects. So it's less likely that our emergency rooms would run out of capacity. Not that there won't be deaths, though. But it is really dangerous to continue with etäopetus especially for kids who have trouble following even contact education. Nenonen fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 18:53
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I mean I think opening poo poo like that up until everyone had 2 shots was dumb, and someone should be held criminally responsible for the Russian football incident. However there comes a time when enough people have 2 shots and then you just go.
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Aug 3, 2021 18:56
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doverhog posted:there comes a time when enough people have 2 shots That's gonna take a goddamn while. Just take a look at our age group eligibility and realize that the whole "everyone has had a chance to get vaccinated" is hilariously not true anywhere in the world, including the US who are hogging all the shots, never loving mind Finland. We just don't have enough vaccine. We're starting the "everyone" shot availability... this month. Then we wait three months. And well, everyone eligible going for their shots at the same time would promptly make us run out of capacity.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:06
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doverhog posted:Aren't they already doing that? Delta variant is as tarttuva as vesirokko and everyone is gonna get it. Just get everyone vaxxed, gonna get my 2nd shot in 2 weeks. No they most definitely are not doing that yet. I got my first shot in June and will gey the second shot in September. I also started teaching classes a week ago, and I am now awaiting my test results, while suffering flu-like symptoms, yet again. They loving should have vaccinated all of us as soon as they could have. Warden fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 19:16
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bloom posted:Nuoriso sairastaa koronan korkeintaan flunssana ja jos opettaja ei ole joku 18v sijainen niin sillä on ollut jo tilaisuus ottaa rokotteet. Eikö tässä nyt ole ihan tarpeeksi uhrattu lasten ja nuorten elämästä? Kuten tossa jo kirjoitin, niin sain ekan piikin kesäkuussa heti kun mahdollisuus avautui ikäisilleni, ja toisen saan syyskuussa, ja oottelen tässä taas testituloksia flunssaisena, ja koitan jotenkin saada kesäkurssit pidettyä etänä. Voin sanoa, että on aika saatanan perseestä
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Aug 3, 2021 19:18
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:That said I'm not exactly enthralled with potentially sending kids to environments where they can contract an easily contractable disease that might have long lasting health effects. Lapset voivat toki saada tartunnan, mutta tartunnalla ja sairastumisella on aika merkittävä ero. Pitkälle covidille en anna kovin paljon arvoa kun kaikki siitä toistaiseksi näkemäni tutkimukset ovat olleet kyselyjä, joissa hyväksytään äärimmäisen laajat oireet eikä tunnuta otettavan huomioon psykosomaattisia vaikutuksia, joita tämä 1,5v jatkunut päivittäinen koronapaniikki on hyvin todennäköisesti aiheuttanut. Se, että nykyisessä ilmapiirissä ihmiset kertovat kärsivänsä uupumuksesta ja masennuksesta ei pitäisi olla yllätys kenellekään. Eivät nämä rajoituksetkaan mitään ilmaisia ole, rahallisessa tai inhimillisessä mielessä. Vai eikö siitä ole mitään haittaa, jos meillä kasvaa sosiaalisesti eristetty sukupolvi joiden opiskelu on koostunut youtuben katselemisesta zoomissa?
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Aug 3, 2021 19:21
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bloom posted:Lapset voivat toki saada tartunnan, mutta tartunnalla ja sairastumisella on aika merkittävä ero. Ooksää tosissas. Onpahan hevonpaskaa. Pitkä covid todnäk on vaan se sama viirustartuntojen jälkitauti jota meillä nyt on näkynyt vuosikymmeniä. Plus hapenpuute. Oireet ainakin sopii. Rokotuksia ei olla vielä saatu kaikille jos et oo 60+ tai reippaasti riskialtis. Kaikilla muilla rokotukset kesken. Nyt se yhteiskunta kunnolla lukkoon toi piikki on helvetin huono uutinen.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:25
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Ihmisillä on sitten kova kiire. Kaikki mahdolliset kissanristiäiset on pidettävä NYT, pari kuukautta ennen kuin jokainen halukas on voinut saada toisen rokoteannoksen joka pudottaa pelkän sairastumisen mahdollisuuden aivan lähes nollaan, vakavasta taudista puhumattakaan. NYT on aika reissata ympäri maata, mitään ei voi lykätä! Lämpimästi tervetuloa, meillä on käsidesiä!
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Aug 3, 2021 19:27
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Fabulous Knight posted:Ihmisillä on sitten kova kiire. Kaikki mahdolliset kissanristiäiset on pidettävä NYT, pari kuukautta ennen kuin jokainen halukas on voinut saada toisen rokoteannoksen joka pudottaa pelkän sairastumisen mahdollisuuden aivan lähes nollaan, vakavasta taudista puhumattakaan. NYT on aika reissata ympäri maata, mitään ei voi lykätä! Lämpimästi tervetuloa, meillä on käsidesiä! Ei ees pudota tarttumisen riskiä lähelle nollaa Deltan kanssa. Vakava tauti kyllä tippuu vieläkin yli 90% todennäköisyydessä tosin. Katoppa Israelin dataa, niillä on niin hyvä rokotekattavuus että niiden data parasta laatua.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:30
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Warden posted:They loving should have vaccinated all of us as soon as they could have. I agree with this sentiment. Even if we generally follow age preference, maybe being in a vulnerable profession should count as +10 modifier to age or something like that? Problems might arise from the healthcare sector not having up to date information about everyone's job situation, but that's a problem that can be solved by throwing a few billion euros to Tieto so they can cross-check two Excel files.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:30
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bloom posted:Eivät nämä rajoituksetkaan mitään ilmaisia ole, rahallisessa tai inhimillisessä mielessä. Vai eikö siitä ole mitään haittaa, jos meillä kasvaa sosiaalisesti eristetty sukupolvi joiden opiskelu on koostunut youtuben katselemisesta zoomissa? Eh, they'll be fine. Currently lukio is nowadays a corporate mandated uraohjus-hellhole that heavily favors "hard" sciences over humanities, so maybe it'll do them more good jumping out of that rat race. Vocational schools are no better. So basically everything is poo poo anyway.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:31
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endlessmonotony posted:Ei ees pudota tarttumisen riskiä lähelle nollaa Deltan kanssa. Ihan totta tämä, kunhan yritin vähän yksinkertaistaa tekstiä. Mutta joka tapauksessa deltaakin vastaan tartunnan saamisen riski on aivan valtavasti pienempi toisen annoksen jälkeen, vaikka ei suinkaan lähellekään nolla.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:35
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Eh, they'll be fine. Currently lukio is nowadays a corporate mandated uraohjus-hellhole that heavily favors "hard" sciences over humanities, so maybe it'll do them more good jumping out of that rat race. Vocational schools are no better. This is a refreshingly weird take. What should they jump into? Twitch streaming is very popular these days.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:35
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Nenonen posted:I agree with this sentiment. Even if we generally follow age preference, maybe being in a vulnerable profession should count as +10 modifier to age or something like that? It puzzles me that every year they managed to organize vaccinations against influenza for us in addition to the health care workers via our occupational health care, but not the covid vaccine. No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Eh, they'll be fine. Currently lukio is nowadays a corporate mandated uraohjus-hellhole that heavily favors "hard" sciences over humanities, so maybe it'll do them more good jumping out of that rat race. Vocational schools are no better. I would take offense to that if you weren't hitting at least partially close to the mark. Edit. At least, it feels like that sometimes. Warden fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 19:36
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Warden posted:I would take offense to that if you weren't hitting at least partially close to the mark. Well, this is something I picked up while I was in adult night school, and how they changed the points system for university entrance tests by giving points of variable degree depending on what you studied. Finland being an engineer heavy country, you get the most points from STEM curriculums. This has resulted in students ignoring curriculums that only give low points or just streamlining their portfolio. Thus languages like german or france for that matter are suffering, since they don't fit in the students busy schedules. Add in brain farts from consultants giving academic freedom to students when they sure as hell aren't mentally ready for it and you have a mix that's gonna appear in PISA results for a long time.
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Aug 3, 2021 19:55
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Well, this is something I picked up while I was in adult night school, and how they changed the points system for university entrance tests by giving points of variable degree depending on what you studied. Finland being an engineer heavy country, you get the most points from STEM curriculums. This has resulted in students ignoring curriculums that only give low points or just streamlining their portfolio. Thus languages like german or france for that matter are suffering, since they don't fit in the students busy schedules. Add in brain farts from consultants giving academic freedom to students when they sure as hell aren't mentally ready for it and you have a mix that's gonna appear in PISA results for a long time. I am well aware, since I teach humanities and languages. And trust me when I say that I am quite unhappy with the changes. Edit. Also, I've taught at adult night school, and liked it a lot. If given the choice of permanent position at adult night school or regular high school, I'd probably pick the former. Of course, I am never going to get a permanent position with my combo of subjects. 
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Aug 3, 2021 20:03
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The reasoning behind long math being given highest score is that it's actually hard, so it shows motivation and intelligence, even if you don't actually care about math or are good at it. 
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Aug 3, 2021 20:07
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Eh, they'll be fine. Currently lukio is nowadays a corporate mandated uraohjus-hellhole that heavily favors "hard" sciences over humanities, so maybe it'll do them more good jumping out of that rat race. Vocational schools are no better. Yeah let's just sacrifice the youth. We failed so why should they get a chance? endlessmonotony posted:Pitkä covid todnäk on vaan se sama viirustartuntojen jälkitauti jota meillä nyt on näkynyt vuosikymmeniä. Plus hapenpuute. Oireet ainakin sopii. Niin ja missä ovat olleet nämä vuosikymmeniä jatkuneet yhteiskunnan sulut?
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Aug 3, 2021 20:10
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doverhog posted:The reasoning behind long math being given highest score is that it's actually hard, so it shows motivation and intelligence, even if you don't actually care about math or are good at it. That, and advanced math has 10 + 3 courses. Of course, the system of determining the base value the points based on the number of courses in national curriculum leads to a lot of stupidity. You get more points for religion than extra foreign language when applying to study a foreign language in university, for example.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:11
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bloom posted:Niin ja missä ovat olleet nämä vuosikymmeniä jatkuneet yhteiskunnan sulut? Samassa paikassa kuin näin nopeasti leviävät taudit.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:13
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doverhog posted:The reasoning behind long math being given highest score is that it's actually hard, so it shows motivation and intelligence, even if you don't actually care about math or are good at it. People who are good at math will still breeze through it but people who aren't will struggle a lot. Like, I had a much easier time with math than anything where I actually had to read poo poo and put in work. It's a very different skillset than non-science subjects. It does not make sense to put a strong emphasis on math in career paths that don't require it. Andrast fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 20:15
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bloom posted:Yeah let's just sacrifice the youth. We failed so why should they get a chance? They'll have chances. Just because their lives didn't go from A to B as planned doesn't mean they have failed in their lives and there's no point in living anymore.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:23
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doverhog posted:The reasoning behind long math being given highest score is that it's actually hard, so it shows motivation and intelligence, even if you don't actually care about math or are good at it. By using that logic, most score should be given to swedish courses. You really need motivation for that.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:23
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doverhog posted:The reasoning behind long math being given highest score is that it's actually hard, so it shows motivation and intelligence, even if you don't actually care about math or are good at it. It's "hard" because it is taught wrong, not because it is some selector for who is an ubermensch and who is not. If a child is good at languages, or geography, doesn't make them any "less hard working", "less motivated" or "less intelligent", and it's frankly insulting to insinuate so. And yes I did pitkän matikan with a good grade, and you're still a bit of a butt, sir.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:41
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One reason they moved away from entrance exams was to make the system more equal. In many places you had to take valmennuskurssi, which are private and cost money, to have a real chance of getting in. The course operators knew exactly what to teach so it was not fair. That was an argument for moving away from pääsykokeet.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:41
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Rappaport posted:It's "hard" because it is taught wrong, not because it is some selector for who is an ubermensch and who is not. If a child is good at languages, or geography, doesn't make them any "less hard working", "less motivated" or "less intelligent", and it's frankly insulting to insinuate so. You seem to have problems with reading comprehension, as I described the reasoning, but never said I agreed with it.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:42
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doverhog posted:You seem to have problems with reading comprehension, as I described the reasoning, but never said I agreed with it. I can appreciate you not agreeing with it, why would anyone, but you presented it pretty straight-faced, so I posted a rebuttal.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:46
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