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PAINMAKER VS MDK | 63 | 41.45% | |
ELIMINATION TAG | 82 | 53.95% | |
ARCHER VS HIKULEO | 2 | 1.32% | |
FTR VS PNP | 5 | 3.29% | |
Total: | 152 votes |
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Seams posted:their next rap should be about how nice julia's vagina is don't forget AsInHowe posted:- only compliment genitals if you have to talk about them at all
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:35 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 14:20 |
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We’re gonna have 200+ beautiful new Discourse posts by 9:00am EST tomorrow, where the closest thing to a consensus will be that the croissants line is racist towards the French.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:35 |
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AEW yanking it from the video is dumb since I'm sure it's out there already, i feel like an apology from creative in text form would be fine considering how many people were aware of this before it went out but if Max has to do some kinda apology thing and time off penance you may as well just poo poo can the Acclaimed , which would really suck. Presumably the stuff with Julia is cleared with her and part of the angle, the Blonds beat their asses tonight for it while she cheered so that's whatever the rest is shitposting, of a sort
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:35 |
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Max should rap the apology
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:36 |
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NienNunb posted:We’re gonna have 200+ beautiful new Discourse posts by 9:00am EST tomorrow, where the closest thing to a consensus will be that the croissants line is racist towards the French. The loving French.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:36 |
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lot of people pro rape jokes itt
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:37 |
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AsInHowe posted:don't forget Talking about vaginas, cocks and balls rules though. JUNGLE BOY posted:Max should rap the apology Hell yeah brother
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:37 |
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I wish max had rapped about the withheld dna evidence and disbarred prosecutor
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:38 |
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https://twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1419719180950114308
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:38 |
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is it ok to call him trump now
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:38 |
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Eat My Fuc posted:You are hilariously sycophantic, bravo my friend. Have you considered "Crying more" about it, "bitch"? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:38 |
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Bowens should stop Caster at the very first yo instead of the last word to avoid further controversy.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:38 |
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StarkRavingMad posted:The Biles joke is about her pulling out of several Olympic events due to having the "twisties," none of this other stuff about her has been in the media focus at all. "The Twisties", not unlike the "yips" are a disconnect between the body and mind, which falls under "mental health", which, and I am not a psychologist or anything, may be affected by bad things that have happened to you? I knew who Nassar was but didn't connect the two things until some people pointed it out shortly after she withdrew. It definitely hasn't been the dominant topic of conversation re: Simone Biles, a lot of that is just garden variety crypto-racist "spoiled athletes" stuff. You shouldn't feel bad for not knowing about it. None of you, to my knowledge, decided to use the subject for a diss rap. Or I guess lol heel heat I've been gotten to
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:38 |
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:is it ok to call him trump now just don't call him late for dinner!!
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:39 |
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I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. That's just my opinion.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:39 |
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the toxic aew locker room at it again
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:40 |
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THATB for the love of god THATB
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:40 |
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JUNGLE BOY posted:Max should rap the apology Everybody should know this I'm as sorry as can be Don't serve me my notice I'm scared of NXT
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:41 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. When I make rape jokes at work nobody gets mad at me to my face and many of my male coworkers think they’re hilarious. I’m pretty confident that everyone is okay with my jokes.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:42 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. Everyone in the locker room is afraid of stepping on The Acclaimed's toes--BBT is high on them!
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:42 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. That's fair, power imbalance probably has a factor in whatever degree she agreed to the lines, it'll be interesting to see how this is handled
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:42 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. Jordan7hm posted:When I make rape jokes at work nobody gets mad at me to my face and many of my male coworkers think they’re hilarious. I’m pretty confident that everyone is okay with my jokes. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:43 |
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KungFu Grip posted:lot of people pro rape jokes itt Yep. And a lot of people pro talking about teenage girl genitals itt. Any suggestion of "well I'm sure they cleared it with Julia so it's fine" is total bull. Even if they did, you're a teenage girl in your first big gig in the wrestling industry and people come to you and put you on the spot to say "hey I want to do this line", you're not going to rock the boat and call it out as seedy, creepy garbage. You're unlikely to parse the kind of toxicity it immediately will give off to every woman who hears it on youtube. You're just going to listen to the supposed veteran and say "sure" to be agreeable and easy to work with. So no, do not try and pin this on Julia.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:43 |
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All the victims and Julia actually wrote the rap, but now i’m mad at him for having a ghost writer.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:44 |
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Yo Yo Yo My latest rap added 23 pages to the thread discourse Like Tom Clancy I keep being problematic without remorse
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:44 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. Yeah, the whole idea that a 19 year old female rookie unquestionably has the confidence, voice, and opportunity to speak up IF she's bothered (by an act that is a project of the owner) seems like a leap. It would also be a leap to assume she's offended and too afraid to say anything. I don't think we have any real insight into her feelings on the matter so she really shouldn't be used as a weapon for either side of the argument.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:45 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy/gimmick killer by the acclaimed. Kind of a lose lose for her. Maybe she’s a pros pro but for weeks now they say stuff, she gives a big reaction to the camera and then tonight when the Acclaimed got beat up she’s giving a big rah rah cheerleader reaction for her guys. It’s possible she’s totally miserable but then the entire segment and some of the camera direction is built around it. Seems less likely than she’s playing a character and having fun rooting her team on while side eyeing the assholes. So if she hates this the company is doing something super messed up.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:45 |
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The only solution is MDK vs Platinum Max
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:46 |
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, the whole idea that a 19 year old female rookie unquestionably has the confidence, voice, and opportunity to speak up IF she's bothered (by an act that is a project of the owner) seems like a leap. It would also be a leap to assume she's offended and too afraid to say anything. I don't think we have any real insight into her feelings on the matter so she really shouldn't be used as a weapon for either side of the argument. Agreed. I don't think completely denying Julia's agency is the right move.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:46 |
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KungFu Grip posted:lot of people pro rape jokes itt Yep and it loving sucks
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:46 |
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I'd be loving bummed if I went to a wrestling show and heard a heel do loving rape jokes about real life events man I've been to shows where wrestlers called the crowd homophobic slurs for heat and it instantly kills any good memory I have of the show, would be the same reaction hearing that loving Duke line live. If I'd brought any wrestling-skeptic friends I'd be deeply loving embarrassed and ashamed that people in my hobby would think a line like that is okay to not just say in the moment but put on a loving taped show upload a week later I don't think Caster should get fired but I absolutely think he should at least get a Sammy-style suspension and we deserve an apology not just for the lines but also that AEW editors and producers would think that is okay to upload as is
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:46 |
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i get that rolling collective eyes at The Discourse is what we do here and all but rape jokes for cheap heat was both already lovely and already lame when the dudley boys were doing them a quarter of a century ago
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:47 |
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zimbomonkey posted:I feel like "Julia is okay with it" might be a stretch because unless she's literally coming up with those jokes herself she has to either accept it or risk being viewed as a killjoy. Kind of a lose lose for her. I've been figuring she's okay with it since she mugs at the camera every week about it, and I'm also assuming at some point she's going to kick Caster in the balls to cap off the storyline, but you're right that unspoken pressure is a legitimate concern. Edge & Christian posted:It hasn't been the focus in the midst of a bunch of Twitter/ESPN Yelling Heads show level 'discourse', like I said, but it's absolutely something that's not very hard to know about. She mentioned it directly in pre-Olympics interviews with places like the New York Times as both why she wanted to go back to the Olympics one more time (to win medals for herself/for a team that doesn't include Nassar) and I guess I was incorrect that she directly cited it as part of why she quit, but she did retweet one of the other abused gymnasts who said as much, and it was very much part (though not yelled as loudly in the sports sections I guess) of the media focus. Yeah, all of what I've seen about it has been other gymnasts saying that it's real, a lot of high level gymnasts get this at some point, and it's super dangerous for someone doing the kind of high level moves she is doing, and that it absolutely sucks that it happened to her at the most heartbreaking time. I haven't seen anything in the media connecting it to previous sexual trauma which is why I figured the rap was just going for the kind of non-empathetic "spoiled athletes" heat you're talking about which was a lot of CHUD-types initial response
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:49 |
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buncha mizzarks
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:49 |
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It's gonna be great to have the United Center show marred by a horribly rapped Brad Aldrich joke.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:49 |
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CarlCX posted:i get that rolling collective eyes at The Discourse is what we do here and all but rape jokes for cheap heat was both already lovely and already lame when the dudley boys were doing them a quarter of a century ago
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:50 |
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If Max was a real pro, he would've rhymed something with Krzyzewski instead of making a Duke Lacrosse joke
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:52 |
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just... there's a lot of things you can talk about out there that are lovely but aren't rape level lovely. You don't have to talk about rape. You just don't.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:52 |
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abraham linksys posted:I don't think Caster should get fired but I absolutely think he should at least get a Sammy-style suspension and we deserve an apology not just for the lines but also that AEW editors and producers would think that is okay to upload as is Why would he get punished by AEW if it's been okayed? They said yes. It's on them. Allowing him to go out and say that, seeing the reaction to it and then punishing him for what they gave the OK to, is dogshit. He should probably apologize for coming up with it though.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:52 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 14:20 |
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I still can't believe Britt Baker wasn't fired for her fat shaming or mockery of rural health systems.
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# ? Aug 4, 2021 04:53 |