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my high school was probably the only state school in Edinburgh that offered Latin at least, they did, but I think they stopped it before my fourth year. idk, I've tried to erase most everything about high school from my mind lmaoooo e: 277 = 13th February 1977: Tony Crosland has a stroke, and he dies six days later in hospital. He wasn't very good before that. Venomous fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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I wasn't taught Latin but we did have a sadistic French teacher who treated us like slaves which seems pretty close to a Classical Latin life. Burn painfully in Hell for eternity Miss Lynam, nobody loved you.
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Can't remember if I ever posted about my school's Cunning Linguistics, but there were still a few teachers there who wished the place was the grammar school it had been in the 70s, rather than the hormonal Thunderdome that it was. Anyway streaming (in the educational sense) was very much forbidden, but the headmaster had a very clever idea. Funding was available to teach a second foreign language on top of the mandatory one (French, Sylhet, or ESOL were the choices - and yes, you better believe there were tabloid stories about those last two) but there was no gap in the timetable for the lessons, so instead of eking out another 45-minute period they said they would use ten minutes of the daily morning form period[1], meaning that they would have to reorganise all of the forms, creating two new ones. Naturally this would mean all the swotty nerds who wanted to learn a second language would end up in those two forms, meaning they would also stay together for all of the other mandatory lessons (English, Science, Maths and Games), effectively streaming them at least for those core subjects and also letting them have the less useless form teachers too. This was an extremely clever idea, right up until the point the worst headbangers in the school realised that if they all signed up for German too they could all be with their mates for more lessons and also would have form periods in the language department on the first floor, very handy for bunking-off purposes. This is how swotty nerd me ended up with absolutely no knowledge of German but an encyclopaedic knowledge of which shops would sell booze and fags to kids literally in school uniform, and you know I feel like that was actually a fair trade. [1] The fact they were still called forms, as well as having houses (with coloured ties to denote the house) and that it was an all-boys school were the only evidence of that former grammar past - by the time I got there it was the worst school in Tower Hamlets, but my brothers had gone there when it was a grammar and my parents still knew the headmaster. It wasn't until the school was literally named in a World In Action film about the worst schools in the country that they believed me and apologised for not letting me go to the school all my mates had gone to but by then I was having way too much fun with aforementioned headbangers and said they didn't have to worry about getting me a transfer. e: I bunked off the lesson on numbering and checking footnotes goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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I went to a public school (only because I got an 80% scholarship + further bursary, before you put me against the wall) and I did not only GCSE Latin but Ancient Greek too (although I remember nothing of the latter other than still being able to read the alphabet). Caecilius crew 4 lyfe We all had to do French, and you could also do Spanish or German.
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Aug 4, 2021 17:06
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Jakabite posted:Do they ever teach you whether or not Guto Bebb is, in fact, a Star Wars name?  I only know how to say "Saes oval office" (which I'm told means "my good fellow")
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Aug 4, 2021 17:21
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Guavanaut posted:I see this come up a lot in memes from libertarian and David Icke types and I wonder what it was they learned in school. I didn't do Latin, but we did cover basic agronomy in biology and water treatment was a whole module in chemistry from GCSE up, because those are among the most important contributions those fields have made to humanity. I did A-level chemistry and all they taught us was polymerisation and fractional distillation, nothing useful. They never told me how to grow food either which is a big swindle because you can just get food for free out of the ground but for some reason everyone's pressured into having nice grass instead? regular garden grass is useless and easily one of the worst things you can grow. I don't know what seizing the means of food production has to do with David Icke. It's a useful skill kids should be taught that will help them and the environment.
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Aug 4, 2021 17:26
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I think you can apply fractional distillation to make stronger booze so that's quite useful. Also have some photos from my last couple work trips to whitby.     
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Aug 4, 2021 17:28
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Labour is riddled with TERFs https://twitter.com/socialistmandy/status/1422659990729498630?s=21 “Not transphobic” *shares transphobic petition*
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Lamont posted:I went to a public school (only because I got an 80% scholarship + further bursary, before you put me against the wall) and I did not only GCSE Latin but Ancient Greek too (although I remember nothing of the latter other than still being able to read the alphabet). Caecilius crew 4 lyfe One of the only... not regrets, because I'm fairly happy with how things turned out, but great what ifs of my life is I won a scholarship to a pretty good school when I was 7 but turned it down because it would have involved either boarding or 90 minutes bus and train both ways, and really I didn't want to be separated from all my mates. Having said that, I happened to be friends with a kid who did end up going there and he's now manager of a McDonalds in Reading (although he has won Countdown quite a few times) so I'm not entirely sure if I'd even have ended up materially better off had I gone.
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Aug 4, 2021 17:34
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Jakabite posted:Do they ever teach you whether or not Guto Bebb is, in fact, a Star Wars name? please, more jokes about how non-English names sound funny it really lifts the tone of the thread
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Aug 4, 2021 17:38
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Noxville posted:Labour is riddled with TERFs "Erosion of sex-based rights"? Isn't this a good thing? Isn't giving people different people different rights based on their sex the exact opposite of what feminism is about? This is rhetorical, I know TERFs care a lot more about the T part than the F part.
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Aug 4, 2021 17:55
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Butternubs posted:I did A-level chemistry and all they taught us was polymerisation and fractional distillation, nothing useful. They never told me how to grow food either which is a big swindle because you can just get food for free out of the ground but for some reason everyone's pressured into having nice grass instead? regular garden grass is useless and easily one of the worst things you can grow.  with varying degrees of detail. I can remember filter beds, settling, ion exchange columns, and chlorination as part of it. Then A-level will expand on that with general techniques that you could use to make a bunch of chlorine if needed. The agronomy we covered in biology was just the basics of what plants crave, Butternubs posted:I don't know what seizing the means of food production has to do with David Icke. It's a useful skill kids should be taught that will help them and the environment.  which if they're so proud of never paying any attention how do they know that isn't already the case? OwlFancier posted:I think you can apply fractional distillation to make stronger booze so that's quite useful.
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I feel like chemistry could definitely have applications in land reform.
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Guavanaut posted:The agronomy we covered in biology was just the basics of what plants crave, You don't have to grow enough cover all your food needs but anything you grow means something that doesn't have to be grown and harvested by an exploited worker and transported around the world on a C02 spewing ship. I've never really associated being taught more practical skills in school with lizard people but I agree that being taught some combination of the history of WW2 and the Tudors on repeat every year for 5 years could be replaced with like basic finance or something. e: I looked up if there were any of my local councillors on that TERF list and:  https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-doctor-who-lied-twice-12823199 Of course. Butternubs fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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Aug 4, 2021 18:12
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Butternubs posted:This is rhetorical, I know TERFs care a lot more about the T part than the F part. They're not feminists, they just appropriate the language and assume that 'woman' means 'able bodied middle class guardian reader.' But people who's brains haven't been destroyed by twitter discourse are going to see it and think we're just being childish (which we also are). We should really work out & disseminate a new acronym, something that doesn't spell a rude word but also sums up all of the transphobic, exclusionary, narrow minded appropriation of the ideology.
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Aug 4, 2021 18:21
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That it spells fart is a benefit.
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Aug 4, 2021 18:22
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Butternubs posted:You don't have to grow enough cover all your food needs but anything you grow means something that doesn't have to be grown and harvested by an exploited worker and transported around the world on a C02 spewing ship. I've seen some council estate schools that were once in need of improvement or whatever they call it now adopt a communal allotment type thing and have good results with that, I think more as a group effort and a visceral sense of where food comes from more than a "school could feed itself this way too" idea, which sounds far too Michael Gove for my liking, but it's a nice project. The problem comes from the people who see radical self sufficiency as the goal of learning as some form of panacea, either because they can't see past the individual (like libertarians and that Lib Dem peer who suggested foraging for berries as a solution to urban food poverty) or because they're off the rails and think that everyone becoming self sufficient will starve out the fifteen Lizard Popes that rule the galaxy or whatever those people believe. It's definitely possible to get kids interested in some tomato bags without going that far, but also a problem that the people being loudest about it have gone that far, haven't been near a school in decades (in the case of libertarians, Lib Dem peers, and most conspiracy types probably a good thing), and/or are allergic to any kind of systemic solutions to anything.
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Aug 4, 2021 18:46
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You could do a lot to increase sustainability by individually switching your meat consumption to michael gove. Or that might be how you commune with father dagon, I don't know. One of the two.
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Borrovan posted:Most older people I know tell the same story about thinking learning Welsh was a waste of time, but nowadays knowing Welsh absolutely does give you a competitive advantage, almost every public-facing job (& iirc literally every public sector job, by law) will ask if you speak Welsh on the application form, and it's a big tick if you do. Only in Wales though. If you wanted to take advantage of your EU membership and move freely around Euro..p..e... ... erm... oh dear.... French or German would be more be useful. Oh pooh we can't do that anymore can we... Guavanaut posted:I see this come up a lot in memes from libertarian and David Icke types and I wonder what it was they learned in school. I didn't do Latin, but we did cover basic agronomy in biology and water treatment was a whole module in chemistry from GCSE up, because those are among the most important contributions those fields have made to humanity. For some reason, I am reminded of the academic paper on creating a strawberry pop-tart flame thrower using only a strawberry pop-tart and a toaster: https://www.pmichaud.com/toast/ Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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James Wong, a botanist, has things to say about self-sufficiency farming https://twitter.com/botanygeek/status/1260839178432020480?lang=en A good follow. And a master of dunking on racists who mix him up with every East Asian man who's ever looked at a plant.
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learnincurve posted:Meanwhile all the colleges in the U.K. have cut all their 2 year btec and equivalent courses because they won’t get funding for them next year, and are only offering 1 year versions instead, although some will have an option to continue on and pay to do a level 4 HNC diploma afterwards. Christ! this is bad.. In my late 20's I did part-time college for 2 years to get an hnc in computing which led to a good job that I'm still in, it was very much a second chance for me. loving sucks for the young 'uns now, no second chances for them in tory britain 
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Get a Tayberry vine. loving thing will not stop producing and if I had more space it would have taken it all. 1 cereal bowl of delicious, sharp berries every day. (and yes I know its not sustainable but its damned nice having fresh crumble or compote/jam every day) I put a cheap plastic trellis up the side of my shed, spray it with a fruit bug clear gun every month in the evening and feed it some long absorb pellet fertiliser. By far the best producing plant for effort I've done so far. Tomatoes you have to keep pruning for air flow or they'll get every disease under the sun, them and strawberries get absolutely hammered by slugs, snails and caterpillars so you'd best be prepared for biological warfare. One thing pissing me off are these fuckers.   I think its some kind of sawfly which would explain the absolute mangling of my chilli leaves. The jalapeños will not recover this year =(
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Trainee PornStar posted:Christ! this is bad.. Congrats on going back into a trainee program after all that, I hear porn is a growth industry
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Aug 4, 2021 19:19
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Noxville posted:Labour is riddled with TERFs My "not transphobic" tweet has a lot of people asking me questions already answered by the tweet Butternubs posted:"Erosion of sex-based rights"? Isn't this a good thing? Isn't giving people different people different rights based on their sex the exact opposite of what feminism is about? Someone who knows the theory can probably correct me but my understanding is that not all schools of feminism want equality in that sense. Some believe very much that women are different from men I get the impression a lot of terfism comes from this school, the feminists who basically had to reinvent the idea of a woman as a powerful and positive unique thing and did so in opposition or contrast to their idea of a man. And as women their self identity and esteem and world view grows around this. The idea of a man becoming a woman is completely antethical to this. It shatters the whole thing. E cos if so, a woman is just a series of learned behaviours and expectations. To which I would say well duh but they utterly disagree Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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OwlFancier posted:You could do a lot to increase sustainability by individually switching your meat consumption to michael gove. Obviously, first we eat the rich but please, do not make the mistake of growing more of them.
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Trainee PornStar posted:Christ! this is bad.. Mini’s course has been effected, instead of 90 points she’s doing the 1.5 A level equivalent which means the only option she’s left with is paying for the HNC via loans. Only slight “well ok then” is that they have been forced to drop the entry requirements for the HNC to accommodate the change which should balance itself out.
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Communist Thoughts posted:E cos if so, a woman is just a series of learned behaviours and expectations. To which I would say well duh but they utterly disagree What is a woman? A miserable little pile of learned behaviours!
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Aug 4, 2021 19:27
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Communist Thoughts posted:My "not transphobic" tweet has a lot of people asking me questions already answered by the tweet I think this is what some of the second wavers ended up with, along with the general criticism that it was quite booj in general with a lot of well educated and fairly well off people leading it. Presumably dovetailing with the current preponderance of horrible rich academics and celebs with lovely opinions.
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Failed Imagineer posted:What is a woman? A miserable little pile of learned behaviours!
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And you could have it all My empire of TERF I will let you down I will make you HRT
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Communist Thoughts posted:My "not transphobic" tweet has a lot of people asking me questions already answered by the tweet
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Trainee PornStar posted:Christ! this is bad.. Don't worry about it. They didn't have any first chances either.
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OwlFancier posted:I think this is what some of the second wavers ended up with, A lot of Radical (not radical) Feminists were like that all along. I remember tedious people feeling an innate female connection to the moon and such things. They felt to me like a fairly small minority of feminists back then, but they're the only ones people remember - in part I think because anyone with better politics acquired other labels as well.
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Oh yeah I heard there's a bunch of weird crystal people who go hard on the gender essentialism. Like lmao why are you making up a religion if you're just gonna reinvent all the stuff the existing ones already think.
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Noxville posted:Labour is riddled with TERFs 
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Bobstar posted:James Wong, a botanist, has things to say about self-sufficiency farming I do get why to some types it's terrifying on a primal level that they might run out of food and not be able to do anything about it as an individual, but the solution to that is and has always been to learn from collective lessons rather than pretend that the world becomes Minecraft if you turn the government off. Oh dear me posted:A lot of Radical (not radical) Feminists were like that all along. I remember tedious people feeling an innate female connection to the moon and such things. They felt to me like a fairly small minority of feminists back then, but they're the only ones people remember - in part I think because anyone with better politics acquired other labels as well. OwlFancier posted:Oh yeah I heard there's a bunch of weird crystal people who go hard on the gender essentialism.
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If you are able, I would suggest you keep a 2-3 week supply of non essential items such as dry pet foods/non perishable food stuffs and the like. I am expecting we're going to get a frankly catastrophic supply chain failure in the very near future. We'll recover from it fairly quickly, I imagine through a rapid relaxation of the rules governing driver qualifications/entry visas but it might be very very painful in about a month.
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They probably believe that menstruation is connected to the moon. Despite many, many people who menstruate having cycle lengths that are either somewhat irregular, or far adrift from 28 days.
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serious gaylord posted:If you are able, I would suggest you keep a 2-3 week supply of non essential items such as dry pet foods/non perishable food stuffs and the like. Stock up on sex arses, gotcha
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