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Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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SpartanIvy posted:

It has to be some combination of improper ventilation causing high humidity in your crawl space and low insulating value of the vent insulation allowing the exterior to be cool enough for condensate to form.

If this only happens on occasion when there is bad weather and then everything dries up after the weather improves, it's probably not an actual issue as sometimes it's just that humid and wet. But if your crawl space is always humid enough that this happens all the time then I would definitely be looking into why and how to fix it. Your crawl space should not be considerably more humid than the outside air for very long. If it is then you have improper ventilation trapping humidity raising from the ground down there.

Sorry for the vague answer, but there's a lot of factors in play with a problem like this, and it's sort of up to you to figure out which one is the one not in balance with the rest. Could be low insulation value on your vents, could be low ventilation in the crawl space, could be high humidity caused by other issues.

I would thoroughly research the problem before you decide to dump a bunch of money on crawl space encapsulation and get results you aren't happy with. There's a lot of videos on youtube about it and it's a good way to see what you get, both good and bad, from it. The Crawlspace Ninja channel has some particularly nice videos, but be aware they're obviously trying to sell something with them.

I guess I could take that leak detector my home insurance company wants me to use and put it down there to see what the relative humidity stays at, since that's where the water heater is anyway? See how much that device reacts to it to see if what is going on there is "normal" or not?

I can't speak to how the conditions are in there over time yet since I literally just moved in last week, but I'll keep checking down there and see how things go in between work and other stuff. The earliest anybody can come out to inspect the crawlspace for actual damage/mold conditions is the 14th anyway so it's not like I'm going to be making any fast decisions anyway.

EDIT: I didn't go all the way into the crawlspace last time I was down there to see how the wood looks at the tight end of the space, but what I could see of the wood underneath the floors of the house looked like regular old wood to me. No obvious discolorations/"wet looking" wood or mold/etc. growths yet. But I'll keep looking. If there's still enough light when I get home after work I'll snap some pics and post them.

Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Aug 3, 2021

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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
If you want a bunch of armchair internet opinions pull out your title report from when you bought the house and post the exact language of your easement here, redacting anything which could ID it (road names, numbers, you get the idea.)

The Vikings
Jul 3, 2004

ODIN!!!!!

Nap Ghost

devicenull posted:

AFAIK some flippers do this (create a business with the address as it's name, use that for buying he house, paying contractors, etc). It'll probably show up on the deed if you go back to that period.
The house we just bought had this, but the address was wrong. Think 561 when the correct address is 516. Was sweating that they screwed up in the paperwork somewhere but I guess they just messed it up when forming the LLC. Pretty funny but didn't affect the transaction so a win for us.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
So I've learned why my yard appears to be deteriorating so rapidly in appearance since I bought it. Per a neighbor, previous owner was a lawn care professional at a golf club, and had spent the last 2 years getting the yard into tip top shape.

I look forward to my field of mud and moss.

:suicide:

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Immediately loving up your lawn is a first-time lawn-owner rite of passage!

They are finicky bastards

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Bring on the mud and moss, we've mowed half as many times this year as last :stoked: Was a little concerned about being "that house" but then 2 doors down let theirs get 2 feet tall last month, so not even the most likely to get scolded

movax
Aug 30, 2008

X-posting from wiring thread here, looking for a sanity check before drilling through things that I should not be... (was this the quick questions thread? I swear there was another thread for this, but I just can't find it.

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007

This hole is where the pneumatic door closer was screwed into. The wood came out with the screws on its own.

Though it looks like separate pieces, it’s one solid piece all the way up to the top of the door frame. The wood to the left behind the gasket is a separate piece.

What’s the best way to fix this? My main goals are to fill said hole and get the door closer back on there while making it not look like poo poo. Although I am willing to make it look not great if cost/difficultly are a prohibiting factor.





devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Pilfered Pallbearers posted:

This hole is where the pneumatic door closer was screwed into. The wood came out with the screws on its own.

Though it looks like separate pieces, it’s one solid piece all the way up to the top of the door frame. The wood to the left behind the gasket is a separate piece.

What’s the best way to fix this? My main goals are to fill said hole and get the door closer back on there while making it not look like poo poo. Although I am willing to make it look not great if cost/difficultly are a prohibiting factor.







Congrats, your door is hosed.

You really aren't going to be able to just fill that hole and reattach the closer... the best option I see would be to cut out all the wood on that inner frame from the top of your picture down. Then, replace that all with a 2x4 or whatever fits, sand, prime, paint, and then reattach.

There should be another 2x4 behind that wood that's the actual structural part of the door frame that you can attach to.

Alternatively you can take the approach the previous owner of my house took... find a piece of metal that fits the opening, screw all the way through your destroyed frame, and then mount the opener to that.\

You've definitely got a water leak somewhere though - does the storm door not have a solid glass insert?

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
Depending on how the frame around that door was constructed, I think if you take the moulding and threshold off you can take all of that out and replace it with a new door frame, shim it in, secure it and then paint it/put moulding and doors back in.

Pretty sure the Home Depot/Lowes (or equivalent) even have prefab frames for sale for interior and exterior doors in most standard sizes if you don't have woodworking tools/don't want to dig through straps of lumber for straight pieces.

skybolt_1
Oct 21, 2010
Fun Shoe

Pilfered Pallbearers posted:

What’s the best way to fix this? My main goals are to fill said hole and get the door closer back on there while making it not look like poo poo. Although I am willing to make it look not great if cost/difficultly are a prohibiting factor.

You can buy pieces of door casing at lumber yards and home centers. Make sure you get the style that includes the slot for the weatherstripping to slot into.

I have repaired these before using PT, a table saw, and a oscillating tool but there was less damage that what I see in the photo, maybe a foot or so total. Good luck. This isn't a fun repair no matter which way you attempt it.

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007

devicenull posted:

Congrats, your door is hosed.

You really aren't going to be able to just fill that hole and reattach the closer... the best option I see would be to cut out all the wood on that inner frame from the top of your picture down. Then, replace that all with a 2x4 or whatever fits, sand, prime, paint, and then reattach.

There should be another 2x4 behind that wood that's the actual structural part of the door frame that you can attach to.

Alternatively you can take the approach the previous owner of my house took... find a piece of metal that fits the opening, screw all the way through your destroyed frame, and then mount the opener to that.\

You've definitely got a water leak somewhere though - does the storm door not have a solid glass insert?

poo poo.

What leads you to believe that there’s a water leak? Cant say I’ve seen any water inside of the door whenever it rains. Storm door is two glass panes set in, with the top one able to slide down to reveal a screen.

When you say cut the wood piece out, do you mean the whole piece of wood top to bottom, or like just above the door latch there.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

Retarded for Busting
Grimey Drawer
How much should a replacement flowcenter in a geothermal system cost? This geothermal company is asking 7 large to:

• Disconnect and remove existing defective component
• Install new flow center
• Install new fittings to accommodate flow center
• Install new copper pipe & fittings & re-pipe water make up line
• Restart unit and check operation
• Labor during normal working hours

This seems steep, as these units only cost a grand.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

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Head Bee Guy posted:

How much should a replacement flowcenter in a geothermal system cost? This geothermal company is asking 7 large to:

• Disconnect and remove existing defective component
• Install new flow center
• Install new fittings to accommodate flow center
• Install new copper pipe & fittings & re-pipe water make up line
• Restart unit and check operation
• Labor during normal working hours

This seems steep, as these units only cost a grand.

Idk but def get a few quotes for that amount of money

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


CarForumPoster posted:

Idk but def get a few quotes for that amount of money

yeah I'd recommend this, I'm hoping it comes with the equipment for that cost.. otherwise that seems high, around my area 7 grand is like 70hours of labor, unless it's a lot of pipe and fittings or includes the flowcenter that seems like a "we don't wanna do it but will if you pay us enough" price.

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

Owning a geo system is like bringing your Mercedes to the shop: the mechanic knows you have money, so even simple tasks get the 'FU rich rear end in a top hat' tax.

In fairness, in most areas these systems are rare, so contractors that are actually familiar with them take advantage of supply/demand to charge more.

TheWevel
Apr 14, 2002
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A while ago I posted in this thread about the previous owner of my house not paying their HOA dues last year. Theoretically this should have been resolved in closing but I've found out that the closing attorney reached out to the HOA, got the amounts due and then...never did anything with them. We did pay a prorated amount from our closing date through the end of the year. While I've been getting this worked out, my HOA applied the 2021 dues that I paid to last year's and they're now saying that I owe for 2021 plus the initiation fee from last year when we purchased.

What's my recourse with the closing attorney here? It's pretty obvious they've screwed this up but the post-closing person has been giving me the run around. Should I just get my own attorney to deal with this?

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
What do your closing documents say? My HOA tried to say I had to pay some stuff that was already paid at closing. Thankfully it just took a single email to clear that up, but I was pulling out my docs to show that payment.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

TheWevel posted:

A while ago I posted in this thread about the previous owner of my house not paying their HOA dues last year. Theoretically this should have been resolved in closing but I've found out that the closing attorney reached out to the HOA, got the amounts due and then...never did anything with them. We did pay a prorated amount from our closing date through the end of the year. While I've been getting this worked out, my HOA applied the 2021 dues that I paid to last year's and they're now saying that I owe for 2021 plus the initiation fee from last year when we purchased.

What's my recourse with the closing attorney here? It's pretty obvious they've screwed this up but the post-closing person has been giving me the run around. Should I just get my own attorney to deal with this?

Legal question thread is over here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3266659

So I'm not clear: did you PAY the pro-rated dues at closing? Is it lined out in your closing docs? Or did your attorney just not add that amount to the closing costs? HOA dues are typically paid in advance, so you should have functionally been reimbursing the seller for the dues that they had already paid but won't be using. I can see if you closed +/- a few weeks of when they were due that there might be some confusion, but otherwise this is odd that they wouldn't have been paid at all.

TheWevel
Apr 14, 2002
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DaveSauce posted:

Legal question thread is over here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3266659

So I'm not clear: did you PAY the pro-rated dues at closing? Is it lined out in your closing docs? Or did your attorney just not add that amount to the closing costs? HOA dues are typically paid in advance, so you should have functionally been reimbursing the seller for the dues that they had already paid but won't be using. I can see if you closed +/- a few weeks of when they were due that there might be some confusion, but otherwise this is odd that they wouldn't have been paid at all.

Yes, I paid the prorated dues however the amounts due to the HOA were not part of the closing (I'll have to double check my paperwork) and the closing attorney never even mailed a check for the prorated dues that I did pay.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

TheWevel posted:

Yes, I paid the prorated dues however the amounts due to the HOA were not part of the closing (I'll have to double check my paperwork) and the closing attorney never even mailed a check for the prorated dues that I did pay.

Just looked up your old post about this, I think the PO pulled a fast one on you. They were supposed to have paid their dues on time. Looks like they just skipped it because, "well we're selling so why bother?"

Your closing attorney should 1) cough up the money (did you pay the attorney or what...?) and 2) help you go after PO for the remainder of the dues + late fees.

And also IMO 3) profusely apologize for not doing their due diligence in making sure this was all taken care of prior to closing.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

DaveSauce posted:

Just looked up your old post about this, I think the PO pulled a fast one on you. They were supposed to have paid their dues on time. Looks like they just skipped it because, "well we're selling so why bother?"

Your closing attorney should 1) cough up the money (did you pay the attorney or what...?) and 2) help you go after PO for the remainder of the dues + late fees.

And also IMO 3) profusely apologize for not doing their due diligence in making sure this was all taken care of prior to closing.

100% agreed. The seller scumbagged you, took your prorated money for things they hadn't paid for and your attorney didn't do their job right. This is on them. If the attorney gives you even the slightest bit of pushback start talking about a bar complaint. If they keep giving you pushback file the complaint and get another attorney to handle the rest.

TheWevel
Apr 14, 2002
Send Help; Trapped in Stupid Factory

Motronic posted:

100% agreed. The seller scumbagged you, took your prorated money for things they hadn't paid for and your attorney didn't do their job right. This is on them. If the attorney gives you even the slightest bit of pushback start talking about a bar complaint. If they keep giving you pushback file the complaint and get another attorney to handle the rest.

Oh yeah there's no doubt that happened but the whole point of using a closing attorney is that that money is supposed to go into escrow so all the parties get their money. I talked to my real estate agent and over the past year they fired this particular closing group so I guess I'm not the only closing they bungled. Thanks for reinforcing that I'm not crazy at least.

m0therfux0r
Oct 11, 2007

me.
Is it normal for a hot water heater pressure relief valve to do this or does it probably need to be replaced? It's definitely not a constant stream (I can see that parts of the water trail have dried). The tank is only 4 years old so I doubt the whole thing is failing, but I'm not sure if I should call someone or if this is a normal thing I just happened to notice today.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

TheWevel posted:

Oh yeah there's no doubt that happened but the whole point of using a closing attorney is that that money is supposed to go into escrow so all the parties get their money. I talked to my real estate agent and over the past year they fired this particular closing group so I guess I'm not the only closing they bungled. Thanks for reinforcing that I'm not crazy at least.

Yeah IIRC the closing attorney is (or at least can be) the escrow agent for all closing funds. If they took the money and didn't pay out to the right people, that's a pretty huge "oh poo poo" on their part.

That said, sounds like the closing attorney may have paid the PO? Which is where that money SHOULD have gone, frankly, but I would expect that part of the attorney's job was to make sure that the account was current. I mean, as long as the HOA provided the attorney with correct information, which is never a guarantee...

There also may be something on the seller's disclosure as well to state that the don't owe anything to the HOA. Usually there's wiggle room for a person to say, "oh we didn't know that the roof was leaking" and lie on the disclosure, and you have to prove it. But something like not paying annual dues is nearly impossible to deny knowledge of.

Maybe check your title insurance as well? They may cover this. Big problem for the PO if the title company made them sign an affidavit that they were current on HOA dues...

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Prv needs a replacement.

m0therfux0r
Oct 11, 2007

me.

tater_salad posted:

Prv needs a replacement.

Okay cool. I was planning on calling a plumber tomorrow. Just wanted to make sure this wasn't a "YOU NEED TO CALL IMMEDIATELY" type deal. Thanks!

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

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TheWevel posted:

Oh yeah there's no doubt that happened but the whole point of using a closing attorney is that that money is supposed to go into escrow so all the parties get their money. I talked to my real estate agent and over the past year they fired this particular closing group so I guess I'm not the only closing they bungled. Thanks for reinforcing that I'm not crazy at least.

IANAL but drat this seems like what malpractice insurance is for

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


m0therfux0r posted:

Okay cool. I was planning on calling a plumber tomorrow. Just wanted to make sure this wasn't a "YOU NEED TO CALL IMMEDIATELY" type deal. Thanks!

Yeah it won't asplode but it shouldn't leak like that. If you have basic tools (a pipe wrench) it's not difficult to do on your own

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

m0therfux0r posted:

Okay cool. I was planning on calling a plumber tomorrow. Just wanted to make sure this wasn't a "YOU NEED TO CALL IMMEDIATELY" type deal. Thanks!

I mean......chances are good it will just piddle for a while, but I'm not sure how happy I'd be about leaving the heater on if it completely venting would cause damage based on where it draining to. If that is just nothing on the floor to get damaged and a floor drain then whatever. If a few tens of gallons of water will cause an issue that's some different calculus.

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Put a bucket under it until the plumber comes?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Epitope posted:

Put a bucket under it until the plumber comes?

When those let loose they are open to your incoming water. So if you're not around a bucket isn't going to do poo poo if it fails completely.

Shutting off the water coming to the heater is the way to deal with that.

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Epitope posted:

Put a bucket under it until the plumber comes?

40 gallon bucket?

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


I'm of the mind of.. you'll probably be okay. Could you have catastrophe yes... Will you likely not. I'd you wanna be completely safe shut the heater down and turn the cold water inlet off.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

tater_salad posted:

I'm of the mind of.. you'll probably be okay. Could you have catastrophe yes... Will you likely not. I'd you wanna be completely safe shut the heater down and turn the cold water inlet off.

Same. I didn't mean to be all gloom and doom. Just pointing out what could happen, and without knowing what a bunch of water could do in that space it may matter more or less.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
Got home late and was running out of light (so no good pics), but here is what the leak detector has to say since I set it up this evening.



It hasn't rained within the last 24 hours, but it has been pretty drat humid.

Wonder how accurate the sensor actually is...

EDIT: Updated for this morning here:



That can't be good, right?

Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Aug 5, 2021

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

biracial bear for uncut posted:

That can't be good, right?

Is that your basement? 75%+ RH is too high, that is pretty much perfect mold growing humidity/temp. It's also humid enough that temperature swings will likely result in condensation, which can cause rust as well.

I'm not made of electricity, so I generally try to keep my basement in the 55-60% humidity max range. Lower than that requires near-constant dehum runtime, and that's typically low enough to avoid getting that basement stank.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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B-Nasty posted:

Is that your basement? 75%+ RH is too high, that is pretty much perfect mold growing humidity/temp. It's also humid enough that temperature swings will likely result in condensation, which can cause rust as well.

I'm not made of electricity, so I generally try to keep my basement in the 55-60% humidity max range. Lower than that requires near-constant dehum runtime, and that's typically low enough to avoid getting that basement stank.

Yeah, the crawlspace I posted about on the previous page.

Evenings are super loving humid right now though and it looks like all that fog/moisture in the air just flows right into the crawlspace while the air blows said fog/mist around, then it sits until the heat of the day and the air movement during the day stirs it around (it was briefly at about 46% while I was under the house putting the detector in place after getting it connected to the home's wifi, but as evening came on it skyrocketed).

EDIT: I'm thinking about getting a few of these and putting them on one side of the crawlspace to try and force airflow through underneath the home (figuring on one side because as air is pushed out thru the screens on one side, it'll pull fresh air from the other side's vents and on out through the crawlspace), just need to run power to them somehow.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/18-in-x-9-in-Silver-Galvanized-Steel-Crawl-Space-Fan-Vent-V2D/302202048

Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Aug 5, 2021

m0therfux0r
Oct 11, 2007

me.

Motronic posted:

Same. I didn't mean to be all gloom and doom. Just pointing out what could happen, and without knowing what a bunch of water could do in that space it may matter more or less.

I'm calling the plumber today and nothing happened overnight- regardless, that water trail in the picture leads directly to the basement drain, so I'm not super worried about flooding unless the whole tank blows open, which seems... unlikely.

Update: Plumbers came. Water coming into my house was 117 psi- so the PRV was functioning correctly. They just turned down the regulator and tested it again and now it's at 70 psi. Dumb fix, but now my mind is at peace.

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Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

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Laminate floor question: Our finished attic is just a subfloor right now. It’s not bad by any means but also not PERFECTLY even, some of the boards are off by about 1/16” at spots. How much of a hassle would it be to lay down snap-together laminate floor on top of a thin foam sheet layer? Do we have to meticulously go through and level out every board or is laminate pretty forgiving?

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