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norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

Konomex posted:


And I just struggle to wrap my head around their mental gymnastics. Because by contrast, when WA did our lockdown my story was 'I have no idea what other people have been doing because I only left my house to go straight to my job and back - or not at all.'

WA people I know pretty much avoid doing anything during lockdown.
We know it'll be over in a week if we do the right thing

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freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Laserface posted:

If Gladys came out tomorrow and announced a state wide lockdown for 2 weeks with the only things open being servos super markets and chemists and showed even the political version of admission of failure, It would go a loooong way. She's a human. A lovely LNP human, but a human all the same. Humans make mistakes. Accepting that you failed and learning from it is good. Pretending like you have the toughest lockdown of any state ever when you can still go to Bunnings and the reject shop and making the path out of lockdown the responsibility of the public and victim blaming people for not taking vaccines they can't loving get is pissing off everyone.

I actually am not against much of what she's currently doing - she at least closed the barn door after the horse bolted - but it's the rhetoric that shits me. I was driving on a rural road the other day when she said on the radio that "going in and out of lockdown like Victoria is no way to live" and I just about drove the car into a ditch. Own up and admit that you hosed it and should've locked down earlier instead of clinging to the failed strategy! Being right 9/10 times doesn't actually matter if the 1/10 time you get it wrong results in everyone being in lockdown for 4-5 months, with hundreds of deaths!

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

i think mcgowan got lucky in that the correct course of action was also what western australia as a whole had been chomping at the bit to do for the last 192 years anyway

In the same way that certain progressives criticise Australia's border closures, because they only have a hammer and everything looks like a nail even during the Unprecedented Global Pandemic, this opinion solidifies my theory that WA is the distilled and purest version of Australia in every conceivable way. Just replace McGowan with Morrison and WA with Australia.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
all Australians really want is Full Juche and we got it with West Australian Characteristics

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

i think mcgowan got lucky in that the correct course of action was also what western australia as a whole had been chomping at the bit to do for the last 192 years anyway

now hang on clive palmer isn't that old, but yea we all yearn to give him the finger.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


freebooter posted:

This though, I disagree with. Few Australians knew who McGowan was in 2019 but now he's the poster child for border closures - despite those closures being a) good and enviable, and b) no different from SA's and Tasmania's.

Yeah, but that awareness is basically because we're all aware of how the other states decisions affect us. Sure more people know McGowans name, but I doubt many have awareness of his policies inside WA beyond how they affect the state borders.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

i think mcgowan got lucky in that the correct course of action was also what western australia as a whole had been chomping at the bit to do for the last 192 years anyway

I’d assume WA has relatively few cross border communities too given the gigantic desert, compared to eastern states.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

JBP posted:

My dad is 1a and I care for him. They got me to sign a declaration but then I just took it home with me because the next station didn't ask for it lol. Really higgledy piggledy you could do whatever and get away with it.

Keep it to take to the second appt. I've heard you can be pressed about your eligibility at the second as well.

They didn't take my eligibility declaration either, though they did ask the onsite doctor to come over and verify my 'pre-existing medical condition' I was stating I had before they let me get the good juice.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

hambeet posted:

Keep it to take to the second appt. I've heard you can be pressed about your eligibility at the second as well.

They didn't take my eligibility declaration either, though they did ask the onsite doctor to come over and verify my 'pre-existing medical condition' I was stating I had before they let me get the good juice.

Being a Liberal Party member? guess this is what we get for pushing for holistic approach to mental and physical health. Swings and roundabouts.

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

RC Bandit posted:

Ok I'm starting to get annoyed that our government can't get their poo poo together as I'm STILL ineligible to get a vaccine (in Victoria).



I had this same issue even though I was eligible for AZ. Find a clinic that does vaccinations and book in there. Just check their online booking systems, if it lets you book an AZ jab then you should be good to go.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100353020

Not remotely surprising but still utterly disgusting.

When I was working at a bottle-o attached to a pub and pokies venue it was a common belief among staff (I can’t say for certain it was true because I never tried to find out)that the owners spent a good chunk of the money they are required to give use for charitable/social purposes from pokies revenue on subsidising pensioner meals at their own bistro.

To me the NSW model is an easy fix, just make the council committee the decision maker for where funds go instead of merely making recommendations to the venues.

Of course that doesn’t address the fact that they don’t seem to be actually putting any more money out of pokies, it’s just a diversion of what would otherwise be tax revenue.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

ClubsNSW is hosed because clubs in it are 'not for profit' but will also have like 200 pokies in what is classified as a 'small' club.

I worked for one of the club conglom's for a while and its pretty disgusting how much of the revenue gets spent on making the club bigger/better/generating more income to spend on itself.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...
I prefer WA's model, gently caress the pokies. All gambling is done in one hosed up uber corrupt resort, or allowed on one special day in regular pubs. Ignoring TABs of course.

I can't imagine what it's like having pokies scattered all over your state.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Konomex posted:

I prefer WA's model, gently caress the pokies. All gambling is done in one hosed up uber corrupt resort, or allowed on one special day in regular pubs. Ignoring TABs of course.

I can't imagine what it's like having pokies scattered all over your state.

Yeah, no pokies is pretty nice. Gives crown a bunch of money though. After this royal commission, hopefully they lose their licensed though. Some of this that's popping up is so blatantly criminal that I can't see how they will keep it.

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

The Peccadillo posted:

Long COVID gives them corruptive taste in music, too

:ohdear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENXvZ9YRjbo

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Not strictly AusPol stuff, but people are talking about it:

When Crown inevitably lose their Casino license, do we know who will pick it up?

Will they just buy the Casino building, slap on a "Under new management" sign and continue as normal? Or do they have to build their own Casino somewhere, and set up again from scratch?

Also whilst it is true and self evident that Pokies are an awful blight on society, and that gambling is bad, and the Casino is a horrible soul destroying place, (I worked there for 2 1/2 years so I have first hand evidence of it's horribleness). It does employ an army of people who are going to be hosed when Crown goes under. Just as that whole "entertainment complex" of restaurants/bars/shops etc will die and take the, (mostly casual and part time), workers with it.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

BrigadierSensible posted:

Not strictly AusPol stuff, but people are talking about it:

When Crown inevitably lose their Casino license, do we know who will pick it up?

Will they just buy the Casino building, slap on a "Under new management" sign and continue as normal? Or do they have to build their own Casino somewhere, and set up again from scratch?

Also whilst it is true and self evident that Pokies are an awful blight on society, and that gambling is bad, and the Casino is a horrible soul destroying place, (I worked there for 2 1/2 years so I have first hand evidence of it's horribleness). It does employ an army of people who are going to be hosed when Crown goes under. Just as that whole "entertainment complex" of restaurants/bars/shops etc will die and take the, (mostly casual and part time), workers with it.

I don't think they could kill Crown, I can imagine the government forcing them to sell it? I don't know. It's got the exclusive licence, maybe they're too big to fail?

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Why will Crown lose its licence?

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!

snoremac posted:

Why will Crown lose its licence?

The Victorian Government has announced a Royal Commission into their shady dealings, mostly a fuckton of money laundering, various scandals involving flying people out from China to gamble, bribing the government to ignore said flights from China, ect, ect.

The NSW subsidary of Crown has already had it's gaming license revoked, so Crown Melbourne will probably have theirs revoked in due course, so some other Casino company will probably swoop in, buy the holding company and then it'll go back to business as usual.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

snoremac posted:

Why will Crown lose its licence?

Crown perth had a bank account that they didnt know about, but organised crime groups did, and used it to launder untold amounts of money. When they were informed about this, Crown perth did exactly nothing to stop it.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Cool to hear Gladys finally say the quiet part loud today - 'we might just have to learn to live with delta'

get fuuuuuucked.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Ah okay. Nor surprising, but surprising they might get in trouble.

I'm curious, is it illegal for casinos to lavish gamblers they hope to squeeze of cash with flights, luxuries etc? I thought it was a common thing they did with richer folk.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Get your LETERIP date guesses in. Before it's too late.

hooman fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Aug 6, 2021

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer

Laserface posted:

Cool to hear Gladys finally say the quiet part loud today - 'we might just have to learn to live with delta'

get fuuuuuucked.

Could this be a way of saying "there will be more lockdowns and you'll be wearing masks for ages" rather than "letterrip"?

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


hooman posted:

Get your LETERIP date guesses in. Before it's too late.



loosening lockdown restrictions by september 15th, optimistically gloating about vaccination numbers by oct 15th

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
https://twitter.com/DuckHonkin/status/1423502181655736320

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
The following public health announcement was paid for by the Victorian Government

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJtAxsjK/

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!

snoremac posted:

Ah okay. Nor surprising, but surprising they might get in trouble.

I'm curious, is it illegal for casinos to lavish gamblers they hope to squeeze of cash with flights, luxuries etc? I thought it was a common thing they did with richer folk.

It's not illegal, except they were bringing in gamblers who have known links to organized crime, and were pretty much just letting them launder money freely so long as the Casino got their cut. The other issue was Crown was exploiting a Howard era scheme to fast track the gamblers visas provided that Crown did all the background checks and a lot of the paperwork so Immigration could just rubber stamp things. Of course, Crown did zero background checks and just let anyone in so long as Crown was making money.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...
I'll just put this headline here:

Chief casino officer Michael Connolly (the man who oversees the Casino operations) went on fishing trips in a boat called 'The Good Ship Compliance' with Crown executives.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

Solemn Sloth posted:

The following public health announcement was paid for by the Victorian Government

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJtAxsjK/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnBtOPUMyqU

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Disappointed that angry Anderson would sell out to the scamdemic profiteers

PotatoManJack
Nov 9, 2009
Well, I'm now fully vaccinated as of yesterday. Was feeling fine just after the 2nd Pfizer vaccine if a bit tired, but then overnight things got rough. First had night sweats and then chills throughout the night. Woke up this morning with a pounding headache and achy joints. It honestly feels like I've gone through the symptoms of the flu in a 24hr period.

Kinda sucked, but being fully Vacc'ed does feel great.

e: Woops - typo on number of vax!

PotatoManJack fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Aug 6, 2021

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

PotatoManJack posted:

Was feeling fine just after the 22nd Pfizer vaccine

Woah slow down there champ, leave some for the rest of us

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

quote:

I was able to intercept an entire pallet of Pfizers first vaccine shipment. 4000 doses at 2 shots per dose. I've got it stored in a chest freezer in my garage. Ive been injecting myself every day, sometimes multiple times a day if I can stand it. The symptoms were terrible for the first few weeks. There were times I was completely paralyzed with pain, contorted like the Edvard munch painting and frozen in agony for hours. I became stronger and some of the worst symptoms subsided over time. I've been vaxmaxxing for almost 4 months now and I feel as though I'm becoming something greater than human now. I will continue to administer the injections into the same arm as long as possible. I'm increasing the dosages as much as I can stand and will maintain my journal.

commie kong
Mar 7, 2019

Crown got done for “cuckoo smurfing”

Lol

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/crown-admits-criminals-likely-laundered-cash-through-casino-accounts-20201118-p56fm6.html

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

I just booked my vaxx. First will be on the 17/09 and the booster 3 weeks later :/

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Budzilla posted:

I just booked my vaxx. First will be on the 17/09 and the booster 3 weeks later :/

Yeah, slightly earlier but still amazingly late. gently caress a duck, I'm never leaving the house.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
29 cases none of whom were isolating in their infectious period, just loving grand

Cpt Soban
Jul 23, 2011
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-04/nsw-records-233-covid19-cases/100348094


quote:

Of the new cases reported yesterday, 47 were infectious in the community and 21 were in isolation for only part of their infectious period.
There continues to be a regular daily occurrence of at least half the new cases being "infectious in the community". Yet we're also told NSW has the "hardest lockdown in the country".
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/case-locations-and-alerts.aspx
Yet scrolling through the list I'm seeing places like Supre and an Apple store being open.
It boggles the mind.

Cpt Soban fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Aug 15, 2021

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Number go up!

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Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Cpt Soban posted:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-04/nsw-records-233-covid19-cases/100348094

There continues to be a regular daily occurrence of at least half the new cases being "infectious in the community". Yet we're also told NSW has the "hardest lockdown in the country".

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/case-locations-and-alerts.aspx

Yet scrolling through the list I'm seeing places like Supre and an Apple store being open.

It boggles the mind.

It's a bald faced lie. It is a weaksauce lockdown. The fact their CHO is now calling for a 'snap lockdown' boggles the mind, how do you snap lockdown from "the hardest lockdown in Australia". You don't. Even Kiwi's are looking at NSW now and scratching their heads at the stupidity.

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