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StrixNebulosa posted:If they're grey market, then none of them are "less-shady". They're all selling stolen keys. At this point please pirate it, or else hold your nose and get the expensive version. Either way, I get these are all still eBay-for-keys and so the origins are dubious. But are any of the actual sites themselves any better than the others? Or is it that simply due to the dubious nature of the goods they deal with they're all equally poo poo? I mean, sure, the $10 isn't worth it if it's a lovely experience all around. I just figured there might be some merit to these places with the idea that people might have extra Steam keys from past sales or Humble bundles or whatever lying around.
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Calling them all stolen is just hyperbole. But it is a free-for-all market, so you never know exactly where the keys come from. They might be stolen, they might be from some 10 year old bundles, they might be from a country where prices are much lower than USA/Western Europe, they might be from some "gaming site" that begged the devs for free keys. That being said, I've used some of those grey key sites now and then, and the only time I've had trouble with keys was when some dev mistakenly revoked keys that were in a legit five year old Fanatical bundle ymgve fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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Aug 5, 2021 14:39
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In my day you used to do the legwork to steal the game yourself. Kids these days are shameful, just paying someone else to steal for you.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Are they really all stolen? Like, I get the $30 key for Mass Effect LE which just came out and has only been on sale in limited capacity for $45--that key is from a stolen CC purchase no doubt. But for a five year old game that did go on sale officially in the same price range multiple times? They sell stolen credit card purchases; that's their business model. If you have to squint and think "maaaaybe, this one particular one... could have been purchased legally?" that's called rationalization. It fell off the back of a truck, totally legitimate sale, amirite? You're either ok with buying stolen goods and/or supporting the local career grifter, or you don't buy from them. Just go pirate it if you can't afford it, many devs say they'd prefer it.
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Alright, well, since nobody has ever had anything good to say about keystores it sounds like I should just avoid them entirely.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Alright, well, since nobody has ever had anything good to say about keystores it sounds like I should just avoid them entirely. unless you're buying from scumbag devs and don't want to deal w the hassle of piracy.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Are they really all stolen? Like, I get the $30 key for Mass Effect LE which just came out and has only been on sale in limited capacity for $45--that key is from a stolen CC purchase no doubt. But for a five year old game that did go on sale officially in the same price range multiple times? Enough keys from G2A are stolen and end up getting chargebacked by the original credit card owner that they have a policy of not even refunding you if it happens unless you pay extra for some kinda "insurance" plan.
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Greenman Gaming and Gamers Gate are legit and at times still cheaper than directly buying off steam. Just stick with them so you aren’t funding the Russian mafia and also so you don’t one day down the line get your game revoked
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Alright, well, since nobody has ever had anything good to say about keystores it sounds like I should just avoid them entirely. Avoid sites like G2A yeah, though they aren't literally all stolen keys. It's generally fine to get poo poo that's been in a Humble Bundle for example, since a lot of people just sell their unused keys there.
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Fights in Tight Spaces is dropping another patch, sourced from their discord.quote:Another big content update, and this month it's the turn of The Insiders, expect new enemies and new prison environments to fight in. We've also bumped up your defensive options with a new Dodge system, and Conditioning cards to super charge your Block decks. There's also some cracking new music to enjoy! 
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StrixNebulosa posted:Fights in Tight Spaces is dropping another patch, sourced from their discord. This all looks really promising. I bought this and loved it but decided to forget about it for a while while they work on it and I love seeing it come along like this.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Keyshops: Are any of them slightly-less shady than others, or any that I should definitely avoid? I mean, they are online digital marketplaces so yeah like everyone said there is scummy behavior going on there including key purchases with stolen credit card numbers, there was a big thing with Ubisoft games getting shut down on UPlay a while back because they were keys purchased fraudulently. That can be true true whenever you are buying from the secondary market regardless of what the product is, to be honest. Think about it like buying something on craigslist. I also don't believe that ALL codes on there are from stolen credit cards, that's just a bit much, but it definitely happens. It's hard to say what the exact ratio is, no one knows that. Most likely the newer and more expensive the game, the more likely it was purchased fraudulently. In any case if you are concerned about protecting yourself I'd go with G2A, Kinguin and Eneba are crap, they're sketchier as you can tell from the even lower prices and their customer service is not good. With G2A at least you are pretty much guaranteed to get what you paid for.
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I've bought keys through most sites listed on isthereanydeal. Haven't had an issue yet.
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bees x1000 posted:I've bought keys through most sites listed on isthereanydeal. Haven't had an issue yet. If it's on isthereanydeal, it's a legit site
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/ https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/811320/view/2994316817012521380 Jupiter Hell has left Early Access! Roguelike thread thinks it's cool, and I do too. It's made by the folks who made the DoomRL (one of the best) and it's pretty cool if you like turn-based demon slaying.
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explosivo posted:This all looks really promising. I bought this and loved it but decided to forget about it for a while while they work on it and I love seeing it come along like this. literally my exact early access experience with all my favorite games
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StrixNebulosa posted:https://store.steampowered.com/app/811320/Jupiter_Hell/ Buy it buy it buy it buy it. Then buy it again.
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Jupiter Hell is on sale on Humble Store for 32% off (if you have Humble Choice). I think the discount is the same as Steam without Choice. https://www.humblebundle.com/store/jupiter-hell Grabbed myself and a good bud a copy.
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All this key chat reminds me of the original Prey, where somehow they literally ran out of keys to sell. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/prey-2006-review quote:Prey is genuinely not available anywhere, with even eBay copies mostly listed as having spent their Steam code. You will find it via key resellers, but whether you're willing to support them is up to you. Prey 2006 is certainly not the game to drive you toward a decision. https://kotaku.com/steam-sold-out-of-prey-please-try-again-later-5436298 quote:2K's futuristic alien shooter Prey was part of the ongoing Steam end-of-the-year sale, until they ran out. That's right, Steam is completely sold out of a downloadable title, running out of keys for the game before the sale could run its course. How does this happen? Well this is speculation, but I would assume a game like Prey requires some sort of CD key, which are generated by the company selling it on Steam, and there is a finite number of them available.
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Shout out to Zaphiel who sent me some trading cards, but I used the market so don't need them any more! They are a legend, and I feel bad for turning them down.
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Here’s an Elden Ring Steam page on this random Thursday night.
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Holy poo poo, they added the 360 version of Skate 3 as an Xbox Cloud streaming title and it's incredible. The streamed video works will with 360 games because the graphics are already crunchy, but the controls are really snappy and I feel like I could definitely play through this whole game this way. I played so much of this back in the Goonskate days.. ah man this rules 
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explosivo posted:Holy poo poo, they added the 360 version of Skate 3 as an Xbox Cloud streaming title and it's incredible. The streamed video works will with 360 games because the graphics are already crunchy, but the controls are really snappy and I feel like I could definitely play through this whole game this way. I played so much of this back in the Goonskate days.. ah man this rules Goonskate days? What's that? I love skateboarding. And skateboarding video games
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pentyne posted:All this key chat reminds me of the original Prey, where somehow they literally ran out of keys to sell. This is “we don’t care enough to make more” more than anything else.
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Play posted:Goonskate days? What's that? There's a fairly robust video editing tool in the game that lets you film lines from different angles, and there was a contingency of goons playing Skate 3 and making/sharing videos. Then someone made a site called goonskate that listed everyone's entries and allowed people to vote and stuff. It was fun trying to make "realistic" looking lines that aren't flashy impossible videogame stuff. People tended to think Skate 3 was the worst in the series but I happened to love it. If you haven't played it before I highly recommend checking it out if you like skateboard games. E: goddamn these are funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Qag7qf3MU explosivo fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Aug 6, 2021 |
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I've heard a lot about it but I don't have a console to play it on unfortunately! I do really enjoy Skater XL and Session which were some recent more indie attempts at the genre. And getting a nice line, then using the video editor to film it exactly like a real line would be, is awesome in Skater XL and what I spent most of my time doing. I think I remember seeing something about them starting work on a new Skate game? Oh yeah it was in that recent showcase, can't remember which one.
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Play posted:I've heard a lot about it but I don't have a console to play it on unfortunately! You can stream it on PC now through the Xbox Play streaming service you get with the ultimate gamepass. I don't have any consoles anymore which is why I'm so stoked that I can finally play this game again 
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That rocks, is it capped at 30fps though? I can't think of any single game in recent memory that I've been as stoked for as I am for skate 4, the 360 games were big in my friend group back in the day. Only a Prototype 3 release could top it for me right now
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explosivo posted:There's a fairly robust video editing tool in the game that lets you film lines from different angles, and there was a contingency of goons playing Skate 3 and making/sharing videos. Then someone made a site called goonskate that listed everyone's entries and allowed people to vote and stuff. One of the worst parts about this dead forum dying is losing the cool community projects generated from the mass of people playing <thing>. Feels like this stuff doesn't happen nearly as often anymore.
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doctorthefonz posted:That rocks, is it capped at 30fps though? Yeah it's basically streaming the game being played as a backwards compatible title on a modern console so it's just the 360 game you're getting here with no uprezzing or anything like that.
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Ah well, it'll still be cool to revisit I'm sure, gonna give it a shot tomorrow I reckon
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I just loaded up Skate 3 and it feels fine to play on Xcloud, surprised at how easy it was to deal with the little bit of input lag.
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If you care to play games on Epic Games store A Plague Tale is free on there right now. It's a good game.
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I recognized this game because at one point a goon posted in some thread in Games asking if anyone remembered the name of "that post apocalyptic meat game", but post-apocalyptic meat game Death Trash came out in EA today and it's good: https://store.steampowered.com/app/941460/Death_Trash/ It's an ARPG homage to oldschool Fallout with the familiar dodge-and-manage-stamina combat system we're all so used to these days, also with guns and light crafting elements. The gimmick is that this post-apocalyptic world is infected with flesh. Just big heaping mounds of meat springing up out of the ground everywhere, and in some places becoming animated and turning into monsters. You play as a mysterious entity who was kicked out of the underground habitat you were in (i.e. Vault) for being 'infected' and you need to figure out what the hell you're infected with. Beyond that your first side quest is to find friends for a lonely Flesh Kraken pictured in the first screenshot below. Some elements are inspired by *Souls but Death Trash is impressively not trying to ape *Souls overall, it's actually a pretty interesting mashup of Fallout and *Souls that doesn't feel like a clone of either one. There's text and dialog and letters/books/etc with lore in them but not as much as a straight up RPG like Fallout.    I'm about an hour in and so far it's good. There's an overworld map and then zone maps like in Fallout, and if you die you just restart from the beginning of the zone map that you're in without losing resources so it maintains a bit of the "keep re-trying it until you nail the whole run" feel of Souls games without being the same old bonfire-to-bonfire romp. The combat felt too easy at first but then ranged enemies started showing up, then showing up in groups and it got more hectic. I hear there are about 2 hours of main story content right now and another ~3+ of side quests and this is allegedly about 1/4 the length of the full game. You can focus your build around melee, guns, occult magic, or cybertech magic, there's also a stat called Empathy which opens up special dialog options, and skills like Animalism to capture/interact with I'm pretty happy with EA in this case meaning "feature complete and just needs later chapters added" rather than a barely functioning prototype like today's other release Starmancer turned out to be  It's pretty aesthetically crude, and not just the visuals - there's a dedicated puke button for example and another early quest is about helping someone get some emesis-inducing berries so he can win a competition with someone else to see who can puke more  But it's not offensively in-your-face about it. It tries to be humorous in the same way Fallout was - like it's not throwing jokes at you constantly but there's a consistent, recurring theme of just going "heh, oh yeah, that's what this world is like" and while I wouldn't exactly call it a 'funny' game, so far there's nothing I've seen that has just really not stuck.e: I bought it on EGS because when I searched on Steam it didn't come up - turns out that was because I set Steam to stop showing me porn games, and this game is tagged as nudity & sexual content because of the naked man you can see in one of the screenshots in this post  But I just found out it's on Steam too so I edited the link in my post seeing as this is the Steam thread
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Aug 6, 2021 05:47
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Really liking Splitgate. Some of the maps aren't great but the portals make you feel like a galaxy brain and it's a blast to play.
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explosivo posted:There's a fairly robust video editing tool in the game that lets you film lines from different angles, and there was a contingency of goons playing Skate 3 and making/sharing videos. Then someone made a site called goonskate that listed everyone's entries and allowed people to vote and stuff. It was fun trying to make "realistic" looking lines that aren't flashy impossible videogame stuff. Is there any particular reason people thought Skate 3 was the worst? I love the game and played it so much but didn't really touch the rest of the series. Also that "slam dunk" in the video was top notch
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Has anyone tried Dreamscaper? I am curious about it and hear good things. I also tried Jupiter Hell, and while it is certainly really well made and well worth trying, it isn't quite doing it for me.
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Unlucky7 posted:Has anyone tried Dreamscaper? I am curious about it and hear good things. I bought it, and have gotten to the fourth stage. It's OK. Pretty, decent controls and game flow, seems to have a fair amount of variance in weapons and skills, but I haven't been quite blown away by it yet.
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