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Apple is now selling the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID for Apple Silicon as a standalone part.. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2C3LL/A/magic-keyboard-with-touch-id-and-numeric-keypad-for-mac-models-with-apple-silicon-us-english/ This is the one with the numpad and costs $179, the one without is $149. Only the silver/white one is offered- If you want the colored ones, Apple says gently caress you buy a new Mac if you want the appropriate color. Interesting how they literally point out it's only for M1 Macs and not Intels, and needs Big Sur 11.4 at the minimum..
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Binary Badger posted:Interesting how they literally point out it's only for M1 Macs and not Intels, and needs Big Sur 11.4 at the minimum.. it's because it uses the secure enclave i assume theoretically i guess they could have enabled support for intel macs that have a t2 but i figure they were like lolwhy kind of dumb not to sell the coloured keyboards separately though imo. also i get the design and wanting to save costs on the boards but i think it's dumb not to have the sensor on the right most key on the extended keyboard
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mediaphage posted:theoretically i guess they could have enabled support for intel macs that have a t2 but i figure they were like lolwhy You'd think that the process to communicate with the T2 is CPU-independent, but most likely yeah they want to focus on M1 and forget they ever sold Intel based Macs, it was that way with PPC so why should this transition be any different quote:kind of dumb not to sell the coloured keyboards separately though imo. Some of the websites claim this is due to the general chip shortage though it's an LOL to think someone's not gonna be able to buy a RAV4 because I bought this Magic Keyboard that I'm only gonna use half the time. quote:also i get the design and wanting to save costs on the boards but i think it's dumb not to have the sensor on the right most key on the extended keyboard It's gonna take a while to get used to that spot too..
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Binary Badger posted:Some of the websites claim this is due to the general chip shortage though it's an LOL to think someone's not gonna be able to buy a RAV4 because I bought this Magic Keyboard that I'm only gonna use half the time. But the shortage is on chips not aluminum let alone paint… /s It’s just nickel and diming. They want people with iMac and busted keyboards to pay the apple stand toll.
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I am so tempted on the Touch ID keyboard, I can never seem to get my watch to reliably unlock my M1 Mini.
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Three Olives posted:I am so tempted on the Touch ID keyboard, I can never seem to get my watch to reliably unlock my M1 Mini. Lol
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Oh my God lol
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I would say that 3O has evolved from “Forums Pat” to “Forums Mr Dink” but IIRC the Dinks tolerated kids
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Three Olives posted:I am so tempted on the Touch ID keyboard, I can never seem to get my watch to reliably unlock my M1 Mini. This guy gets it. He understands the ecosystem
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serebralassazin posted:Did we just get a new thread title? nope, and I hope not. I’m v proud of that Gorillaz reference
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Is there actually a noticeable difference between the 7 and 8 core GPU in the M1 Airs? I'm tossing up between 16GB RAM and 512GB Storage.
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q for people here -- my wife suddenly has a need for a new computer that can handle heavy-duty excel files (e.g., thousands of rows). she's most familiar with macs, do the m1 MBPs run excel just fine? should she basically just be optimizing for ram?
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Aug 6, 2021 02:08
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Jay-V posted:q for people here -- Yes, totally. Yes. Worst case scenario (extremely unlikely), y’all can always return it at the Apple Store
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Aug 6, 2021 02:54
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Jay-V posted:q for people here --
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Apple Macintosh: Competently Handling Microsoft Excel since 1986
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Jay-V posted:q for people here -- If she’s already using excel on Mac it will work great. I have some work excel files that only works on windows because of crazy macro code and they still ran decent on x86 excel, on windows 10 arm, on parallels, on macOS.
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Perplx posted:If she’s already using excel on Mac it will work great. I have some work excel files that only works on windows because of crazy macro code and they still ran decent on x86 excel, on windows 10 arm, on parallels, on macOS. but what if the excel files are really big 
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Only issue I’ve ran into with excel is that complex goal-seeking/solver operations take a while to go through a large batch compared to my old i5. Could be something else, though, it’s not like my excel work is ever standardized. Sometimes I have to do a couple thousand iterations, sometimes I do a couple hundred iterations. Outside of that it handles absurdly huge docs like a champ. Like I did some work on a 1900 row table today and it had zero problems, slowdowns, or issues.
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I work with a lot of gigantic spreadsheets and using macros to process data for work, there's about a million things before your laptop's processor that are gonna be the limiting factor for using excel. If the VBA is poorly written and unoptimized, which is incredibly common, it's going to show on any laptop regardless of the processor.
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ok awesome, good to know for sure!! figured they would have been looking at that before declaring the m1 fastest chip ever but wanted to confirm
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Jay-V posted:q for people here -- Is she going to be working with workbooks that use the Excel data model for imported data? That’s still PC-only.
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beefnoodle posted:Is she going to be working with workbooks that use the Excel data model for imported data? That’s still PC-only. Op should doublecheck to make sure that Mac Excel does what his wife needs it to do.
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Heavy excel use is sadly a time I’ll still recommend a Windows machine (whether bootcamp’d or native) over the native macOS version. Just too many factors at play. But there is a big difference between regular (ie the 1900 rows in the example earlier) and heavy (hundreds of thousands of rows, tons of embedded VB etc).
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FMguru posted:Yeah, the Mac Office programs are not as fully featured as the Windows (or even web) versions. Lack of VBA is another big difference between Mac/PC. VBA is on Mac office there's just from small weird quirks that separate it from Windows VBA iirc
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well why not posted:Is there actually a noticeable difference between the 7 and 8 core GPU in the M1 Airs? I'm tossing up between 16GB RAM and 512GB Storage. Not really, it's like a 12% performance difference if you're running all GPU cores full tilt.
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I'd be curious if a 7 core Air with $5 of thermal padding would end up faster than the 8 core without it.
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I got the base model M1 Air that was on sale at Best Buy the other week for like $800 and it seems really nice so far. My first Mac after using iphones and ipads for a while. I don't really use the ipad much anymore and figured this would be a good option to have. It's really fast and the battery seems to last forever.
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BlackMK4 posted:I'd be curious if a 7 core Air with $5 of thermal padding would end up faster than the 8 core without it. why don’t they do this already - so the bottom doesn’t get unreasonably hot?
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Generic Monk posted:why don’t they do this already - so the bottom doesn’t get unreasonably hot? yes, people are modding them and it can get the bottom very hot
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Generic Monk posted:why don’t they do this already - so the bottom doesn’t get unreasonably hot? Same reason that VW, Audi and Porsche models using the same chassis and engine are conveniently provided in increasing 10hp increments
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mediaphage posted:yes, people are modding them and it can get the bottom very hot yeah, here's a good video from of all places ltt about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghDvyItIHTY
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italian quid posted:Same reason that VW, Audi and Porsche models using the same chassis and engine are conveniently provided in increasing 10hp increments This analogy doesn't work because these aren't in any way the same chassis designs (some have cooling fans, some do not!) and there are no known artificial performance limiters. All M1 systems seem to run with no limits while cold. As the chip heats up, all will dial back clocks to keep M1 temp under the rated operating limit (which Apple doesn't publish, but experimentally seems to be somewhere around 90-100C iirc, a figure which is in line with other similar chips). This is why MacBook Air cooling mods need no software hacks: improve the factory cooling solution enough, and you automatically get the same sustained performance as fan-haver models. (As others have noted, the mod has a human comfort and safety cost, so it's not too surprising Apple doesn't ship them that way from the factory.)
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limaCAT posted:Dear diary, today I found myself wishing the gestures over the magic mouse behaved like a trackpad because I didn't want to move the hand to move the mouse. I've never understood why you can't pinch with two fingers on a magic mouse.
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Ziploc posted:I've never understood why you can't pinch with two fingers on a magic mouse. Sure you could probably do this with BetterTouchTool
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Ziploc posted:I've never understood why you can't pinch with two fingers on a magic mouse. Because Jony has fat fingers and he'd rather you did that on a Tragic Trackpad
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Binary Badger posted:Because Jony has fat fingers and he'd rather you did that on a Tragic Macpad
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~Coxy posted:Thanks very much, that's perfect. Just a reminder that it’s REGISTERED ECC. What’s the spec you need? I think I have 16gb I yanked out of my 3,1 but it’s only 1600mhz probably.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Heavy excel use is sadly a time I’ll still recommend a Windows machine (whether bootcamp’d or native) over the native macOS version. Just too many factors at play. I haven't tested in years, but it used to be comical how much faster OpenOffice was on Mac compared to Microsoft Office.
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Bob Morales posted:I haven't tested in years, but it used to be comical how much faster OpenOffice was on Mac compared to Microsoft Office.
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