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2house2fly posted:TSS was a fun ride overall, some neat visuals pretty much balanced out the humour overegging the pudding and some edgy poo poo that rubbed me the wrong way, like polkadot man feeling good for the first time in his life and immediately getting killed. Haha, you're a joke character, you've got no business experiencing catharsis or getting an unironic heroic moment. Lol. haven't seen the movie but that part was telegraphed in the first trailer. Or you know the name James Gunn being on screen at any point
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Daduzi posted:I do love how consistently this thread maintains its noble tradition of being the "wrong opinions about punchman films" thread. There isn't a thread consensus tho?
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No no, let him gently caress ON, I say maybe they'll reveal which ones are good/bad and we can discuss comic book movies and maybe even learn something and/or have a laugh!
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Roth posted:I feel really disappointed with The Suicide Squad, but Rat Catcher 2 was good. Expand on this, I'm curious. The movie was pretty anti American and cynical, I thought.
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This one is especially tough because I can't even really come to a consensus within my own opinion enough to declare it good or bad. It's a mixed bag of a movie.
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Very surprised at the mixed reactions in this thread I thought it was a blast. Definitely at the tops of any DC superhero movie list. John Cena was a riot. It was so over the top that you couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity. As mentioned, the opening scene with the initial crew all getting hosed up while Savant just looks on in horror was loving hilarious. TDK's arms slowly moving through the air and then ... lightly slapping the bad guys was hilarious! The action scene where the squad has a dick measuring contest while killing the obvious freedom fighters was really well done too, it wasn't just mindless since it continued the peacemaker/bloodsport rivalry and it was really hosed up! Little things like Peacemaker just robotically axing a sleeping guy through his blanket was great. There was lots of little stuff like that which made the movie great. Like at the beginning where Blackguard is pretending to go for his gun in front of the guard. Just nice little character beats that are humorous. I am sad that Flagg ended up dead though, as I guess this means there likely won't be another one of these until it gets rebooted? Was also surprised that Boomerang got so rekt in the opening beach scene as well, poor Jai Courtney.
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Suicide Squad was fun as heck. Nice to see Elba get roles where he gets to act more than just look. Watch tv on your watch??
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Daduzi posted:I do love how consistently this thread maintains its noble tradition of being the "wrong opinions about punchman films" thread. Based on your reg date you are presumably in your thirties. You've somehow managed to find yourself paying ten bucks to admonish a bunch of strangers about their taste in comic book blockbusters in an obscure internet forum. Hmm.
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I got annoyed at Bloodsport saying "you remind me of my daughter" to Ratcatcher. I mean cmon screenwriters have some self respect.
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Why do people continuously say "Flagg" when the character's name is Flag? It's been that way for, like, six decades. Is it because of the USS Flagg GI Joe toy or something?
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Necrothatcher posted:I got annoyed at Bloodsport saying "you remind me of my daughter" to Ratcatcher. I mean cmon screenwriters have some self respect. Same with repeatedly explaining out loud that Peacemaker's name is actually ironic.
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The thread seems more evenly divided on this than any movie for awhile, so I don't know what "wrong" position that would even refer to. Fits into a long tradition of bemoaning "the thread" or "goons", ignoring the fact that as soon as you registered and started posting you became a "goon" and part of "the thread".Timby posted:Why do people continuously say "Flagg" when the character's name is Flag? It's been that way for, like, six decades. Is it because of the USS Flagg GI Joe toy or something? Remembering the actual interesting character Randall Flagg
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Darko posted:Expand on this, I'm curious. The movie was pretty anti American and cynical, I thought. I could be off base with my read but the way I see it is that despite opposing an apparent fascist regime that the US was allied with, the military coup is depicted as apolitical and even eviler while the freedom fighters are trying to instate democracy. It brings to mind depictions of Middle East terrorists as generic evil bad guys with no understanding of why they do the things they do. I also really did not like that it felt like a good amount of the jokes revolve around horribly killing brown people, including one where they murder an entire village of people based on misinformation, and the pay off is just a joke that's never brought up again. I also found the solutions to the problems to be very typical. Waller is gone, except Task Force X and the system that led to it is still around, alive and kicking, and everything on the island will be ok now because there's a vague promise of democracy I don't find it as bad as the really bad stuff in Black Panther or Captain Marvel, but the whole felt really off to me.
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Timby posted:Why do people continuously say "Flagg" when the character's name is Flag? It's been that way for, like, six decades. Is it because of the USS Flagg GI Joe toy or something? It's just a better name, and hopefully some day the comics will catch up with this fact.
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Suicide Squad 2 is undeniably well-made and astonishingly banal. The whole thing is exclusively focused on the question of whether violence is good or bad, which is already a red flag, and then the moral is literally just 'don't kill children'. It's repeated like twenty-five times, and underlined by how all the characters are some species of manchild. So if you want to watch a two-hour movie about how child death is bad, but violence done to prevent child death is good, this could be your favorite movie of all time.
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Timby posted:Why do people continuously say "Flagg" when the character's name is Flag? It's been that way for, like, six decades. Is it because of the USS Flagg GI Joe toy or something? They are thinking of Chaykin's American Flagg! SuperMechagodzilla posted:Suicide Squad 2 is undeniably well-made and astonishingly banal. You can just watch Tropic Thunder here or the fabulous Rambo 4: John Rambo
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As the resident ultimate Gunn fan I really enjoyed but didn’t love it as much as I wanted too only because I don’t think the heart was there, but what was there was a full cathartic gently caress it lets go for it and have fun feeling that was also cool. So slightly disappointed, but also counter acted with being happy that I got to see that classic Gunn again.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They are thinking of Chaykin's American Flagg! I need to rewatch Tropic Thunder, I haven't seen it in an age At least five or six years. I feel like its going to hold up though
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Burkion posted:I need to rewatch Tropic Thunder, I haven't seen it in an age Do you?
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I still love it, and think it holds up pretty well. The target is so specific and half that poo poo they rag on still happens. We got that weird Sia Music film last year ffs! 
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Roth posted:I could be off base with my read but the way I see it is that despite opposing an apparent fascist regime that the US was allied with, the military coup is depicted as apolitical and even eviler while the freedom fighters are trying to instate democracy. It brings to mind depictions of Middle East terrorists as generic evil bad guys with no understanding of why they do the things they do. I think a lot of this is that Gunn is generally really cynical in his films (which Disney doesn't really allow), so some things are just dark for the sake of being dark. It's not embracing those things as much as saying, "yeah, this sucks."
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2house2fly posted:TSS was a fun ride overall, some neat visuals pretty much balanced out the humour overegging the pudding and some edgy poo poo that rubbed me the wrong way, like polkadot man feeling good for the first time in his life and immediately getting killed. Haha, you're a joke character, you've got no business experiencing catharsis or getting an unironic heroic moment. Lol. Ratcatcher 2 didn't find it very funny.
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There was def Snyder influence with how few small scenes were shot and one song choice in TSS. It isn't the same version of the song from Dawn of the Dead but not surprised since Gunn also worked on that. You could also tell the studio demanded Gunn make this one more colorful than Ayer's Suicide Squad.
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Spacebump posted:There was def Snyder influence with how few small scenes were shot and one song choice in TSS. It isn't the same version of the song from Dawn of the Dead but not surprised since Gunn also worked on that. It was less colorful than the two Guardians of the Galaxy movies so demanding probably wasn't necessary.
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I'll be honest I've been a fan of James Gunn's work over the years but I feel like maybe I'm burned out on his brand of comedy. It got better in the second half but especially in the first half I was rolling my eyes a lot and a lot of the jokes were just grating to me.
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One thing I'm curious about is that it's set on a tropical island, and was filmed in Puerto Rico and Panama, but is coded as Argentina with the Mafalda keychain and fernet, as well as the Nazi stuff to a lesser degree. Was it just dumb gringo mixing and matching or was there more to it than that for Gunn?
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Basebf555 posted:I'll be honest I've been a fan of James Gunn's work over the years but I feel like maybe I'm burned out on his brand of comedy. It got better in the second half but especially in the first half I was rolling my eyes a lot and a lot of the jokes were just grating to me. Yeah, I was hoping the jokes would be funnier than the ones from the trailer, but they really weren't. Some sight gags worked though, and actors like Robbie, Dastmalchian and Capaldi are good enough to generally make their characters funny.
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It would’ve been funnier if Polka Dot Man survived and became the biggest hero of the entire movie
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grieving for Gandalf posted:it took them literal decades but they finally made a good one of these. good on them Agreed, movie was rad.
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They also completely abandon the “Suicide Squad” concept shortly after the opening credits, so that’s kinda weird. It’s a plot device to get all these man-children onto the same island but, once they’re there, they immediately sympathize with the rebels and nobody needs to be coerced into doing anything. The exception is Idris Elba’s character, who isn’t threatened with being suicided but by having his daughter killed. But I guess “The ‘They’ll Kill Our Families’ Squad” doesn’t have the same ring. Ultimately, Ayers’ film was way more transgressive because he was pushing the limits of a PG-13. Like, Diablo was a gangster who killed his own family. In this one, two of the squad are in it for fuckin’ bank robbery, and I don’t recall if they even mentioned what anyone else did. Like, maybe they got Polkadot-Man on marijuana possession. And the cartoon gore has a real comfort-blanket effect.
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I did enjoy, well enjoy isn’t the right word, I don’t know what is. Appreciated? No. Anyway… when a super hero action movie has the good (bad) guys kill actual people and not waves of cgi trash mobs it’s better. It went against the usual norm where you kill the cgi trash mobs to level up to fight the main real person boss (still usually heavily cgi’d, to killing people to get to the main cgi boss.
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The Suicide Squad's definitely a fun time. It's not a perfect movie, but it was much better than the usual DC comic book movies. I enjoyed Bloodsport's gimmick every time I saw it too. It's a bit heavy handed at times, but ultimately it told a fun story and it looked very pretty doing it.
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The suicide squad proves that James Gunn only has one idea and one idea only. It’s basically a rated R guardians of the galaxy down to the Shark basically being Groot. It’s very dull and not even that funny. I appreciated the gore though. But man you can feel Will Smith’s absence in this so hard E: seems like this movie was tailor made to win over MCU fans because of how goofy and colorful it is or whatever. The same praise this movie is getting and how it’s finally “a good DC” movie is the same poo poo that was said about Shazam. Guess people forgot about shazam The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Aug 6, 2021 |
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They finally got around to reviving the Chronicle sequel. - Trank not involved (no surprise there). - Set 10 years after the end of the previous movie and will have three female protagonists. - Plot will revolve around the cover ups, fake news, and impact on the world caused by the events of the first movie. - New group will get powers somehow. - Max Landis' script was thrown out and they started from scratch. https://www.ign.com/articles/chronicle-sequel-in-the-works-with-female-lead
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i had fun watching suicide squad, but it does feel very much like gunn had a really strong vision for the idea of the first team's fate, and everything that came afterwards didn't have quite the same style to it. I think there's a lot you could've snipped out of the script and in editing that would've made this a tighter package, but I think a lot of the rougher dialogue feels like the script was made before nailing down all the characters, and they had to get it done -quick-. On the comic book movie scale, it's a fun evening, but it's still not better than the best comic book movie, blade.
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If I have any nitpick with The Suicide Squad it is that Harley feels very different than the Harley of Birds of Prey. That movie was basically all character growth for her and here she is just kind of "Wacky Clown Girl" again. There is a hint of her BoP character in the scene where she shoots the guy in the stomach and goes on about her taste in men is problematic and wears her down. Margot Robbie is as brilliant as ever, and her action is dope as hell, and she is genuinely funny (Melvin bit was great) but it felt... a bit off I really dug the solid newcomers like Cena and Elba. Idris Elba does "I'm stuck with these idiots and I hate them" so goddamn well, and Cena just does bravado and being a dick to a tee. and David Dastmalchian is just great as Polka Dot Man, really brought something to an otherwise dumb character.
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