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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

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um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
At least the car runs. A step further then mine currently. What I would give to be able to crash it into the woods :v:

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Bet that was fun :smith:

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Starting on pad/rotor replacements on all 4 corners. Will also be installing braided brake lines from FM while I'm at it. Then a full brake fluid flush. Should be fun.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro



You took the shortcut again?

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Hell Miata (96 NA) is running. No weird noises or smells. I am getting cooling issues, discovered one fan doesn't kick on. Ive tested the fan and it works. I see there is a cooling fan relay and a pair of AC relays. Anyone ever have to tinker with this system? I just want to eliminate the easy and common issues first.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

I'm not sure the GPS is telling you the correct route...

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006




GET BEEFY

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Cooling fan turns out it was working fine. I mixed up passenger and driver side fan identities. Buuuut.....



This is still an issue. I'm going to add more water to the radiator because it's running pure 50/50 right now and hope that fixes the issue. What would you guys reckon is a good percentage for a regular rear end road application?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Coredump posted:

Starting on pad/rotor replacements on all 4 corners. Will also be installing braided brake lines from FM while I'm at it. Then a full brake fluid flush. Should be fun.

I just did the fronts on the side of the street. Piece of cake. Make sure you have an 8mm(?) bolt to get the rotors unstuck, it worked like magic for me.

TrueChaos
Nov 14, 2006




um excuse me posted:

Cooling fan turns out it was working fine. I mixed up passenger and driver side fan identities. Buuuut.....



This is still an issue. I'm going to add more water to the radiator because it's running pure 50/50 right now and hope that fixes the issue. What would you guys reckon is a good percentage for a regular rear end road application?

For what it's worth in my '99 I run 50/50, stock (still factory original :derp:) rad, and regularly track my car in 95F+ temperatures, and my temp needle is never over half. Do you have the stock undertray installed? It makes a huge difference in how well the cooling system works. Is there a chance you've got an air bubble trapped in the system?

The only time it went slightly over half I hadn't flushed the coolant in... somewhere north of 5 years, so I flushed it and haven't had issues since.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
So here are the things that aren't standard that could affect the cooling:

-Ford Escort GT head. Unsure of how different coolant path is.

-No thermostat. It's a summer car so I'm not expecting to need one.

-Mishimoto aluminum radiator. You'd think this would help.

-Undertray. Lol, this car barely has a bumper. I wonder which of the 4 previous owners took that off.

TrueChaos
Nov 14, 2006




Is it overheating sitting at idle or just when driving? If it's when driving, an undertray probably fixes your issue.

My thermostat is stuck open, I'm ignoring it until I install the turbo this winter. Means cold morning drives to the track are higher gear or it won't hold temp :v:

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

TrueChaos posted:

Is it overheating sitting at idle or just when driving? If it's when driving, an undertray probably fixes your issue.

My thermostat is stuck open, I'm ignoring it until I install the turbo this winter. Means cold morning drives to the track are higher gear or it won't hold temp :v:

Both! I get high temps presumably held back by the airflow from driving, and higher temps parked at idle to the point the overheat fan kicks on.

My radiator started leaking which is a fun new development. It's a Mishimoto which makes it extra disappointing. Hell Miata gonna hell Miata.

Edit: hey isnt the fan supposed to turn on before the needle climbs?

Double edit:

um excuse me fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Aug 7, 2021

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

um excuse me posted:

So here are the things that aren't standard that could affect the cooling:

-Ford Escort GT head. Unsure of how different coolant path is.

-No thermostat. It's a summer car so I'm not expecting to need one.

-Mishimoto aluminum radiator. You'd think this would help.

-Undertray. Lol, this car barely has a bumper. I wonder which of the 4 previous owners took that off.

put an undertray on it

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

um excuse me posted:

Both! I get high temps presumably held back by the airflow from driving, and higher temps parked at idle to the point the overheat fan kicks on.

My radiator started leaking which is a fun new development. It's a Mishimoto which makes it extra disappointing. Hell Miata gonna hell Miata.

Edit: hey isnt the fan supposed to turn on before the needle climbs?

Double edit:



I can't believe the luck you've been having with this Miata. Have you considered something more reliable, like an RX-8 that has spent time at the bottom of the ocean?

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Air dam huh let's just take a look at figure out what I need to get it mounted



Goddammit.


Edit: gonna order $40 in fasteners to see what I can piece together with what is still there. The whole front end is held on by, like, 3 bumper fasteners

um excuse me fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Aug 8, 2021

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

um excuse me posted:

Both! I get high temps presumably held back by the airflow from driving, and higher temps parked at idle to the point the overheat fan kicks on.

My radiator started leaking which is a fun new development. It's a Mishimoto which makes it extra disappointing. Hell Miata gonna hell Miata.

Edit: hey isnt the fan supposed to turn on before the needle climbs?

Double edit:



One of those fuckers killed the head on my 1988 626 4WS with the fairly rare 2.0 16v FE-DOHC / FE3 engine.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Cat Hatter posted:

I can't believe the luck you've been having with this Miata. Have you considered something more reliable, like an RX-8 that has spent time at the bottom of the ocean?

Part of it is the resolve I set on day one of ownership. I looked at it right in its pop ups and told it I would drag it back from the gates of heaven kicking and screaming if it killed me.

You know those people who find a POS and say "oh my god someone rescue this before it ends up in a junk yard", I am the one person who listened. It has cost me more than it would have to just buy an NA without issues but now there is one more NA that will spend another decade on the road, and to me, that's what makes this worth it

Edit: replaced some old heater hoses and the old busted hose clamps with the new hotness.

um excuse me fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Aug 8, 2021

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



um excuse me posted:


You know those people who find a POS and say "oh my god someone rescue this before it ends up in a junk yard"


Yes, that's me. I'm roughly $24k into an $1100 miata with sunburn, torn leather, rust, mold, and cigarette butts under the seat. It sure is pretty now.



Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


gently caress I never saw that in this thread before, that color is so gorgeous.

:nice:

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Ror posted:

gently caress I never saw that in this thread before, that color is so gorgeous.

:nice:

Thanks!
I don't think I've had the courage to post it yet. I painted it myself in Porsche Miami blue. It turned out okay for a first timer I think. A good 10 foot paint job. It took forever to do all the prep, something I really don't want to ever do again!

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

BloodBag posted:

Yes, that's me. I'm roughly $24k into an $1100 miata with sunburn, torn leather, rust, mold, and cigarette butts under the seat. It sure is pretty now.





Oh god its like looking into a crystal ball into my future.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

BloodBag posted:

I painted it myself in Porsche Miami blue. It turned out okay for a first timer I think. A good 10 foot paint job. It took forever to do all the prep, something I really don't want to ever do again!
Yo, as someone going through this right now, that turned out really goddamn well! Nice work, it is beautiful.

TrueChaos
Nov 14, 2006




BloodBag posted:

Yes, that's me. I'm roughly $24k into an $1100 miata with sunburn, torn leather, rust, mold, and cigarette butts under the seat. It sure is pretty now.





This looks fantastic, but 24K into a miata and it's not swapped or turbo'd is a scary thing.

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



I started to lol and then I did the math and realized I'm about 12k into a 4.5k Miata and the only performance upgrade I've made is wheels and tires , and it hasn't been repainted and the seats need to be reupholstered or replaced

Pretty good rate of return, though, it's easily a 6k Miata now

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The Miami blue Miata looks awesome but jeez how do you guys manage that. I'm probably like $500 into my $6k NB and everything works properly. I'll probably spend $1k to get the frame rails and rockers fixed soon but otherwise I'm not expecting any non-performance spending any time soon.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Paid £900 for my NB and am in it for about the same in new suspension bits and replacement panels for welding in. I suspect that number will go up once I have it back on the road :v:

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



TrueChaos posted:

This looks fantastic, but 24K into a miata and it's not swapped or turbo'd is a scary thing.

Little poo poo adds up over time. New wheels & tires, every last seal in the engine except head gasket, new struts & springs all around, all new parts for AC system except the lines, new alternator, new brake calipers & rotors, new ball joints, every single piece of weatherstripping ($1,800 if anyone wants to do this), hardtop, new seals for the hardtop, coolant reroute, new undertray and air guide, reupholstered seats, paint (poo poo's expensive!!!) new front and rear fenders, and like millions of little fasteners, clips, nuts, etc.

Everything I've bought for the car, including the car, over the span of 4 years added up to $24k. I'm so seriously burned out on the project, yall have no idea.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
For me it's about $500 per engine rebuild (I'm up to three), about $1500 for a new interior, new wheels and tires about $1200, new brake system and suspension for about $1000. I'm not that deep in, but I also do not see the end in sight. There's still a ton under the hood that needs to be unfucked, and I have not even started body work.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Body work is the worst thing in the world. Mechanical stuff is easy to deal with, but bodywork is mostly art.

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



4.5k Miata
2k in catching up on PO’s deferred maintenance
3k to fix it after I slid it into a guardrail
1k in misc poo poo (replacement headlight, mostly, but also shifter rebuild and motor mounts and whatever)
1k in wheels and tires

Really it was wrecking the thing that hosed up the numbers

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

BloodBag posted:

Body work is the worst thing in the world. Mechanical stuff is easy to deal with, but bodywork is mostly art.

Good on you for trying it. Cutting out / replacing the body of my car was the easy part, but once I started prepping the thing to drop off to paint I have spent way more time with bodyfiller / sanding blocks / primer than I care to admit. I could never follow through on painting the whole thing.


Also, I paid $20k for my Miata. I started adding up parts and it is obscene what it'd cost to replicate... which reminds me, I need to call Grundy or Hagerty.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Mishimoto doesn't want the leaking radiator back and is shipping a new one. Sent the leaking one to a radiator shop to see what they'll charge to fix it today. Definitely gonna use the old busted one and keep the new one in the box if I can.

mcgreenvegtables
Nov 2, 2004
Yum!
4300 for the NB
800 in deferred PO maintenance (timing belt, wheel bearings, brakes, radiator, hoses)
1000 new canvas top installed
0 windshield taken out by a tree branch
(soon) 950 to fix a bigass dent, same tree different branch (+1k to get rid of the dying tree)
(soon) 600? nice replacement seat covers professionally installed

8-9k all in over 5 years, and now featuring a moldy interior and early-stage rocker cancer. Really love/hate keeping this thing around.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

um excuse me posted:

Mishimoto doesn't want the leaking radiator back and is shipping a new one. Sent the leaking one to a radiator shop to see what they'll charge to fix it today. Definitely gonna use the old busted one and keep the new one in the box if I can.

This is what I do too. SMORT

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Got the repaired radiator. The new fan switch is in but I still have the overheating issue. I combed 10 year old forum posts and started getting annoyed at all of the suggested issues I know I solved when I came across something interesting. Intermittent cooling can be displayed if you rev the engine.

https://i.imgur.com/HYh40zO.mp4

Intermittent cooling is caused by a bad water pump.

I literally couldn't figure out how to imbed video

um excuse me fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Aug 12, 2021

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Is it actually overheating

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
The only thing I haven't replaced is the sender for the gage cluster. I doubt it's bad as it seems to behave normally (ie slowly climbing, sitting in the middle for a little, not dancing around.

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BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



You sure you don't have a bad cluster? I thought the cluster was meant to have hysteresis filtering making it impossible to move that fast.

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