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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
"Singapore has public housing" by itself would be enough to stand as a refutation that it's run as/like a neoliberal hellscape. Throw in the Sovereign Wealth Funds, the State Owned Enterprises, the outright rejection of liberalism as a tool for governance in the cultural space, and the complete dominance of the PAP in the parliament (including supression of other parties that so-called liberal democracies might clutch their pearls at) and Singapore is far closer to being a "State Capitalist" nation than any of the others that usually tarred-and-feathered with this phrase.

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mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012
though the governance ethos is very much neoliberal. there's an interview i watched with a singaporean gov't official who, when asked about his countrys welfare model answered with the typical boomer word salad about moochers and how you gotta work, the government isnt gonna prop up a lazy parasite, you can do what you want so long as you can pay for it etc

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

You can do anything you want except buy chewing gum.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Mantis42 posted:

You can do anything you want except buy chewing gum.

totalitarian cultural genocide of skateboarders

huhwhat
Apr 22, 2010

by sebmojo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Posting articles and links without any kind of editorial viewpoint is huhwhat's whole gimmick, and it's the weirdest thing anybody does on this forum.


https://www.sohu.com/a/324436873_362042 posted:

In October 16, 2015, President Xi Jinping attended the 2015 Summit Forum on poverty reduction and development and delivered a keynote speech. He used the phrase "授人以鱼,不如授人以渔" to point out that alleviating material poverty requires alleviating intellectual poverty, and that letting children in poor areas receive good education is not just an important task for poverty alleviation and development but also an important step in stopping intergenerational transmission of poverty.

"授人以鱼,不如授人以渔" means that it is better to teach to teach a man to fish than to feed him fish for a day. In this context, the proverb says that it is better to impart to a person the method by which knowledge can be gained than to impart the knowledge itself.

https://www.observersnews.com/politics/2021_05_02_589550.shtml posted:

In May 2018, when visiting Peking University, before a captivated audience, the general secretary shared his attitude towards reading:

"At that time, I read some works on Marxism-Leninism. At the age of 15, I already have the ability to think independently. In the process of reading, I achieved the negation of negation through continuous re-examination, gaining new insights while reviewing old materials, and I gradually came to understand that Marxism is indeed the truth, that both the people and history have chosen the Communist Party of China to lead, and socialism is the only path forward for China's development. Because these conclusions are drawn through one's own knowledge and thinking process, they will stand firm and unwavering through time.


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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
we must learn to fish but also become like fish

quote:

Many people think it impossible for guerrillas to exist for long in the enemy's rear. Such a belief reveals lack of comprehension of the relationship that should exist between the people and the troops. The former may be likened to water the latter to the fish who inhabit it. How may it be said that these two cannot exist together? It is only undisciplined troops who make the people their enemies and who, like the fish out of its native element cannot live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQlscG7dcg

posting because there's a part where mao blows down the street in an army jeep behind a v-shaped motorcycle squad and it's badass

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 12:21 on Aug 7, 2021

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

What's the deal with dwnews anyway, I've seen it in the past and thought that it was a Chinese branch of Deutsche Welle but that didn't seem right so looked more and realized it was these dudes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duowei_News

Kinda weird to see a simplified mandarin news outlet with Taiwan in its top menu haha. Is it far to one side or the other ideologically? My mandarin is nowhere near enough to read the subtext/tone of the articles (I'm bad at tones in the first place! ba dum tss).

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Dwnews.com is fairly neutral outlet run by people from mainland. Yeah it's not dw news. Btw dw has its Chinese edition too, run by mostly falun gong people.

Also, Taiwan has its own CNA.com.tw, not to be confused with the more famous CNA, which is Singapore's government owned news outlet.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 13:06 on Aug 7, 2021

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010




lol

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

lol i'd never seen this particular smear before. fantastic

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/pol...pgtype=homepage

quote:

‘We had no choice’: China’s one-child policy and the millions of ‘missing girls’

An estimated 20 million baby girls went ‘missing’ from the population between 1980 and 2010 due to a preference for boys, demographer says
Family planning rules have now been relaxed, but the country is facing a massive gender imbalance.

China’s sex ratio at birth is one of the highest in the world. In 2017 it was 111.9 males to 100 females – higher than India’s at 111.6, according to the UN body’s annual State of World Population report last year.
...
Feng Yuan, a feminist activist and co-founder of Beijing-based NGO Equality, said the gender imbalance could worsen by 2030, when boys who were born around 2000 – when the sex ratio at birth was most serious – reach an age where they start looking to marry.

Looking forward to China entering the cool zone

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I thought the "baby murdering savages" thing was debunked years ago.

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Chuka Umana posted:

you guys aren't getting your social credit if your defense of china is this weak.

My favorite type of reddit China guy is one who in 2021 still earnestly believes social credit is a thing

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/MujMash/status/1423488575434235911

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/PostOpinions/status/1423402388036149248

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Red and Black posted:

My favorite type of reddit China guy is one who in 2021 still earnestly believes social credit is a thing

It's incredible how people don't realize that the credit system in the US is the functional equivalent of a social credit. You can ask any poor person what happens if you try to buy something with a low credit score.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
xi is the 2nd to last letter but it sounds like the last letter of the alphabet. whats up with that

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1423641524806447106

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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i like the one thats based on ancient chinese alchemy. its both a garish nightmare and based on a philosphy about turning yourself into an immortal sex goku

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/tunkuv/status/1424003635692949507

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I thought the "baby murdering savages" thing was debunked years ago.

shrike being a racist is part of the gimmick

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


Rape/murder of of dalits is incredibly common in india still, they're still treated like dogshit in some parts of the country. We "abolished" the caste system when we became independent.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/tshugart3/status/1423668870443905024

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

lmfao

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

lol gotta love geography.jpg to make you broad handwavey point.

hmm yes why didn't people expand their city across a mountain range and into a desert guess we'll never know

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mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

Does weird feature i see potentially have an easy alternative explanation? No, it must be the inscrutable celestials indecipherable design

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

AnimeIsTrash posted:

It's incredible how people don't realize that the credit system in the US is the functional equivalent of a social credit. You can ask any poor person what happens if you try to buy something with a low credit score.

not just bad credit - there's tenant screening software landlords can use that look at your social media and other factors, employers use screening stuff on potential candidates, lots of employers also do criminal background checks... the US has this system of social control, it's just entirely privatized and thus beyond the reach of any democratic accountability. every accusation really is a confession lol

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth

LimburgLimbo posted:

lol gotta love geography.jpg to make you broad handwavey point.

hmm yes why didn't people expand their city across a mountain range and into a desert guess we'll never know



Umm that is clearly prime agricultural land for settling as lebensraum. Just ask the geniuses over in d&d

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/712130main_8246931247_e60f3c09fb_o.jpg

relatively recent night pic, posted as url because it's loving huge

china isn't even an outlier lol

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

lobster shirt posted:

not just bad credit - there's tenant screening software landlords can use that look at your social media and other factors, employers use screening stuff on potential candidates, lots of employers also do criminal background checks... the US has this system of social control, it's just entirely privatized and thus beyond the reach of any democratic accountability. every accusation really is a confession lol

ive never seen people getting denied to rent an apartment because of their credit here in china?

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

yeah i was talking about the US, whatever insane thing gets made up about social credit in china is just a description of life in the US

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
yeah the whole "credit" system is miles behind america. I asked my wife what would happen if we stopped paying our rent, eventually theyd kick us out. but if you look for a new place they dont do any background check at all. instead you just have to pay a ton at once (3-5 months rent is the standard).

rofl, my gf (at the time) actually used sesame credit when I first moved to china. we got a discount on our rent (didn't have to pay broker fee, 1 month of rent). in my 5 years living here thats the onyl time I've heard of it.

In so far as it's used, its mostly incentives, rather than punsihments, like low credit score in america. Thats something thats not really discussed outside of china, but in general (not always) the govt prefers to nudge people in certain directions rather than punishing them. A perfect example is the covid vaccine. The chinese govt could just mandate it, and make everone take it, but they choose not to. the rollout has been pretty fast due to production capacity and peoples trust for the govt. I've heard about incentives in other provinces, but here in beijing everyone just got it because why not. I'm pretty sure beijing has reached the level of herd immunity (if there could be such a thing with the loving delta varient) On the other hand, my wifes parents dont trust it or the govt, so they've remained unvaccinated, with no consequences.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

it rules how american rhetoric on covid vaccines just has to completely ignore how the vaccine rollout has worked in any other country because its quite obvious when you look at the international figures that some countries with lower rates are doing better while others with higher rates are doing worse because you cant just build a one dimensional policy entirely around vaccine rollout and expect that to magically end the pandemic

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Red and Black posted:

My favorite type of reddit China guy is one who in 2021 still earnestly believes social credit is a thing
it sure would suck if social credit systems run by unaccountable top down hierarchies that are so powerful they affect your housing and job prospects became so pervasive and a part of everyday life they are unacknowledged as problematic by the population

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


nah he's right, China is stuffed on its east coast. That's why belt and road is important as well, so that they overcome their geography.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/UndoubtedlyABot/status/1423431510732967939?s=20

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Truga posted:

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/712130main_8246931247_e60f3c09fb_o.jpg

relatively recent night pic, posted as url because it's loving huge

china isn't even an outlier lol

* I didn't realize most of the Taiwan population live on the east side.
* There is literally a line of light between the 2 Koreas, I guess they lit up the fence with high power lights?

If Google map include it as one of the layer, I could spend hours on this.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

lmao

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

stephenthinkpad posted:

* I didn't realize most of the Taiwan population live on the east side.

You mean west and yes it's not even close. Basically everything is on the west side, and there's a strip of flat land that's in most places literally just a few kilometers wide, which is where basically all the properly inhabited parts are on the east coast. The largest areas of the flat strip are Taidong and Hualien. Also Luodong I guess is a bigger flat area but that's kinda chilling in the north surrounded but mountains.

Check the topographical map (think this should link right to it?) and it's pretty obvious where the people are:
https://www.google.com/maps/@23.7542036,120.5224203,9z/data=!5m1!1e4

East coast is really quite small. Also super nice since the mountains stop the combined bad air from the west coast factories/power plants and mainland in the winter from making things dirty.

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Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

lobster shirt posted:

yeah i was talking about the US, whatever insane thing gets made up about social credit in china is just a description of life in the US

State endorsed all-encompassing classist economic bullying isn't aUthOriTaRaNisM because vote for the next most important election in your lives

Palladium has issued a correction as of 01:40 on Aug 8, 2021

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