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Darth TNT posted:Also apparently Aizen disappeared, so he’s still out and about as a captain level + threat Assuming Can't Fear Your Own World is canon, he's just in super jail again. Szayelaporro just wouldn't know that, and it probably seals away his reiatsu as well.
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Darth TNT posted:Also apparently Aizen disappeared, so he’s still out and about as a captain level + threat Gosh, who could have guessed that he might break out of prison someday
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Aug 7, 2021 16:21
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Darth TNT posted:Also apparently Aizen disappeared, so he’s still out and about as a captain level + threat I think they just meant he “disappeared” from the world since he’s in super jail.
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Aug 7, 2021 16:26
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Also I like that spirit funerals take place 12 years after the captain's death. Presumedly for no reason other than that's how long the timeskip was. Plus new hollow lore? Maybe we'll finally get that Ichigo vs. Grand Fisher payoff.
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Aug 7, 2021 16:30
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Squad 0 + Genyruusai as villains please. This could be the stupidest and best Bleach arc ever. ...this poo poo is continuing, right? gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it is time for me to bring back my lame rear end jokes about double hell. those were jokes?
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Aug 7, 2021 17:25
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Squad 0's not dead.
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Aug 7, 2021 17:27
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chumbler posted:Assuming Can't Fear Your Own World is canon, he's just in super jail again. Szayelaporro just wouldn't know that, and it probably seals away his reiatsu as well. and if Can't Fear Your Own World isn't canon then what the gently caress are we even doing
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Aug 7, 2021 19:18
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I'm hoping we get some interesting payoff for whatever the hell is going on with Ichigo's kid. He can transition between human and spirit form at will with no need for an external catalyst and does not leave a body behind when doing so, he's got some kind of school of spirit koi fish he can fly around on, and he can summon a spirit portal (or a hell portal?) without using his zanpakuto. Kid's got some poo poo going on.
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RatHat posted:The only problem I have with a Bleach sequel(and shonen sequels in general really) is the power level was already so stupidly high at the end of the first series. How do you make new villains and characters if they have to catch up to the main characters who are basically gods now. Bleach's power scale didn't really go up thaaat much higher tbh from like Hueco Mundo. Most of the power was from people who never showed their Ban Kai, finally releasing it. Or finding new ways of using their powers. Like Byakuya is one of the strongest captains. and he didn't really change poo poo over the series.
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Sydin posted:I'm hoping we get some interesting payoff for whatever the hell is going on with Ichigo's kid. He can transition between human and spirit form at will with no need for an external catalyst and does not leave a body behind when doing so, he's got some kind of school of spirit koi fish he can fly around on, and he can summon a spirit portal (or a hell portal?) without using his zanpakuto. Kid's got some poo poo going on. Don’t forget about the Yhwach eyes.
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Thinking off the top of my head about other notable characters who may be likely to show up in hell and aren't accounted for elsewhere, I've got the following. Bazz B Haschwalth Nnoitra Ulquiorra Tousen Gin (hoping for this one in particular) Previous Kenpachi Starrk Any of the dead espada really, but I don't think anyone would be clamoring for Zomarri or Aaroniero to show back up
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Aug 7, 2021 21:11
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Can't Name Your Own Dog
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chumbler posted:Thinking off the top of my head about other notable characters who may be likely to show up in hell and aren't accounted for elsewhere, I've got the following. Aaroniero does count as both an espada and Ukitake's former vice-captain Kaien Shiba, he should have pretty good odds of making an appearance.
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TheHan posted:Aaroniero does count as both an espada and Ukitake's former vice-captain Kaien Shiba, he should have pretty good odds of making an appearance. I fully expect we'll see Kaien. IIRC it was pretty heavily implied he was captain-level but slumming it at VC by choice because he didn't want to take over Ukitake's spot.
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Aug 7, 2021 21:45
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How did it take this long for Bleach to have a gyaru?
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Aug 7, 2021 22:12
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Harribel kinda had the look, if not the personality.
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Aug 7, 2021 22:48
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Oh question, does this chapter exist in the same continuity as movie 4? I imagine not as Movie 4 was a big mess and Kubo's script was revised so heavily that he wanted his credit removed.
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Aug 7, 2021 22:59
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Covok posted:Oh question, does this chapter exist in the same continuity as movie 4? I imagine not as Movie 4 was a big mess and Kubo's script was revised so heavily that he wanted his credit removed. I guess it's stuff he wanted to do with Hell but never did? lol
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Aug 7, 2021 23:38
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Shugojin posted:I guess it's stuff he wanted to do with Hell but never did? lol Yeah, this chapter is following the Hell movies tie in comic, even using the same character. I 100% bet this is based on the original premise of Movie 4.
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Aug 7, 2021 23:43
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TheHan posted:Aaroniero does count as both an espada and Ukitake's former vice-captain Kaien Shiba, he should have pretty good odds of making an appearance. Aaroniero was also explicitly seen in Hell with Szayelaporro
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Aug 8, 2021 00:00
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Covok posted:Yeah, this chapter is following the Hell movies tie in comic, even using the same character. I 100% bet this is based on the original premise of Movie 4. Nothing here conflicts with Movie 4 and the villains were prisoners of hell not part of its establishment.
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Aug 8, 2021 00:08
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well, ichigo is acting like he never heard of hell. however, no one is ordering ichigo to recall the events of movie 4 so he has no reason to remember it.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:50
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He has heard of Hell it showed up in an early chapter.
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MonsterEnvy posted:He has heard of Hell it showed up in an early chapter. It first showed up when Grand Fischer was purified and he was sent straight to hell for his crimes. Early Bleach until the end of the Soul Society Arc was 
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Covok posted:It first showed up when Grand Fischer was purified and he was sent straight to hell for his crimes. Shrieker not Grand Fischer.
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Aug 8, 2021 01:56
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MonsterEnvy posted:He has heard of Hell it showed up in an early chapter. well, he heard of it once in passing over a decade ago and it never came up again (aside from the questionably canon movie).
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:well, he heard of it once in passing over a decade ago and it never came up again (aside from the questionably canon movie). Oh I don’t think the movies events are canon, but how things work in Hell in the movie has not been contradicted.
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tbh i don't remember the details of that movie any better than ichigo seems to
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I know the workings of the bleach world are horrible but lmao "if you get too strong we send you to hell when you die" is a fuckin doozy
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The universe in Bleach is pretty awful. If you have an awful life in the human world and die without having your soul cleansed, you become a monster in constant pain from a hole inside you you, unless you are eating the souls of the living. The more souls you eat, the bigger target you paint on your back. If you get strong enough, you are forced to fuse into a mindless monster, unless you have a strong enough will, then you become a Menos with personality. But at this point you need to eat other spirits of the dead because the living won’t really be enough to sustain you. If you don’t keep eating, you will lose your will and become mindless. If you ever get even a bite taken out of you, you won’t be able to get stronger and can only stave off regression into a mindless beast. The constant pain from the hole never stops. Get strong enough that you don’t have to fear regressing and when you eventually die you will be tortured in hell forever. If you get cleansed you live in ghost poverty until you get eaten by a monster or used in soul reaper experiments. You have a lottery level chance of developing spirit energy that would let you become a soul reaper, but that means you need to eat food now and that’s hard to get while living in ghost poverty. Maybe you’ll be recruited by a soul reaper and not murdered first, but now you live in a militaristic bureaucracy and you will probably get killed by a monster or used as a science experiment unless you are strong as gently caress. But if you get strong as gently caress you will be tortured in hell forever when you die. The comic does not make it overtly clear that the universe is this awful, to the point where the only characters to rail against or point out how awful it is are Aizen (villain), YWACH (villain), and Urahara (shady as hell). Living in this universe would be almost as bad as living in Berserk’s universe.
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Only three new character introduced in 75 pages it's remarkably restrained by bleach standards
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I do wonder how Ichika was able to see the hell Hollows before they revealed themselves to everyone.
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PringleCreamEgg posted:If you ever get even a bite taken out of you, you won’t be able to get stronger and can only stave off regression into a mindless beast. If you get a bite taken out of you a Hollow will no longer regress.
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Dexo posted:Like Byakuya is one of the strongest captains. and he didn't really change poo poo over the series. TBH I thought that Byakuya was firmly planted as a mid-tier captain through most of Bleach
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That’s not to say he’s weak but Yamasama, twin sword guys and Aizen all seemed to be pretty firmly above him
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TheKingofSprings posted:That’s not to say he’s weak but Yamasama, twin sword guys and Aizen all seemed to be pretty firmly above him Aizen was above basically everyone except Yamamoto and maybe Unohana, and Byakuya is pretty much next in line for leadership after Shunsui. His also has being from one of the four big families is a point toward that as well. Edit: Or I guess three big families at this point, given CFYOW. chumbler fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Byakuya is probably right in the middle of the original captains. Yamamoto, Unohana, Kenpachi, Aizen and Shunsui are probably the ones stronger than him. We never really got to see what Ukitake was truly capable of though. Definitely above Toshiro, Mayuri, Tosen, Komamura, Soi Fong, and probably above Gin. Once you add all the Visored guys it's a little more complicated, even more so if you add all the "former" Captains who are certainly above him like Yoruichi, Urahara, and Isshin since they were trading blows with Metamorphosizing Aizen. He's probably on the weaker side once you include them just because Visor power ups.
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Is Urahara really all that strong though? My understanding is that he was weak as hell but smart as hell.
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In Bleach being smart as hell is a huge boon since it means you invented the perfect counter to your opponent before the fight even started.
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Gologle posted:Is Urahara really all that strong though? My understanding is that he was weak as hell but smart as hell. He kind of tosses out high level magic like it's the easiest thing in the world which seems to be a power level thing. Also a running thing with him is his releases being too dangerous to use in sparring because they're so good at murder. He was also, you know, fast enough to be able to fight with Aizen without getting "NANI" 'd. Pre-transformation Aizen was strong enough to body Ichigo effortlessly and chump most of the captains regardless, and Urahara was fighting with a stronger version of him, even if Aizen was goofing a bit. At some point being smarter than everyone is a form of power level, too. Two Tone Shoes fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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