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8one6 posted:Not yet. They're still filming. Working on a Doc Hammer schedule, I see. Yes, I know it's because of the pandemic.
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Grand Fromage posted:Same. I'm sure the way the episode handled things can be nitpicked by people more knowledgeable about the issues than I am, but that was the first one where it was clear oh no, they're actually trying to do a Star Trek here, it's not just jokes. Yeah. I sat down to Orville expecting Family Guy IN SPAAAAAAACE!!!!, and if it had been that I would have been happy. And the first two episodes were pretty much that. But then we got About A Girl, which was real honest to gosh science fiction... and also funny.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Pretty bad episode. It's certainly more Star Trek than the earlier episodes, but probably the absolutely worst of Star Trek. This is probably a contender for the worst episode of the series so far. Good news is you're past the worst of the show now.
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Aug 8, 2021 02:48
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Which writer had the big brain idea that the two races would even trust the results of the “impartial expert” from the Union that says they have a common ancestor after they were drugged by said Union.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Which writer had the big brain idea that the two races would even trust the results of the “impartial expert” from the Union that says they have a common ancestor after they were drugged by said Union. liz heldens, the main writer of Friday Night Lights lol episode 8 was brannon braga btw
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Nitrousoxide posted:I'm a star trek fan and have really been hankering for some good stuff since most of the modern stuff is trash. Fun fact about the religions in this episode. The Krill worship Avis. Ed and Gordon come up with Hertz as a joke. Avis and Hertz are two of the Big Three car rental companies in the US. Can you name the third ? Enterprise. That's an amazing setup for a joke that doesn't even get said aloud. Thanks again to whoever pointed that out back when the show first aired. e. Jazerus posted:episode 8 was brannon braga btw He also directed four episodes, including About a Girl. That episode didn't quite nail the landing, but overall the Moclan gender issues episodes add up to a very good arc. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Aug 8, 2021 |
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Aug 8, 2021 03:05
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mllaneza posted:That's an amazing setup for a joke that doesn't even get said aloud. The TNG joke that gets paid off in the... last or second to last episode of season one is maybe the greatest long-play joke I've ever seen on TV. I don't want to post anything more about it since we got a new watcher but man. Incredible.
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Covok posted:I am iffy on that episode. It's trying to do both sexism and tranpsohbia in one go so it ends up clunky. It works better, honestly, as a discussion on intersex people. It still works for a discussion on transphobia since the message is the child should of had a choice on their gender expression and not of had to abide on the gender expression their parents felt they should have, but people can totally take it as a transphobic message and that's the problem. Still, I feel the writer's heart was in the right place so I can let it go. One of the noblest callings of science fiction is to get so-called "normal" people to think about real-life things from a perspective that they wouldn't ever have thought of otherwise.
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Aug 8, 2021 03:16
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Grand Fromage posted:The TNG joke that gets paid off in the... last or second to last episode of season one is maybe the greatest long-play joke I've ever seen on TV. I don't want to post anything more about it since we got a new watcher but man. Incredible. Man, now i'm just wondering which joke you're referring to because that doesn't ring any bells for me.
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Aug 8, 2021 03:37
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Tom Guycot posted:Man, now i'm just wondering which joke you're referring to because that doesn't ring any bells for me. And it's not like spoiler tags don't exist.
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Aug 8, 2021 03:52
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How do Moclans
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Aug 8, 2021 06:23
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:How do Moclans The most likely explanation is that they're hermaphroditic but have clear morphological or genetic markers making it obvious they're analogous to the males of other species on their planet. I doubt that the show would ever explain it though.
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Aug 8, 2021 06:44
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Powered Descent posted:One of the noblest callings of science fiction is to get so-called "normal" people to think about real-life things from a perspective that they wouldn't ever have thought of otherwise. Using the experience of minority characters to provide teachable moments for the majority population is really patronising, IMO. Less noble than noblesse oblige. The episode gets into some really dumb gender essentialist crap too, and falls into a lot of classic stodgy scifi clichés. It's still pretty moving though, I'll give it that, and one of the show's more memorable episodes.
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Aug 8, 2021 09:04
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Moclan females return and get a good episode don't worry. Get to hear some Dolly Parton too. The show seems to learn from missteps which is refreshing since most shows double down or pretend it never happened when fans don't like an episode. I could be reading too much into 2 seasons and the writing team may just have taken a bit to realize they rea writing a scifi and not a joke hour.
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Aug 8, 2021 10:58
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:How do Moclans I heard an interview with the main one who said "It's like if you take two big rocks and run them through the dryer"
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Aug 8, 2021 13:26
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That's hilarious because it doesn't explain anything but makes you picture something.
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Aug 8, 2021 14:14
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That just makes it sound like two Goron going at it
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Aug 8, 2021 15:57
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pixaal posted:That just makes it sound like two Goron going at it Pretty similar I would imagine, brother
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Aug 8, 2021 16:12
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If they’re worried about getting cancelled after season three AND they want to continue being a TNG love letter, they have no choice but to end the finale on a cliffhanger where Mercer is converted in a Kaylon.
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Aug 8, 2021 17:00
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GigaPeon posted:If they’re worried about getting cancelled after season three AND they want to continue being a TNG love letter, they have no choice but to end the finale on a cliffhanger where Mercer is converted in a Kaylon. DUNNA DUN DUN DUNNA DUN DUN DUNNA DUN DUN DUN DUN DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Aug 8, 2021 17:02
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*dramatic camera movement* Commander Grayson: "Mr. LaMarr……Boom, bitch."
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Aug 8, 2021 17:07
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To be honest, since Seth MacFarlane has already used him for Family Guy and American Dad, I’d love for them to pull Ron Jones in to do music for The Orville!
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Aug 8, 2021 17:15
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My dream is to have Patrick Stewart show up and just be Bullock but in Star Trek.
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Aug 8, 2021 17:34
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Then come back in season 4 with sonic wallpaper.
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Aug 8, 2021 18:27
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Bring Back Alara 
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Open Source Idiom posted:Using the experience of minority characters to provide teachable moments for the majority population is really patronising, IMO. Less noble than noblesse oblige. Okay. Sci-fi still does it, and has always done it. Teaching different points of view through allegory to bypass knee-jerk prejudices is good. Kids back in the day saw the otherwise identical half-blackface aliens and easily comprehended that the prejudice between them was dumb, and it happened in a way that their racist grandpa wouldn't immediately notice and shut down. So they were able to carry the message that "enslaving people for a slightly different skin tone is dumb" and perhaps apply that lesson to situations in their real lives. Using aliens and robots as window dressing for morality tales is classic sci fi.
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Killer robot posted:They didn't film the season by episode, instead they did some sort of scheduling thing where "now we film all the scenes with this combination of characters and sets through the whole season", then the next combination, etc. Makes sense that different actors would finish at different times. That's a smart way of doing things if you need to keep the number of crew and cast down for Covid reasons, but has to be an insurance nightmare. In a conventional filming schedule it's always going to be difficult to deal with if you have an injury, illness or death among the cast, but you can write someone out. With this type of production you'd have to scrap so much already filmed content.
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drunken officeparty posted:Bring Back Alara I know, I know, but then we'd be missing Talla. It sucks, two characters, but only one job. I'd be delighted if we got Alara back and kept Talla; Talla fits so well into the dynamic with Kelly and Claire as one of the voices of maturity and experience that it's be a damned shame to lose her. I tell you, it's a dilema.
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Aug 9, 2021 02:50
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Senor Tron posted:That's a smart way of doing things if you need to keep the number of crew and cast down for Covid reasons, but has to be an insurance nightmare. In a conventional filming schedule it's always going to be difficult to deal with if you have an injury, illness or death among the cast, but you can write someone out. With this type of production you'd have to scrap so much already filmed content. That's how they were already doing it before covid happened. I presume there are cost benefits to it under normal operation.
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I like both characters but I think overall Talla is the better character for the show in terms of balancing the cast - there needed to be another older, more mature voice.
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The Lord Bude posted:I like both characters but I think overall Talla is the better character for the show in terms of balancing the cast - there needed to be another older, more mature voice. Agreed, they obv needed a female of whatever her species for script reasons but by the end she had her own unique character
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Grand Fromage posted:The TNG joke that gets paid off in the... last or second to last episode of season one is maybe the greatest long-play joke I've ever seen on TV. I don't want to post anything more about it since we got a new watcher but man. Incredible. Which joke is this? Just spoiler tag it
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Which joke is this? Just spoiler tag it https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3829973&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=409#post516799626 The spoilered part? edit: This sent me on rewatch Is it the talk about who becomes the chief engineer with Yaphet being next in line but they are considering Lamarr and Yaphet is just rambling 'is that because im liquid? this is racism!' and alluding to Geordi? VOY had B'Elanna vs generic white guy competing for chief engineering with notions 'but she's a klingon!'. Though I am unaware of how back in late 80's a darker skinned person in one of main commanding roles was received on big TV show so maybe not seeing the apparent for an US watcher undertone. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Aug 9, 2021 |
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drunken officeparty posted:Bring Back Tharl FTFY
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Erulisse posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3829973&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=409#post516799626 It's this: Geordi La Forge started out as a helmsman and then inexplicably moved to Chief Engineer, much like LaMarr.
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Talk about overthinking, heh. Thanks!
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Polaron posted:It's this: Geordi La Forge started out as a helmsman and then inexplicably moved to Chief Engineer, much like LaMarr. Yeah I meant this one.
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Season 1 episode 12 was pretty much the VOY episode “Blink of an eye” huh?
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Nitrousoxide posted:Season 1 episode 12 was pretty much the VOY episode “Blink of an eye” huh? Which was, in turn, pretty much a book by Robert L. Forward.
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