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It's NXT's fault that RAW and Smackdown has been bleeding viewers for the last several years.
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NXT struggles to stay above 500k. AEW is tryin to figure out how to flip 2 million with steep live event competition. More like No Name Jabronie.
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I really, really, really can't wait for the first week Dynamite beats Raw in the demo. Their heads are going to explode.
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MJeff posted:I really, really, really can't wait for the first week Dynamite beats Raw in the demo. Their heads are going to explode. something something "That's only the demo!" something something "Man, wrestling fans sure are agest!"
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MJeff posted:I really, really, really can't wait for the first week Dynamite beats Raw in the demo. Their heads are going to explode. It's ONLY because they have good booking, an all-star roster, push wrestlers the fans want to see, and consistently show great matches. SO unfair. Also at the same time it doesn't matter because they're not competition anyway. Also at the same time it doesn't matter because you're all just marks. Also at the same time ratings don't prove anything (unless we're winning and then they totally do).
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sticklefifer posted:It's ONLY because they have good booking, an all-star roster, push wrestlers the fans want to see, and consistently show great matches. SO unfair. and then it was actually Vince's plan the whole time, you guys just can't see the 4D chessboard
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I don't buy the "casual fans don't like flippy acrobats blah blah blah" argument. If you're channel surfing without knowing much about wrestling you're way more likely to stop after you saw Rey Fenix do some insane, gravity defying stuff than if you saw two huge muscle dudes going through the paces. Even two great workers doing some chain wrestling doesn't have the same "oh poo poo" factor that's going to make someone hang around to see what happens next. I wonder how many people got hooked in on WCW by the luchadors on the undercard and hung around to see the other stuff.
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Zombie Lemur posted:I don't buy the "casual fans don't like flippy acrobats blah blah blah" argument. they just work backwards from whatever WWE places importance on. that's the stuff that must be the draw for casual fans and anything else is not, because WWE is the most successful wrestling company in the world!
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Flippy bullshit is 100% the reason my friend and I even fuckin started watching wrestling. Then I saw an Ishii match and was like "oh maybe slappy big beef matches are good too".
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Lethrom posted:Flippy bullshit is 100% the reason my friend and I even fuckin started watching wrestling. 100% the same for myself. I was primed from an Omega Okada that there might be something to wrestling but it was seeing prime NJPW juniors gifs that pushed me to really investigate.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:they just work backwards from whatever WWE places importance on. that's the stuff that must be the draw for casual fans and anything else is not, because WWE is the most successful wrestling company in the world! Right, that's why I referred to WWE and its fandom as a cargo cult. "If we just do (blank) the glory days will return." It's not any more useful than building a replica of an airplane out of palm fronds or whatever. A lot more goes into making it actually work than an empty shell that looks vaguely similar.
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Zombie Lemur posted:Right, that's why I referred to WWE and its fandom as a cargo cult. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHLbdFcd9Yo If we just had...
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Rey Misterio was my favorite wrestler when I was a kid. I can't imagine not loving all the flippy stuff.
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Has anyone pointed out to these people that none of this, NONE OF THIS, would be happening if HHH had simply said "Sure Cody, you stop being Stardust."
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Justin_Brett posted:I like that their argument to defend Vince implies Vince is incredibly stupid and gulllible Kaepernick tricked Vince into losing like $100 million on the XFL or whatever.
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Davros1 posted:Has anyone pointed out to these people that none of this, NONE OF THIS, would be happening if HHH had simply said "Sure Cody, you stop being Stardust." That gimmick was gold and Cody couldn't make it work!
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i think it's easy for people posting here to forget that wwe will always have the loyal fans no matter what they do. it used to be 3 million people and now it's a little under a million, but they'll always have them. when people stop being loyal fans they aren't counted as loyal fans any longer so the loyal fans are always watching.
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Lucha Libre has been around forever and has been influencing US wrestling for a long time. Nitro at its hottest had cruiserweights jumping around every week.
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HMS Beagle posted:Rey Misterio was my favorite wrestler when I was a kid. I can't imagine not loving all the flippy stuff. Heck, two of my favorites were the Rock 'n Roll Express who were - wait for it - small fast dudes. I think they have made a buck or two over the years.
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Nick Khan- Lifelong WWF Fan https://twitter.com/MidFraud/status/1424553906089172993?s=20
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https://twitter.com/KrisPLettuce/status/1424422968805969921 https://twitter.com/VicNeumann1/status/1424487309559353345 "Please stop comparing being in WWE to prison." - a thing fans are telling former WWE wrestlers semi-regularly now.
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Zombie Lemur posted:I wonder how many people got hooked in on WCW by the luchadors on the undercard and hung around to see the other stuff.
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The WCW mix of Lucha style highspots with big personalities up top was a great mix for casual fans while not annoying hard-core fans. But sadly they couldn't stop the main eventers from burying the cruiserweight and whelp...
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It's really telling that all the newly anti-NXT WWE stans all go out of their way to demean people with dwarfism while insulting an unrelated thing they don't like.
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what is with this overlap of premier league fan accounts and Vincels https://twitter.com/__CFCzone_/status/1424610209280917508
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Lid posted:what is with this overlap of premier league fan accounts and Vincels Way back in the day the 2 big things on Sky were the prem and wrestling. So if your dad got sky to watch the football you then had access to all wwe content
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https://twitter.com/JoeBonham7/status/1424615126293000193 https://twitter.com/JoeBonham7/status/1424573399473479681 https://twitter.com/JoeBonham7/status/1424610425426022404 https://twitter.com/JoeBonham7/status/1424612911847288835 Please release Dexter Lumis just so I can watch this weird creepy mans mind explode.
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Rockstar Spud, better wrestler than Johnny Gargano, apparently.
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Holy poo poo that account is a gold mine. My faves: Mr Personality Dexter Lumis AEW drew viewers because the show was bad edit: Before Dexter Lumis era lol I might use this form now on
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I booed Vance Archer at a show once. WWE fired him. Now, he is a champion defending against Tanahashi. He owes me.
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Lid posted:what is with this overlap of premier league fan accounts and Vincels The poor man's version with a larger budget for literally everything.
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mooseinfants posted:Holy poo poo that account is a gold mine. My faves: https://twitter.com/JoeBonham7/status/1424613382519406601 This is like some weird alternate universe where it seems alllllmost correct and then you get things like The Miz Golden Age.
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Ah, AEW and your smaller arenas. https://twitter.com/WrestleTix/status/1423367531323170817?s=19
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I sometimes wish wrestling fans were less stupid cause some of the poo poo I read just in the last few posts alone gives me a headache.
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Lamuella posted:Ah, AEW and your smaller arenas. https://twitter.com/WrestleTix/status/1423367531323170817?s=19 AEW also sold over ten thousand tickets for their Chicago B-show taping in one day. Now I'm no expert, but imo that's p good for a pissant t-shirt company.
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mooseinfants posted:AEW drew viewers because the show was bad I would love to understand the reasoning behind this very interesting opinion
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Lid posted:what is with this overlap of premier league fan accounts and Vincels I dunno what it takes to willfully look as stupid as that reply. WWE looks like an eyesore and TNA looks cheap as all poo poo. AEW at least for my taste has the ideal wrestling presentation. I get it. It's a comment not made in good faith. Come the gently caress on though.
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a cyborg mug posted:I would love to understand the reasoning behind this very interesting opinion I think they meant to say WWE had a bad show that week which led to people checking out the competition? It's still weird in the context of the argument they're making, but it's slightly less nonsensical.
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