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Zugzwang posted:It’s super cool that we are returning to the times when medical emergencies are way likelier to kill you because emergency departments are overflowing with covid patients. Yeah I’m in a big city in the south and I’m back to limiting how much I ride my motorcycle. Also because it started being in the 90’s back in like may because the rich killed the earth.
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Stink Billyums posted:20% of total ICU space already taken up by covid seems kinda bad huh Is this for the whole country? Because holy poo poo
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PIZZA.BAT posted:Is this for the whole country? Because holy poo poo yup, that's national HHS database numbers
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Rolo posted:Yeah I’m in a big city in the south and I’m back to limiting how much I ride my motorcycle. Fortunately my local hospitals aren’t swamped with covid patients…yet. Though my county in CA is now at about half the daily caseload we had during the winter 2020-21 hell surge.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:FYI: the US government can, and has, forced people to get vaccinated via mandates and emergency powers so when blaming They aren't going to do that because a lot of state governments would stop just shy of open armed revolt and the amount of active sabotage by state/local authorities would make the FedGov look dangerously weak and embolden domestic enemies. If they tried and failed we would have a 100% chance of chuddy states deciding to push the boundaries on what else they can get away with ignoring.
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Vernii posted:They aren't going to do that because a lot of state governments would stop just shy of open armed revolt and the amount of active sabotage by state/local authorities would make the FedGov look dangerously weak and embolden domestic enemies. There is this weird internet trend ever since Biden took office where someone will invent a completely implausible/illegal solution to a problem ("Joe Biden could use Section 1881A of the Social Security Act to enact Medicare for All by executive order!"), then rant that because Biden is not doing that exact completely imaginary thing means that he is personally 100% responsible for every bad thing that they think their solution would solve. So yeah, "Joe Biden refused to open vaccination gulags and is thus has the blood of every single COVID death in America on his hands" is just another beat of the same drum.
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LanceHunter posted:There is this weird internet trend ever since Biden took office where someone will invent a completely implausible/illegal solution to a problem ("Joe Biden could use Section 1881A of the Social Security Act to enact Medicare for All by executive order!"), then rant that because Biden is not doing that exact completely imaginary thing means that he is personally 100% responsible for every bad thing that they think their solution would solve. Yea, they also like to pretend all actions like this happen in a vacuum and that there won't be active opposition in a variety of exciting flavors or any political consequences at all. Like that "just call up the army to vax everyone!" post. Let's imagine that happened. Sure we just established an incredibly authoritarian precedent that the GOP certainly wouldn't abuse every chance it gets, probably give them a landslide win in 2022 and total control of the government in 2024, and all of it will totally be worth it to... *checks notes* save a few million chuds from themselves. 
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Aug 9, 2021 17:24
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wilderthanmild posted:The point of my post isn't disproving that most unvaccinated are white, but rather that it's a not really a meaningful piece of information because most people in the US are white. It's like when people post heatmaps of various things and they are really just heatmaps of population in the end. It's meaningful because when someone complains about the unvaxxed you can know immediately that anyone who responds with "why do you hate brown people" is just a disingenuous shitlord.
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ted hitler hunter posted:The Westerner doesn't put the same high price on life as does others. Life is plentiful. Life is cheap in the West.
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None of the west’s massive fleets of river corpses have anything to do with covid, thank you
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QuarkJets posted:It's meaningful because when someone complains about the unvaxxed you can know immediately that anyone who responds with "why do you hate brown people" is just a disingenuous shitlord. Not directed at you specifically, but everybody who won't let this go Can we just agree: 1- There are a variety of institutional problems that create barriers for PoC to get immunized 2- People being angry at the unvaccinated in this thread are referring to MAGAs, not marginalized communities 3- Anybody suggesting 1) or 2) is false is being a dumb poo poo
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QuarkJets posted:It's meaningful because when someone complains about the unvaxxed you can know immediately that anyone who responds with "why do you hate brown people" is just a disingenuous shitlord.
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Crackbone posted:Not directed at you specifically, but everybody who won't let this go Exactly. Just as it's also true that no one here is buying into the lie that covid cases are being driven by immigrants The group of people that we're griping about are MAGA chuds feeding horse medicine to their children
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QuarkJets posted:It's meaningful because when someone complains about the unvaxxed you can know immediately that anyone who responds with "why do you hate brown people" is just a disingenuous shitlord. I think we're just focused on different things. I'll stop making GBS threads up the thread since I don't think most people are concerned what's largely a semantic argument by me. Crackbone posted:Not directed at you specifically, but everybody who won't let this go I agree with all of this.
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there is no excuse, in the middle of August, in the United States of America, to not be vaccinated. if you are not vaccinated by now, it is by choice. other countries are still waiting to vaccinate their people, yet Americans who aren't vaccinated did so because they did not want one. you can walk into any pharmacy, anywhere, at anytime, and get one. literally everybody knows this by now. no excuse.
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Peter Daou Zen posted:there is no excuse, in the middle of August, in the United States of America, to not be vaccinated. This is only true when you assume that everyone has your access to the quality of information in this thread. If you're illiterate, if you're homeless, if you don't speak english, if you're afraid of ICE, got into bankruptcy before by seeking medical care, etc you might not have the same understanding.
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Crackbone posted:Not directed at you specifically, but everybody who won't let this go
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Yeah, I missed Peter Daou Zen's post. I can only assume they just don't get it. I hope.
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Zugzwang posted:It’s super cool that we are returning to the times when medical emergencies are way likelier to kill you because emergency departments are overflowing with covid patients. Yea, my mom knows someone who died because of this last week. He was having cardio issues so he went to the ER. After waiting a long-rear end time he got frustrated and went back home. Ended up having a heart attack in his sleep and died in the ambulance. Also her best friend caught Covid and was hospitalized. Her husband is 400+ pounds and isn't vaxxed. He's lucky as gently caress he didn't catch it, because he'd be dead. She didn't get a vax because she doesn't trust the government. He didn't get it because he was waiting for her. They were both Junior College professors for decades. My uncle caught it at a small Easter service which infected like half of those that attended. He was going to get vaxxed but was waiting to meet with his general practitioner rather than going to get a free jab. He was on vent for two weeks. This poo poo sucks lol
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Squashy posted:This poo poo sucks lol  and sorry about your mom’s friend/acquaintance :-(
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LanceHunter posted:There is this weird internet trend ever since Biden took office where someone will invent a completely implausible/illegal solution to a problem ("Joe Biden could use Section 1881A of the Social Security Act to enact Medicare for All by executive order!"), then rant that because Biden is not doing that exact completely imaginary thing means that he is personally 100% responsible for every bad thing that they think their solution would solve. Counterpoint, Biden's entire pandemic response plan seems to be making "get vaccinated!" tweets from his bunker. It's clear that between breakthrough cases, the impossibility of herd immunity, and the vaccines diminishing effectiveness, and schoolkids going back soon, getting vaccinated isn't enough. What's Biden do? "can't turn back the clock, full steam ahead, open 'er up!"
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https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210804/will-the-delta-variant-peak-and-then-burn-out "When will the Delta Variant peak and burn out? " Actual predictions from experts in the article: MAYBE in August, or September, or October, or we don't know Thanks, webMD!
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210804/will-the-delta-variant-peak-and-then-burn-out Yeah but this is the same webMD that told me i either have cancer, IBS, strep, or a food allergy
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Squashy posted:Yea, my mom knows someone who died because of this last week. He was having cardio issues so he went to the ER. After waiting a long-rear end time he got frustrated and went back home. Ended up having a heart attack in his sleep and died in the ambulance. Not blindly trusting the government is cool and good but that's a very flimsy excuse for not getting vaccinated since there are a hundred other trustworthy sources to turn to
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wilderthanmild posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1424783910622273564 I don't know about the US Military, but in the Canadian Forces they get you caught up on all your vaccines during Basic Training, and it's neither optional nor a big deal. So to see any pushback from folks who normally get poked anyway friggin blows my mind.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210804/will-the-delta-variant-peak-and-then-burn-out According to webMD, you have cancer not covid.
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I rage-listened to Ben Shapiro’s radio show in the car because I’m an idiot and the chucklefuck had the nerve to say “so far only around 300 children aged 12 and under have died from Covid in America” and use that as an argument to OPEN UP DEM BEACHES because as per usual the right wing in America is a death cult and child death is their favorite delicacy
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Okay so anyone who still isn’t vaccinated in the USA is a victim of disinformation, distrusts the government, and/or is part of a community that generally (and incorrectly) perceives the medical and economic risks of vaccination to be greater than the risks of actually catching covid. It’s only bad if they are right wing. Do I have that right? Even though if you talk to average working people the underlying reasons for vaccine hesitancy are largely the same?
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so why is everyone still acting like this will ever go away and the way forward isn't reacting to variants as soon as possible with regular booster shots tailored to new infection vectors
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The Walrus posted:so why is everyone still acting like this will ever go away and the way forward isn't reacting to variants as soon as possible with regular booster shots tailored to new infection vectors
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Can't wait for the inevitable generation of COVID-brains, like the lead poisoned generation, except more preventable.
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satanic splash-back posted:Can't wait for the inevitable generation of COVID-brains, like the lead poisoned generation, except more preventable. Some might say brain damage is an advantage for your soldiers in the upcoming water wars of 2040s
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Lol at door to door shots. We've got MTG telling folks to shoot at anyone approaching the house. We've got Deathsantis blocking a schools funding if they try to implement a mask mandate. But the military forcing vaccine on people? I mean, yeah, a guy in camo and access to drones could get the job done, but you'd be vaccinating a mother and her child. The dad would be blown up or shot.
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Mush Mushi posted:Okay so anyone who still isn’t vaccinated in the USA is a victim of disinformation, distrusts the government, and/or is part of a community that generally (and incorrectly) perceives the medical and economic risks of vaccination to be greater than the risks of actually catching covid. Yes good job you cracked the case
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