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Aahh gently caress I started thinking about Aliens again! It's too good!!
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Biplane posted:Aahh gently caress I started thinking about Aliens again! It's too good!! You are in good company... my friend.
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Aug 9, 2021 02:42
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The world of aliens feels so authentic, and the story is so coherent, tight, and flows logically. Movies dont do that anymore, all the good writers and directors were used as breeding hosts for a new form of parasite hack gently caress heads. Ridley Scott is an android copy of the real Ridley who died immediately following the release of aliens
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Aug 9, 2021 02:48
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Xenomrph posted:Thinking about Predator (the movie) 
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Aug 9, 2021 03:25
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Thinking about Aliens... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB6O7jS_VBM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK_iZZ4Bx2o
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Aug 9, 2021 04:37
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Neo Rasa posted:Thinking about Aliens... The mouth parts on the larval hairworm are very xenomorph. The mind control is very Resident Evil 4. The little factoids in that game were quite the introduction to parasitic brain fuckery for a younger me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijGdWn5-h8 BaldDwarfOnPCP fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 9, 2021 |
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Aug 9, 2021 04:53
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Greggster posted:Glad they decided to cut it, considering how Ripley was so adamant about not having the grunts go in with guns loaded because of the environment they were in (imagine having an actual explosion go off, like a hand grenade.)
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Aug 9, 2021 11:41
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Biplane posted:The world of aliens feels so authentic, and the story is so coherent, tight, and flows logically. Movies dont do that anymore, all the good writers and directors were used as breeding hosts for a new form of parasite hack gently caress heads. Ridley Scott is an android copy of the real Ridley who died immediately following the release of aliens In a way Alien killed film making Splicer fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Aug 9, 2021 |
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Aug 9, 2021 11:43
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Isn't the main reason the Burke scene was cut because Cameron realised it was nonsensical? Burke's grabbed, dragged back to the hive, cocooned, implanted, regains conscious and can feel it moving in under 40 minutes. Even considering the AvPs and Covenant's screwed up pump & dump facehuggers, that's a ludicrously short time scale. Besides, the place is toast in 10 minutes anyway, he just needs to stick it out a little longer, no point in wasting a grenade on his dumb rear end.
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Aug 9, 2021 14:43
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The way I rationalized his impregnation is that he actually wasn’t - he thought he was because he’d been unconscious and then he woke up in the hive and he assumed the worst. He says he can “feel it” but hey, the mind does crazy poo poo when you’re scared. Then AVP and Alien Covenant came along and messed with the gestation timeline so now all bets are off. 
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Aug 9, 2021 15:52
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The gestation timeline was never really consistent from the start, though?. Kane only takes a few minutes to get to the mess hall and then he pops pretty much immediately. For some reason the cocooned colonist in the hive takes a while, although it's possible they managed to hide from the aliens until almost when the marines arrived. I can't remember exactly what happens in 3 (isn't there some sequence at the beginning implying the alien was in Newt and escaped her to find itself in Ripley? Or was that just in the comics), but Ripley seems to live with it for like, several days - maybe this is rationalized as "it's a queen, they take longer"?
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Aug 9, 2021 16:53
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Kane was facehugged for about 24 hours, though.
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Aug 9, 2021 17:11
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It's never been consistent but that's fine with me because the age and condition of the stuff varies wildly too. Like Kane's gestation is IIRC the second longest in the movies (with just Ripley's in Alien 3 being slower). There's so many variables though like the derelict in Alien comes off as exceptionally old compared to even the engineer ruins in Prometheus so it would be reasonable that its cargo is a bit off. In Alien 3 it's a queen, in AvP it's like the Predator's big game breeding stock meant to be "flipped on" whenever the Predators want to do their initiation stuff. In Prometheus IIRC it was like almost solid day for stuff to get bad with Holloway and Shaw. Like especially if the facehugger works by implanting the victim with some spore/parasitic material instead of a fully formed egg, an individual's physiology would effect how long it takes.
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Aug 9, 2021 17:44
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In the Alien Resurrection novelization they explain Purvis’ extra-long gestation with him having a thyroid condition.
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Aug 9, 2021 17:46
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Neo Rasa posted:It's never been consistent but that's fine with me because the age and condition of the stuff varies wildly too. Facehuggers are just full of black goo goodness
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Aug 9, 2021 19:35
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They're organic creatures, so there shouldn't be a set timer on how long it takes for a thing to gestate. I'd assumed there were individual variances, like some people take a couple of days, others take a couple of hours. My assumption was that the facehugger humping Kane's face for a whole day or so, I'd put down to it being in an unfamiliar environment, so it sticks around for as long as it is able to, in order to "protect" the host. In contrast, the "kill me" colonist that the Marines encounter in Aliens was cocooned up in a nest, surrounded by xenos, so once the implanting was done, it would bugger off to quietly die somewhere else.
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Aug 9, 2021 20:17
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This brings up an interesting theory that a chestburster can sense external stimuli from the host & recognize when an environment is ok for them to come out.
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Neo Rasa posted:There's a way for this to happen in the Alien RPG in a much cooler/creepier way imo and it's set up to be an extremely rare WTF centerpiece of a session/campaign. It only happens in the very rare chance that someone who's been implanted by a facehugger* gets the black goo on them also. So that instead of the goo mutating just the person it interacts with the both the person and the embryo and since it's more compatible with the embryo. What makes it awesome though is that they have the end result be a xenomorph with a translucent exoskeleton but a human skull/some human bones still inside it also because they didn't get pushed out while the mutation happened. Basically the found a way to have the gross-out "body burster" like in the Gibson script while also having the older design for the xenomorph in Alien 1 in one go. They opted to paint over it instead for the film but IIRC you can very briefly make out the human skull in its head during the scene where it kills Brett in some cuts. Even better, we have pictures of the original design with the skull showing:  It is pretty creepy.
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Aug 9, 2021 23:15
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That is fuckin terrifying
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Aug 9, 2021 23:16
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That reminds me a lot of the newborn. And yes, that is terrifying. More than the newborn. Although that previous pic looks like the xeno is about to have a cigarette. Or is bored waiting for the school bus to come.
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Aug 9, 2021 23:31
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Although that previous pic looks like the xeno is about to have a cigarette. Or is bored waiting for the school bus to come. Someone should 'shop on some Adidas stripes, and stick a wall carpet behind him.
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Aug 9, 2021 23:58
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Sentinel Red posted:Someone should 'shop on some Adidas stripes, and stick a wall carpet behind him. 
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Aug 10, 2021 00:07
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The original 1979 Kenner Alien figure, the one that was like 14” tall, had the clear carapace on top of the head, and beneath it you could see the skull. And the skull part glowed in the dark, if I recall.
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Aug 10, 2021 01:35
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MrMojok posted:The original 1979 Kenner Alien figure, the one that was like 14” tall, had the clear carapace on top of the head, and beneath it you could see the skull. Those retro xenomorph toys include one with the transluscent skull. Neca's reaction i think?
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Aug 10, 2021 02:39
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 The original toy run got yanked due to parents screaming about it. Here's a site showing the various versions of it. https://www.hideousplastic.com/?page_id=607 It's been re released 14 times. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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Aug 10, 2021 02:40
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Wait, what? Like an actual rerelease of the Kenner mold or just 14 other big chaps with a translucent skull heads? I’ve wanted an original since I first saw one at a comic book store when I was about seven yrs old. Even then (1988/89 ish) they were stupid expensive and from what I understand made from super cheap plastic that sometimes just broke even if the figure had never been taken out of the box. If there’s been actual rereleases I’d be so loving down.
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Aug 10, 2021 03:11
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These are the ones i'm talking about
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Why does it have two right hands
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Why does it have two right hands Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility
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Aug 10, 2021 03:27
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Why does it have two right hands It doesn’t, the one in the first movie had six fingers (two thumbs) per hand.
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Aug 10, 2021 03:50
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Huh definitely never noticed that. Seeing it 3/4 of the time on vhs prob didn't help
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Yep Edit— bonus skull partially visible in that photo 
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Why does it have two right hands Because he uses a Stand that uses the power of reflections, and is being pursued by a Frenchman with a distinctive hairstyle.
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The Last Call posted:Even better, we have pictures of the original design with the skull showing: It's so loving good. Great Alien RPG background tracks via slowing down the film soundtracks hehee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rovgPMcqxRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqIOZxtAfs
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Aug 10, 2021 05:23
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Xenomorph clinging to that egg like it just walked out of GameStop with a PS5
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Improbable Lobster posted:These are the ones i'm talking about The mouth on this guy makes it look nerdy and gormless as gently caress. Its like Urkel got facehugged or something.
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Aug 10, 2021 13:59
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Sentinel Red posted:The mouth on this guy makes it look nerdy and gormless as gently caress. Its like Urkel got facehugged or something. Also the way his hands are positioned, it looks like he's getting ready to sneak around on his tippy toes Scooby Doo style
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Sentinel Red posted:Someone should 'shop on some Adidas stripes, and stick a wall carpet behind him. Blyat-Yutani
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Also the way his hands are positioned, it looks like he's getting ready to sneak around on his tippy toes Scooby Doo style I smell an excellent crossover opportunity here…
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Also the way his hands are positioned, it looks like he's getting ready to sneak around on his tippy toes Scooby Doo style
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