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Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Goon Boots posted:

What is an army rally competition? Like seeing who can do the best parade drills?

Since it's part of a exercise and they are using trucks, I assume it's like a rally competition rally. Get from start to finish following a set of directions telling you where to go.

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The only difference between communism and capitalism is 700k Covid deaths and magnetic levitation trains.

propaganda video time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q8z_y0Ye7U

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Mayman10: May 11, 2019

The Chinese ambassador to the UN followed me on twitter, I think this means I'm officially a CPC bot now.

# ? Aug 10, 2021 07:01

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Mayman10 posted:

The Chinese ambassador to the UN followed me on twitter, I think this means I'm officially a CPC bot now.

respect for your shitposting prowess

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shrike82: Jun 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/manyapan/status/1424311908866351106?s=20

# ? Aug 10, 2021 07:44

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

after the recent outbreak they tested 11.3 million people in wuhan and found 9 cases.

https://twitter.com/BloombergAsia/status/1424532989455781894?s=20

# ? Aug 10, 2021 08:17

Mayman10: May 11, 2019

crepeface posted:

after the recent outbreak they tested 11.3 million people in wuhan and found 9 cases.

https://twitter.com/BloombergAsia/status/1424532989455781894?s=20

Bloomberg news had a story out recently lambasting China for attempting to fight the virus instead of learning to live with it, like the West. Somehow China is the bad guy for trying to ensure the virus doesn't become endemic in their population.

# ? Aug 10, 2021 08:57

Goon Boots: Feb 2, 2020

Lostconfused posted:

Since it's part of a exercise and they are using trucks, I assume it's like a rally competition rally. Get from start to finish following a set of directions telling you where to go.

Oh yeah, that's exactly what it is.

Here's a similar one from 2018 as part of a larger army games thing.

https://armygames2018.mil.ru/military_rally_en.html

They also have a tank biathlon!

https://armygames2018.mil.ru/tank_biathlon_en.html

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shrike82: Jun 11, 2005

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/china-death-sentence-canadian-robert-schellenberg-michael-spavor

quote:

China court upholds death sentence against Canadian Robert Schellenberg

A Chinese court has upheld a death sentence against Canadian citizen Robert Schellenberg.

Schellenberg has been detained in China since 2014, when he was accused of attempting to smuggle 225kg of methamphetamine to Australia. He has maintained his innocence. In December 2018 he was sentenced to 15 years but after he appealed a retrial was ordered and the Dalian intermediate people�s court instead ordered his execution.

you love to see it

# ? Aug 10, 2021 10:04

Mayman10: May 11, 2019

shrike82 posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/china-death-sentence-canadian-robert-schellenberg-michael-spavor

you love to see it

Just to note, during the retrial the prosecution brought forward new evidence that caused the court to bump up his punishment to the death penalty. The punishment isn't allowed to be aggravated otherwise in a retrial.

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gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Mayman10 posted:

Just to note, during the retrial the prosecution brought forward new evidence that caused the court to bump up his punishment to the death penalty. The punishment isn't allowed to be aggravated otherwise in a retrial.

shrike82 posted:

you love to see it

# ? Aug 10, 2021 10:15

Zedhe Khoja: Nov 10, 2017; sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

also jesus christ thats alot of meth

# ? Aug 10, 2021 10:49

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Zedhe Khoja posted:

also jesus christ thats alot of meth

lol look at this lightweight

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Zedhe Khoja: Nov 10, 2017; sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

swandiving into a tub of meth like scrooge mc~~duck~~meth

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AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

shrike82 posted:

it's also been amazing how the narrative about Iran being a strong counter-American presence in the Middle East fell apart given how lovely their response to covid has been

I wonder why the response to covid has been so lovely for a country that the US is genociding with sanctions.

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Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

personally i think its because they turned away from the path to true socialism by not being aggressive enough against bitcoin

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Zedhe Khoja posted:

also jesus christ thats alot of meth

225 kg of "muh hooman rights because I'm clearly just a casual user with no trafficking intentions"

# ? Aug 10, 2021 12:58

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

How can you tell which Middle East country is responding to covid well or not well? You only have their reported number to work with.

It's like for India only Kerala is reporting the true numbers and doing large scaled testing, how can you tell which part of India has good response to covid?

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shrike82: Jun 11, 2005

that's true, now apply the same logic to China

# ? Aug 10, 2021 13:03

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

shrike's take isn't bad because "well the reporting might be off", shrike's take is bad because of loving course the country that's under a US sanctions regime is going to have a problem dealing with COVID

what's next? "whoops, looks like Cuba dropped the ball on COVID for not vaccinating fast enough!"

# ? Aug 10, 2021 13:05

shrike82: Jun 11, 2005

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-one-person-dying-covid-19-every-two-minutes-2021-08-09/

quote:

DUBAI, Aug 9 (Reuters) - One person is now dying from COVID-19 every two minutes in Iran, state TV said on Monday, as the Middle East�s worst-hit nation reported a new record daily toll of 588 fatalities.

With authorities complaining of poor social distancing, state media say hospitals in several cities have run out of beds for new patients. Some social media users have criticised the clerical establishment over slow vaccinations, with only about 4% of the 83 million population fully inoculated.

hopefully that'll keep the regime occupied

# ? Aug 10, 2021 13:10

Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

shrike82 posted:

that's true, now apply the same logic to China

If China did nearly as poorly as the united states, there would be literal piles of corpses to dispose of. In proportion, it would be a causality count around 3-4 million. There would be absolutely no way to hide those numbers.

In New York, the morgues and hospitals were overflowing such that they were digging mass grave. They were storing corpses in freezer trucks and running out of freezer trucks. If that poo poo had happened in China, in the age of the camera phone, there'd be pictures.

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LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

Cpt_Obvious posted:

In New York, the morgues and hospitals were overflowing such that they were digging mass grave.

It's worth noting though that there's always been mass graves for New York, for people who aren't claimed by any family. Of course with COVID and there being more deaths they had more burials there than normal for that period, but some of the articles et al that claimed those were mass graves made specifically for COVID, or trying to cover up the severity of COVID et al were fake news.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...during-pandemic

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Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

"oh these are just our regular mass Graves" isn't really a good defense

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LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

It�s not a �defense� it�s just important context because a bunch of people were under the impression that NYC literally couldn�t handle the mountains of dead and were panickedly opening mass graves as a last resort, which was never the case.

Mass graves (though the term is a bit deceptive and brings up images of a hole in the ground with exposed bodies, instead of the reality of everyone in individual coffins) as a policy for unclaimed or unidentifed dead itself is a separate subject.

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Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

LimburgLimbo posted:

It’s not a “defense” it’s just important context because a bunch of people were under the impression that NYC literally couldn’t handle the mountains of dead and were panickedly opening mass graves as a last resort, which was never the case.

Mass graves (though the term is a bit deceptive and brings up images of a hole in the ground with exposed bodies, instead of the reality of everyone in individual coffins) as a policy for unclaimed or unidentifed dead itself is a separate subject.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/us/new-york-coronavirus-victims-refrigerated-trucks/index.html

quote:

Bodies of Covid-19 victims are still stored in refrigerated trucks in NYC
By Mirna Alsharif and Ray Sanchez, CNN
Updated 5:05 PM EDT, Fri May 07, 2021
Refrigerated trucks served as temporary morgues at the South Brooklyn Marine Terminal on May 6, 2020.
(CNN)The bodies of New York City coronavirus victims are still being stored in refrigerated trailers converted into makeshift morgues during the height of the pandemic one year ago, according to the medical examiner's office.

The long-term temporary morgue at the South Brooklyn Marine Terminal holding 750 bodies -- not all victims of Covid-19 -- is a reminder of the crush of coronavirus fatalities that overwhelmed city hospitals, mortuaries and funeral homes last spring.

In early April 2020, more than 800 coronavirus deaths were reported in a single day in New York City. During the week of April 5, an average of 566 were dying every day in the city, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Long term storage was created at the height of the pandemic to ensure that families could lay their loved ones to rest as they see fit," said Mark Desire, a spokesman for the Office of Chief Medical Examiner.

In late March 2020, refrigerated trailers also served as makeshift morgues outside city hospitals amid the surging death count in the epicenter of the nation's coronavirus pandemic.

The last time New York resorted to such drastic measures was after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when the medical examiner's office had to identify tens of thousands of body parts from the 2,753 people killed in the World Trade Center collapse.

Desire said the medical examiner's office is assisting families in making arrangements for final resting places for

"With sensitivity and compassion, we continue to work with individual families on a case-by-case basis during their period of mourning," Desire said.

The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner had purchased additional refrigerated trucks and the Federal Emergency Management Agency had provided the city with 80 of its trucks last year.

City officials announced last April that a potter's field for the poor and unclaimed on Hart Island would be used to bury victims of the virus.

Desire said the temporary morgue at the South Brooklyn Marine Terminal "was established to provide longer term storage for decedents during the peak of the pandemic when the funeral industry was stressed."

"This additional storage capacity gave the families the time they needed to make final disposition arrangements," he said.

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Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

The point being: NYC was still dealing with all the bodies a year later. There's no way in hell China could just hide millions of corpses.

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LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

Cpt_Obvious posted:

There's no way in hell China could just hide millions of corpses.

I agree with this and not debating this part, just taking issue with one part of your post which was deceptively framed, and which I think you genuinely have a misunderstanding of the reality.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The point being: NYC was still dealing with all the bodies a year later.

Lets look at another more recent article on this from the AP:

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-nyc-temporary-morgue-20210705-mmct3dx5fvfl7fi2icygaagzzy-story.html

quote:

On a sun-soaked morning last month, a dozen mourners gathered by a freshly dug grave to bury four people who were cast into limbo as New York City contended with COVID-19.

Each was among hundreds of people whose bodies have lingered in a temporary morgue that was set up at the height of the city�s coronavirus crisis last year and where about 200 bodies remain, not all of them virus victims.

The fenced-off temporary morgue on a pier in an industrial part of Brooklyn is out of sight and mind for many as the city celebrates its pandemic progress by dropping restrictions and even setting off fireworks. But the facility � which the city plans to close by the end of the summer � stands as a reminder of the loss, upheaval and wrenching choices the virus inflicted in one of its deadliest U.S. hotspots.

James Brown, George Davis, Diane Quince and Charles Varga died of various causes between three and nine months before their mid-June burial in Staten Island�s airy Ocean View Cemetery. Officials found no next of kin.

�But we know that they lived, not friendless, but with friends and family,� Edwina Frances Martin, Staten Island�s public administrator of estates, told a handful of Brown�s friends and volunteers who attend such funerals. �Because now they�re all part of our family. And we�re a part of theirs.�

Some New Yorkers are troubled that hundreds of others at the morgue still wait to be laid to rest.

�Still these bodies wait � for what?� asks Kiki Valentine, a Brooklyn minister and funeral services assistant. She wrote to officials to seek an explanation and propose steps she feels could help, such as publishing public obituaries for the deceased.

Virus deaths alone peaked above 800 a day citywide at one point in April 2020 � deaths from all causes usually average about 150 � and overwhelmed funeral homes, cemeteries and hospital morgues. The temporary morgue was established that month to give families more time to arrange funerals after the city shortened its timeframe for holding remains before burying them in a public cemetery on remote Hart Island. There is no rule for how long bodies can stay at the temporary facility.

�There was way too much death for the system to handle,� recalls Amy Koplow, the executive director of the Hebrew Free Burial Association, which is interring some Jewish people who were at the temporary morgue.

�We feel really good that we are able to bury these people who have been unburied and in limbo for so long,� she said.

Still, Koplow feels the medical examiner�s office did its best in a maelstrom. Many cases require considerable searching for relatives, a will or other indications of the deceased�s wishes, she noted.

As the medical examiner�s office prepares to close the temporary facility, the agency has stopped taking newly deceased people there, and investigators are working to contact relatives and determine final arrangements for the roughly 200 whose remains are left, spokesman Mark Desire said via email last week.

That�s down from 750 when the agency briefed City Council members in early May, saying investigators had found relatives in most cases but was awaiting their decisions or had stopped hearing back from them.

Desire didn�t respond to questions about where bodies removed from the facility have been taken, why the temporary morgue stayed in use after the 2020 surge subsided or how many of the deceased there are virus victims.

Eric Adams, the Brooklyn borough president and mayoral hopeful, has asked City Hall to ensure that every effort is made to reach relatives of the deceased and help with applications for government-paid funeral reimbursement, spokesman Ryan Lynch said. (The city can provide up to $1,700, and a federal program specific to COVID-19 deaths allows up to $9,000. Burial on Hart Island is free.)

Meanwhile, Rabbi Regina Sandler-Phillips � who has organized volunteers to keep at-home vigils for the dead around the world, especially the unclaimed and unnamed � ventures periodically to an unobtrusive spot near the temporary morgue. She goes to bear witness �to what is not seen, and those who are not named,� she says.

The pain surrounding the facility�s creation and continued use �highlights the difficulties of how we honor the dead,� she says.

The group at the Ocean View Cemetery on June 17 was there to bear witness, too.

�We don�t want them to go to their final resting place alone,� said Diane Kramer, a volunteer with a charity called the Foundation for Dignity. It works with Martin�s office, which arranged the burial at the private cemetery.

Little information could be confirmed about Davis, who was 76, or Quince, 62.

Varga, 81, had a background in information science and business consulting, spoke four languages and worked in recent years on a documentary film about homelessness, according to his social media profiles.

He was in poor health, said friend Sandra Andrews, who said he was estranged from his relatives but became a father figure to her after they met in 2010. She said she tried to find out what happened to him after he was hospitalized in February but learned of his Feb. 2 death only from The Associated Press.

�I didn�t get an opportunity to properly say goodbye to him,� she said by email.

Brown, 51, was a taxi driver and dispatcher on and off for 30 years, according to co-worker Desereeanne Fisher and boss Anton Kumar.

They said Brown was hardworking and sometimes even slept in the office, where co-workers still have his beloved bowling ball.

He told friends he�d been disconnected from his family since childhood, but he was �a friend to everybody,� Fisher said, wiping tears. �Anything you needed, he would do for you.�

Brown fell and hit his head at a convenience store this past March 2 and was found dead in his van minutes later, killed by a blood clot, Fisher said. She said his colleagues wanted to arrange and chip in for a funeral but hit roadblocks because they weren�t relatives.

�It�s been no closure� since his death, she said, relieved to know he�d finally been buried in a shady plot, with a plaque dedicated by his friends.

�He might not have had family,� she said, �but he had a lot of people that loved him.�

Basically the facility was created during the peak and stuck around, as a place to store more unclaimed bodies instead of being so quick to put them into the Hart Island graves, presumably especially given that where normally people could travel with more ease to identify or deal with unclaimed/unidentified bodies, COVID made that more difficult or dangerous. You're framing this as though they're still not able to handle the number of bodies when that isn't the case (at least for now; could need the capacity at some point with Delta) and they're just continuing to use a facility that they made during the emergency period, with plans to close it soon.

But yeah it's purely a nitpick where I wasn't a fan of your, in my mind, deceptive or uninformed framing, and it's a derail not to do with Asia poo poo so I'll say no more.

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AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

shrike82 posted:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-one-person-dying-covid-19-every-two-minutes-2021-08-09/

hopefully that'll keep the regime occupied

You're such a loving ghoul, stop posting in cspam.

# ? Aug 10, 2021 14:27

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

shrike82 posted:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-one-person-dying-covid-19-every-two-minutes-2021-08-09/

hopefully that'll keep the regime occupied

lol i was wondering when your muslim hate boner would appear

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swimsuit: Jan 22, 2009; yeah

its cool how people in d&d are banned when they politely question the state department line, but in cspam we have multiple mods dying for the right to post loli

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Cpt_Obvious: Jun 18, 2007

LimburgLimbo posted:

Basically the facility was created during the peak and stuck around, as a place to store more unclaimed bodies instead of being so quick to put them into the Hart Island graves, presumably especially given that where normally people could travel with more ease to identify or deal with unclaimed/unidentified bodies, COVID made that more difficult or dangerous. You're framing this as though they're still not able to handle the number of bodies when that isn't the case (at least for now; could need the capacity at some point with Delta) and they're just continuing to use a facility that they made during the emergency period, with plans to close it soon.

Wow, those first two sentences.

And you should reread what I said:

quote:

The point being: NYC was still dealing with all the bodies a year later.

None of which conflicts with your AP source from 2 months later. It still took about a year to handle all the bodies, which were still in freezer trucks in May 2021. HTH.

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

shrike82 posted:

https://twitter.com/manyapan/status/1424311908866351106?s=20

that one lady got some kicks in but this is the tamest street brawl i've ever seen. this is clearly the future for americans too once the CCP removes our spirit and will to resist.

# ? Aug 10, 2021 15:36

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1425109009477120010?s=19

# ? Aug 10, 2021 16:03

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Youtube recommended this slice of life doc to me randomly and I enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkYhSsQqRhI

The youngest husband just got out of college, he is totally going to run off soon.

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Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

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Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/rumorahasit/status/1424549805750202370

as someone from balkan: jesus motherfucking christ those prices lmfao

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genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

Truga posted:

as someone from balkan: jesus motherfucking christ those prices lmfao

Also lol at the Vietnamese Cevapcici.

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Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

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