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Milo and POTUS posted:It's a shame they don't seem to have PT worth a drat. They apparently got a great or at least extensive skybridge system in a climate that probably benefits it PT? yes they have a nice skyway system in the two downtown areas I thought briefly about the car sharing thing, but the nearest lot is 1.5 miles away, and again dealing with a larger dog with that is a huge pain. I do try to do all my errands in one trip, which is typically no more than 15 minutes each way, and I have a couple grocery stores I can walk to when the weather isn't terrible.
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This is a really good youtube channel that talks about city planning and how cars are poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXNVnftaNs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgvYgxo6UY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
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I know here there's definitely been issues with crime, mainly at the light rail stations. I think part of is that anyone can mill around the stations, it's not like a subway where you have to pay to get to the entry point. I can see why certain people (especially women) would feel unsafe at some times. I would imagine with Amsterdam, having such high density helps reduce that, because there's always a lot of people around. his video "you don't need a car if you don't drive to work" isn't completely accurate, at least where I am. He talks about two types of carsharing, one which has fixed lots - we have that here, but there are only two companies - and then the ones where you just leave or pick up a car anywhere you can park, which does not exist in my city at all. actionjackson has issued a correction as of 18:06 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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ekuNNN posted:This is a really good youtube channel that talks about city planning and how cars are poo poo Not just bike is cool City beautiful is cool too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJkzX6sy6sE and JayForeman has a few things here and there, but more focused on London. https://www.youtube.com/c/JayForeman/videos Edit: Adam something is going for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SacQ2YdVOyk mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 00:47 on Aug 11, 2021 |
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ekuNNN posted:This is a really good youtube channel that talks about city planning and how cars are poo poo I had just watched the stroad episode and went to a city planning workshop last week and I was all. "The problem for both cyclists and car jerks is TOO MANY STROADS in this drat city". And one of the staffers was like "omg I know!" And everyone else was like "what's a stroad?" And the staffer explained it and everyone even the the car jerks was like "yeah stroads suck!" And then they all stood up and clapped the end. But seriously folks show up to every possible workshop, visioning session, focus group and volunteer on campaigns and make your city councillors know your name. Ain't poo poo gonna be done on anything but the municipal level to reduce car dependancy but in the city there are battles to be fought and won.
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The problem is really just at heart of the political system, those in power really don't care because car culture is both of the path of least resistance and lucrative while a real alternative would be probably pretty costly and disruptive because how screwed up the system actually is. Stroads, big-box stores, and a lack of investment aren't accidental. (That said at a certain point every c-spam thread leads back to itself.)
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Xaris posted:cars are good and helps marginalized bipoc elderly, dementia patients, and disabled people get around safely. not everyone can figure out a bus timeschedule and its pretty ableist to hate cars ok but what if cars caused them to have dementia and be disabled ps, we should hard cap speed limits to 40. if you disagree you’re suicidal and need therapy, imo https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/new-crash-tests-show-modest-speed-increases-can-have-deadly-consequences mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 01:04 on Aug 11, 2021 |
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mawarannahr posted:ok but what if cars caused them to have dementia and be disabled
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mawarannahr posted:ok but what if cars caused them to have dementia and be disabled it is completely insane how fast people drive even in residential areas. like i go for walks with my kid sometimes (pushing him in a stroller, and walking in the street because we don't have any sidewalks here lol) and people will go zooming past at like 30 mph. and again this is a residential street that's barely wide enough for two cars to pass each other, not exactly a stroad. you would think seeing someone pushing a stroller would cause people to slow down, but no.
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Xaris posted:no, speed limits are unconstitutional and racist. poor marginalized folk dont have time to leave for work early, they're too brow-beaten and if they clock in 1 minute late they get fired. so we gotta zoom fast to makeup for lost-time sitting too long at the last light. and elderly drivers with dementia cant read their spedometer very well and its' very ableist to punish them for that. speed limits should be abolished this but unironically
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miniscule12 posted:this but unironically gently caress you Also the only good car hellotoothpaste posted:Let’s get this back in here
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Anyway, cars aren’t necessary, they were simply forced to become nearly necessary.
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Leroy Diplowski posted:gently caress you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuBQkmD26wA
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Aww hell yeah! "Hey buddy can I get a jump?" "Sorry, I don't have a car" "Nah nah I need you to like jump on my car" "Putt putt putt vroooom"
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xaris is just joshing obviously but here's another one to add to the 'you will never get dutch permanent residency' pile of sadness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSGx3HSjKDo
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lobster shirt posted:it is completely insane how fast people drive even in residential areas. like i go for walks with my kid sometimes (pushing him in a stroller, and walking in the street because we don't have any sidewalks here lol) and people will go zooming past at like 30 mph. and again this is a residential street that's barely wide enough for two cars to pass each other, not exactly a stroad. you would think seeing someone pushing a stroller would cause people to slow down, but no. Giving a gently caress about other people is unamerican
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can it go faster than a guinea pig or is that its top speed
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Having to drive so drat much is one of the reasons I left Houston - even out in the burbs of DC I still take a bus to subway stop to take it into the city for work, it rules Houston is a particularly frustrating situation because there were so. Many. Opportunities. To have even just basic rail and a bus system that actually makes sense but they were blocked every step of the way by -rear end in a top hat republicans -nimby pieces of poo poo -real estate assholes -dems who are some the biggest pussy rear end losers in the nation who just sat back and spent 30+ years going "well shucks, better things arent possible" and doing absolutely nothing to change poo poo Now they have light rail that is like 10 miles long and isnt even grade separated so you have it running into cars or being hit by cars and even getting stuck in loving traffic which is breathtakingly stupid
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Me reading the thread:
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car companies conspired to literally make public transportation hell to make people buy cars in the streetcar conspiracy, were caught, and the powers in charge just shrugged their shoulders and it’s the reason to this day we have the lovely bus systems we have
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I think cars are cool from an engineering and artistic standpoint but they are pretty poo poo for any densely populated area, Busses would be perfect if there were no other traffic. Limit cars to like race tracks or some kind of national park but for driving. I mean look at this beauty 
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why do we need cars when we have ninjas
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Victory Position posted:how many mpg that get? Depends on how bad you flog it and whether you do a lot of top down but you can expect mid to high 40s, maybe 50 if you hypermile
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what do people do who have large dogs do in these western european cities? I suppose you could crate the dog and hope that avoids any messes, but are there like, dog taxi services?
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Cars are responsible for masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQTuYo6HmiQ
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Ardennes posted:The problem is really just at heart of the political system, those in power really don't care because car culture is both of the path of least resistance and lucrative while a real alternative would be probably pretty costly and disruptive because how screwed up the system actually is. Stroads, big-box stores, and a lack of investment aren't accidental. There was a really good post I read from a goon who helped the homeless. They used a great analogy when describing how difficult it was to help or fix anything when it came to their experience with people living on the street: "Every string you pull eventually leads back to the big ball of yarn called Capitalism"
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actionjackson posted:what do people do who have large dogs do in these western european cities? I suppose you could crate the dog and hope that avoids any messes, but are there like, dog taxi services? They loving love dogs and take their dogs on the tram or bus where I live. You can also take your dog into the pub, restaurants, pretty much wherever. You can even take your dog into the movie theater here where I live in central Europe. Like literally to watch a movie with you. It owns. edit: also I think crating at home is illegal, but it seems like muzzles are mandatory when dogs are out in public. Also all dogs are super well behaved and there isn't a single stray dog in this whole country which is kind of weird and the reason I don't have a dog yet, since I'm not ready to drop 1000 Euros on a pure bred and there is literally not a dog pound here like where we got all our dogs when I was a kid in the states. It just like doesn't exist. e: you can definitely take your dog in a taxi, yes. IAMKOREA has issued a correction as of 20:47 on Aug 11, 2021 |
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That's surprising, for public transit I'd be concerned about people with pet hair allergies, and for restaurants just general public health. You can have them here at breweries and such if they don't serve food inside. The crate thing is weird, I just got a new greyhound and she goes into her crate on her own pretty often, as they are used to it from when they are racing. If she wasn't crated when I was gone she'd definitely cause some havoc.
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actionjackson posted:what do people do who have large dogs do in these western european cities? I suppose you could crate the dog and hope that avoids any messes, but are there like, dog taxi services? I don't really understand the question. Dogs can walk? IAMKOREA posted:They loving love dogs and take their dogs on the tram or bus where I live. You can also take your dog into the pub, restaurants, pretty much wherever. Like you can even take your dog into the movie theater here where I live in central Europe. Like literally to watch a movie with you. It owns. Don't think I've ever seen dogs in movie theaters here, but in the city parts there are dog zones attached to most parks and you can bring them on the trams and subways.
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After commuting with my Trabant for 7 years, I have come to hate cars, too, OP.
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guidoanselmi posted:After commuting with my Trabant for 7 years, I have come to hate cars, too, OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfljj6d6Rvo
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It also sucks because driving as a skill is frankly too accessible. Like… people suck at zipper merges or loving speeding up during a clover leaf ramp. I didn’t drive for a decade, and because I kept up on my license, I was good to go once I decided to hop back in the saddle. No assessment of my skills or anything. Just renewing the license in-person or online. I wish at minimum, anyone under 20 and over 70 was tested biannually or something. And gently caress anyone who doesn’t use cruise control on the highway!
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One time long ago I read some stuff about the influence of the car lobby in politics and how hard they worked to overturn the sentiment people had towards cars at the beginning of the industry and I've been bikepilled ever since
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Cars are cool because their suspension can be rocked so that you can wedge yourself in between them by parallel parking with a bit of vigor Can't do that with trains
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Leroy Diplowski posted:This maybe a joke but it is such a dumb take that it hurts my teeth. It's so so so so much easier for the elderly and disabled to use a properly functioning transit system than coordinate rides with whoever in their life owns a car. I've lived in places where transportation was nonexistent and pretty decent and the difference is having a social life, being independent, having some autonomy, feeling like a human, vs. Being stuck in your house marinating in your own sorrow because you can only justify begging rides to the doctors appointment. I never saw old people so free as in Holland watching 80+ year olds cruise around in the bike lanes on their mobility scooters. The whole city is open to them and nobody blinks an eye.
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genericnick posted:I don't really understand the question. Dogs can walk? yeah, thanks, I'm talking about situations where they can't, for example medical procedures, that's all
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