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Dapper_Swindler posted:again. why are these so people upset about this poo poo. like the "WOKE=BROKE" poo poo is bullshit and has clearly been proven false. why do you give a gently caress about the muppet babies. Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here. CmdrKing posted:Honestly considering how tepid the blockbuster space is about that sort of thing, to some extent saying "actually the US are absolute monsters who dump their dirty projects on regimes they propped up for decades" at all could well be novel for a lot of the audience. Gotta wonder why you'd bring it up in the first place if you're gonna tackle it with feather duster gloves like that. It's comic books, you can do whatever you want.  Seems weird to keep it as close as possible to real life but every 3 weeks someone new shows up able to level a building no sweat and also the cops are still racist and America's still committing war crimes at a rapid fire rate like a rocket accelerating. Although I guess doing something like Wild West shootout but also Gorilla Grodd's army shows up would be a lot of CG for people to stomach.
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Aug 10, 2021 05:38
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RareAcumen posted:Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here. They usually have some minor example that turns out to reverse itself a little later. Like when Nike did that anti toxic masculinity ad, they did drop in value by some measurement in the very short term, but they'd soon recouped it many times over.
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Aug 10, 2021 05:40
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RareAcumen posted:Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here. Maybe the Paul Feig Ghostbusters? But I think that ended up being moderately successful, not that it would matter to the people using that phrase. Also, there was a Captain Marvel between the first one and Carol Danvers that Nova should recognize. She had light powers and was the Captain Marvel in Secret Wars.
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Aug 10, 2021 05:43
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RareAcumen posted:Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here. Gillette is commonly cited as an example. They released an ad talking toxic masculinity, there was a backlash, and over the next few years they lost a bunch of money (except that was the trajectory they were on anyway because of increased competition and beards being popular). Jose did a video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDvPVzPRiYA
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Aug 10, 2021 05:51
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RareAcumen posted:Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here. like, what does it mean to go broke while hauling in multimillions of box office profits? it could've been a billion without wokeness. the sky's the limit when you have an axiomatic premise and untestable hypothesis.
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Aug 10, 2021 05:59
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Ghostlight posted:don't even bother thinking in terms of examples, as they don't. Yes I see now that my brain was too wrinkled when I posed that question. I was looking for an example of something not...woke??? that then became woke because...what would that even be? Former human trafficking ring pivoting to do Habitat For Humanity? Anti-LGBTQ Governor now working to recant laws that hamstring work that Planned Parenthood can do? I'll be honest, I'm struggling here because I have no examples of what a cool and good game is that they'd like actually is because it's all so reactionary that I have nothing to point at as a thing that anyone of them actually enjoys.
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Aug 10, 2021 06:09
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RareAcumen posted:I have nothing to point at as a thing that anyone of them actually enjoys. porn
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Aug 10, 2021 06:42
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for some reason I watched the whole NCG RE video in bits and pieces over the last day and it was pretty interesting. he was absolutely more thorough than he needed to be - he could have easily skipped over Survivor and Outbreak, as they're extremely marginal as far as RE games go, but that still would have only cut out about half an hour or so. if you want a summary of which games he liked and disliked to argue about here you go: Good: 1 - a classic but he had some frustrations with how the open structure of the game made it easy to manage ammo poorly, meaning he had to reload old saves from hours back a few times 2 - improves on 1 in nearly every way and especially liked the slightly less open structure improves the flow of the game due to the ammo balance being tighter 3 - thought it was a little underrated & found the more linear & slightly more action-oriented style to be a very successful change 1 Remake - definitive version of the original, fantastic visual style, improves on the ammo balance of the original, new gameplay mechanics are all successful, and fixes the terrible dialogue & voice acting from the original 4 - generally liked it and acknowledged how good & influential the gameplay was but really disliked the writing & story, finding it to be more intrusively bad than 1-3 & not as atmospheric either 7 - close to his favourite, the scariest in the series & a successful reinvention but disliked the shift in atmosphere in the second half of the game, finding Lucas & Eveline to be less compelling as antagonists than Jack & Marguerite 2 Remake - his favourite, successfully combining the combat of 4 with the puzzles of the original 2, and how thoroughly it re-imagines the game and improves the original's writing 3 Remake - nearly as enjoyable as 2 Remake, just for different reasons, successfully shifts even more thoroughly to action than the original 3 did, takes far more liberties with the source material than 2 Remake but the changes are all understandable & thoughtful 8 - really liked overall, has a very unique personality as far as horror media goes and is a better blend of horror & action than 4, thought a few sections (the factory, reservoir, and everything as Chris) aren't as strong as the rest but the game successfully shifts between multiple styles of horror in a way that 6 failed to do Bad: Code Veronica - found it to be hostile to the player in really tedious ways, thought the shift to fully 3D environments was a downgrade as it doesn't understand how to use its fixed camera angles anywhere near as well & there's a loss of style & detail, and he also absolutely hated the writing & plot Survivor - an interesting curiosity of a spinoff but not really good 0 - terrible plot, gameplay was largely stagnant and just repeating things previous games had done except worse, with the new mechanics in item dropping & character swapping being terrible Outbreak - nearly unplayable as a single player experience now due to the useless AI partners 5 - disliked the abandonment of horror, nonsensical writing & racial insensitivity with the setting, and found the action gameplay to be solid but played single-player and was frustrated with the poor companion AI Revelations - enjoyed the cruise ship section, especially due to his own personal love of the nautical horror subgenre, but not the other sections, disliked the scanning mechanic due to being both tedious & being too rewarding which throws off the balance of the game, disliked the plot with its multiple 'scooby doo'-esque twists, hated everything about Jessica as a character 6 - liked some sections of Leon's campaign but found the game to be bloated, with most of the other campaigns being repetitive and totally unnecessary to the story & thought the game was trying to do too many different styles of horror without being great at any of them Revelations 2 - one of the most forgettable games in the series, extremely derivative of previous games, bad plot & dialogue, asymmetric co-op doesn't work well as the players in support roles have very little interesting to do, same problem with the scanning mechanic from Revelations 1
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Aug 10, 2021 07:48
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RareAcumen posted:I'll be honest, I'm struggling here because I have no examples of what a cool and good game is that they'd like actually is because it's all so reactionary that I have nothing to point at as a thing that anyone of them actually enjoys. People like that derive pleasure solely from seeing others suffer and lose. It's a staple of modern conservatism in general, and it holds true in nerd conservatism as well. "The cruelty is the point," or so the saying goes. They are continually miserable and upset and find joy and warmth in nothing worthy of finding it in, but so long as others are applicably more miserable than they are in any way... then they are pleased. Note I didn't say "happy", but they are at least sated momentarily. And then it's back to the well of misery.
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Aug 10, 2021 08:29
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RareAcumen posted:Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here. In the lead up to The Force Awakens some MRA website used some spicy math on their own vaguely worded, low turn out poll. They concluded they cost Disney almost a million dollars in ticket sales.
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Aug 10, 2021 08:53
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grittyreboot posted:In the lead up to The Force Awakens some MRA website used some spicy math on their own vaguely worded, low turn out poll. They concluded they cost Disney almost a million dollars in ticket sales. They're also immensely proud of the fact that they "stole" Solo: A Star Wars Story--a movie that consisted of like 80% straight cis white people (and one black person who is queer only in the instruction manual and nowhere else) meandering their way through a decidedly, if not un-woke then at the very least woke-agnostic plot that's been done dozens of times before already and had absolutely nothing profound to even pretend to say. While discounting the fact that basically no one wanted to see a Star Wars movie about how Han Solo and Chewbacca met, that was released in May and came out just five months after the last big tent pole Star Wars movie in the previous December and was publicly plagued by messy production issues. It is their exception that proves the rule: nobody going to see a movie that nobody wanted to see in the first place. They got to first base on a bunt at the start of the lineup and they celebrated like it was a grand slam bases loaded home run.
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Aug 10, 2021 09:02
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RareAcumen posted:Has anyone who says the catchphrase ever managed to list an example? I know I'm treading on dangerous ground on overthinking the concept here.
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Aug 10, 2021 11:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPwNociLraM
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Aug 10, 2021 12:05
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Reactionaries all think they're part of some silent majority even the younger ones who should be aware they're an annoyingly vocal minority. "Go woke go broke" would only make sense in a society where the populace is socially reactionary which isn't the case in the US. It's why the GOP is rigging the game every place they can they know they lost the culture war. The system already favors them electorally which helps fuel the illusion that the population is more conservative than it actually is - in an actually fair democracy with high voter participation the GOP would never control the House or presidency and they'd control a lot fewer states than they currently do.
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Aug 10, 2021 14:25
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Maybe the Paul Feig Ghostbusters? But I think that ended up being moderately successful, not that it would matter to the people using that phrase. Unfortunately not. Answer the Call is one of those movies that was sunk because its advertising budget put it too far south of making back its money.
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Aug 10, 2021 14:40
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nine-gear crow posted:They're also immensely proud of the fact that they "stole" Solo: A Star Wars Story--a movie that consisted of like 80% straight cis white people (and one black person who is queer only in the instruction manual and nowhere else) meandering their way through a decidedly, if not un-woke then at the very least woke-agnostic plot that's been done dozens of times before already and had absolutely nothing profound to even pretend to say. It was real cool how they gave the Millennium Falcon a backstory, and the backstory is that one of its droid brains is only droid who ever accurately noted that the treatment of droids is chattel slavery. And this is never noted, discussed, or even relevant in any way to any other moment the Millennium Falcon has appeared in media for the past 40 years. Presumably she's just resigned to this eternal life of servitude as a component in a space freighter.
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Aug 10, 2021 16:29
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Nuns with Guns posted:It was real cool how they gave the Millennium Falcon a backstory, and the backstory is that one of its droid brains is only droid who ever accurately noted that the treatment of droids is chattel slavery. And this is never noted, discussed, or even relevant in any way to any other moment the Millennium Falcon has appeared in media for the past 40 years. Presumably she's just resigned to this eternal life of servitude as a component in a space freighter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zRFPeEDS0&t=439s Auralnauts with the save.
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Aug 10, 2021 16:32
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Nuns with Guns posted:It was real cool how they gave the Millennium Falcon a backstory, and the backstory is that one of its droid brains is only droid who ever accurately noted that the treatment of droids is chattel slavery. And this is never noted, discussed, or even relevant in any way to any other moment the Millennium Falcon has appeared in media for the past 40 years. Presumably she's just resigned to this eternal life of servitude as a component in a space freighter. There is a really really brief moment in the novelization of the OT, when C3P0 and R2 are barred from entering the Cantina by an "anti-droid field" and they experience some direct anti-droid racism that they reflect on. It's in the movies just a tiny bit, when the bartender yells "no droids here" (and you see the anti-droid field but they don't explain it!) but it is way way more explicit in the novel. IIRC the novelization came first so it was top of mind from the beginning. I remember reading it and being a little weirded out by 1. the fact that they touched on such an ethically hairy and interesting concept and 2. that it was immediately dropped. Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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Aug 10, 2021 16:36
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thetoughestbean posted:I’m extremely sensitive to caffeine (I get a headache from a decaf if it’s too large a serving) so the whole coffee obsession is weird to me. The best thing to make me feel awake is time It tastes good
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Aug 10, 2021 17:06
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Famethrowa posted:There is a really really brief moment in the novelization of the OT, when C3P0 and R2 are barred from entering the Cantina by an "anti-droid field" and they experience some direct anti-droid racism that they reflect on. It's in the movies just a tiny bit, when the bartender yells "no droids here" (and you see the anti-droid field but they don't explain it!) but it is way way more explicit in the novel. IIRC the novelization came first so it was top of mind from the beginning. Written by George Lucas himself! By which I mean Alan Dean Foster.
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Aug 10, 2021 18:28
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Huh, Dslyecxi uploaded a video of just reading a piece he wrote for an internal forum: Handling Toxicity - Musings on Serious Fun, Episode #4 It sounds like Dslyecxi kind of crack-pinged a bit
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Aug 10, 2021 20:40
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RareAcumen posted:I'll be honest, I'm struggling here because I have no examples of what a cool and good game is that they'd like actually is because it's all so reactionary that I have nothing to point at as a thing that anyone of them actually enjoys. The only thing they like is media they consumed at an age when they weren't deliberately looking for some opposing ideology to be outraged by. It's a common thread amongst reactionaries in general: A lionization of some mythical, golden age past that may or may not have actually existed but that current society has deteriorated from that must be restored. They don't actually give a poo poo about He-Man, they give a poo poo about when they were twelve and were ignorant of discourse that might challenge their existing worldview.
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Aug 10, 2021 21:42
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A youtuber I primarily know for his video on Dubstep apparently does documentaries on right-wing grifters as well...and they are really good! Like, the research and production value on this rivals the hbomberguys of the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfbczIaR7E
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Aug 10, 2021 22:04
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Antigravitas posted:Huh, Dslyecxi uploaded a video of just reading a piece he wrote for an internal forum: Handling Toxicity - Musings on Serious Fun, Episode #4 Nazi Nerds gently caress off
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Aug 10, 2021 22:33
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Antigravitas posted:Huh, Dslyecxi uploaded a video of just reading a piece he wrote for an internal forum: Handling Toxicity - Musings on Serious Fun, Episode #4 Dang that sucks, I used to really like his Arma stuff back in the day.
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Aug 10, 2021 22:38
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Sydin posted:Dang that sucks, I used to really like his Arma stuff back in the day. uhh am i missing something? because i think the video might be actually saying the opposite of what you might be assuming
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Aug 10, 2021 22:41
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If it is then I apologize. I'm at work and can't watch the video, just assumed based on the posts they were saying Dslyecxi was saying nazi poo poo. If it is the opposite and I completely misread then that's great to hear. 
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Aug 10, 2021 22:45
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Dslyecxi is telling nazis to gently caress off in the video.
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Aug 10, 2021 22:53
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Dslyecxi sends his regards.
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Aug 10, 2021 22:54
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Terrible Opinions posted:Dslyecxi is telling nazis to gently caress off in the video. Yeah, I was trying to bring up the idea that you gotta kick out the nazis when they show up in your space, which he has realized. Well, realized last year even
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Aug 11, 2021 00:11
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Famethrowa posted:A youtuber I primarily know for his video on Dubstep apparently does documentaries on right-wing grifters as well...and they are really good! Like, the research and production value on this rivals the hbomberguys of the world
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Aug 11, 2021 00:44
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Famethrowa posted:A youtuber I primarily know for his video on Dubstep apparently does documentaries on right-wing grifters as well...and they are really good! Like, the research and production value on this rivals the hbomberguys of the world Yeah, Timbah's been doing this for a while. The dubstep video is fantastic, if you haven't already seen it.
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Aug 11, 2021 01:31
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https://youtu.be/BsgfFX2xw9w Worried about ProZD's health.
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Aug 11, 2021 05:56
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LibrarianCroaker posted:Linkara got to Beast Morphers in History of Power Rangers It seems like at least one video is missing from most of his series', I don't suppose anywhere has the missing episodes? PW: Samurai #3 for example?
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Aug 11, 2021 08:13
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Antigravitas posted:Huh, Dslyecxi uploaded a video of just reading a piece he wrote for an internal forum: Handling Toxicity - Musings on Serious Fun, Episode #4 I really really liked this, it sounds like a sort of declaration of membership to the communities constituion. I'm also glad I didn't skip this, because it means there are more gaming communities with those values, the Warframe goon clan (for example) isn't alone. Thanks for posting this.
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Aug 11, 2021 08:57
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Famethrowa posted:A youtuber I primarily know for his video on Dubstep apparently does documentaries on right-wing grifters as well...and they are really good! Like, the research and production value on this rivals the hbomberguys of the world
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Aug 11, 2021 10:56
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40-Degree Day posted:https://youtu.be/BsgfFX2xw9w He's probably made of stern stuff if every Little Debbie on the market didn't kill him.
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Aug 11, 2021 13:16
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If SungWon's able to survive eating 30 different flavours of Lays then he can survive anything.
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Aug 11, 2021 17:28
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Arbite posted:It seems like at least one video is missing from most of his series', I don't suppose anywhere has the missing episodes? PW: Samurai #3 for example? Probably best to check through his site: http://atopthefourthwall.com/other-videos/?ovc=hopr I think a couple of the older ones are still on vimeo or something because he's been going back and editing them into youtube compliance for a while.
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Aug 11, 2021 23:58
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Dawgstar posted:He's probably made of stern stuff if every Little Debbie on the market didn't kill him. The grossest one for me was the trying like 30 different Gatorade flavors. That sounds like hell
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