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There's overlap if only by virtue of being mad tattooed guys with downtuned guitars in the same time period. The derivative poo poo like Godsmack or Drowning Pool could go either way.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I use buttrock for post-grunge stuff like Nickelback. Wait... Isn't Nickelback numetal? Aren't these the same thing  I started college in the fall of 2001 and all incoming freshmen had a mandatory writing seminar where we researched anything we wanted and presented on it. One of the guys in my section did his presentation on numetal.
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Aug 11, 2021 15:11
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Nu metal needs that hip hop influence somewhere even if the vocalist isn’t rapping.
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hallo spacedog posted:Wait... Isn't Nickelback numetal? Aren't these the same thing No they’re post-grunge like Creed or Default or whatever. The big nu metal bands are Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Korn, Slipknot, etc.
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Aug 11, 2021 15:11
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Buttrock is anything that guys who owned flame shirts listened to.
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post-grunge = buttrock
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Aug 11, 2021 15:13
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Crush 40 is definitive buttrock.
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Aug 11, 2021 15:18
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Sweevo posted:Buttrock is anything that guys who owned flame shirts listened to. whoa, I didn't know videogame MIDIs and The Decemberists are now buttrock
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Aug 11, 2021 15:30
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Buttrock isn’t actually a genre like nu metal. It’s just something you say for whatever you don’t like
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Aug 11, 2021 15:33
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"Buttrock" is basically anything in the range from Post-Grunge to "happier nu-metal". Maybe a general undercurrent of aggression but not like, my life sucks and I want to kill you and/or myself I would say Nickelback started out more Post-Grunge and later graduated to official Buttrock Also stuff like Saliva, most of P.O.D., basically sports montage music -- Korn would normally be way too depressing for that. Obviously there are exceptions though, since Limp Bizkit's "Rollin" is absolutely a Buttrock song.
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Aug 11, 2021 16:02
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The best butt rock is in Dynasty Warrior games. Like you said, aggression, but not "my life sucks" or "I'm going to kill you." aggression. More like "I'm here to fight and it's going to be awesome." It's cartoonish.
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Aug 11, 2021 16:57
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here's some butt rock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUBW5x5UKM is it a real song, or is it butt rock created in a lab just for this commercial? who knows and who cares?
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Aug 11, 2021 17:02
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Buttrock is Theory of a Deadman. That's the definition. That's just how it is. Search your heart and know it's true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YrWsmlJSiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR4WFPa6xuI (I have not watched these videos, I apologize if they're even worse than the songs (probably!)).
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Aug 11, 2021 17:14
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It's gross how it wraps back around to sounding indistinguishable from the crappy country rock my boomer rear end neighbor listens to all the time.
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Aug 11, 2021 17:19
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marshmallow creep posted:The best butt rock is in Dynasty Warrior games. Like you said, aggression, but not "my life sucks" or "I'm going to kill you." aggression. More like "I'm here to fight and it's going to be awesome." It's cartoonish. THat definitely fits the Sonic the Hedgehog buttrock made popular from the dreamcast games onwards. I wholeheartedly love City Escape. I think part of the definition is that buttrock is kind of a fond nickname. It's something your happy to see sometimes because it's just having fun. FFX's otherworld is basically saying "Hey, wanna have a good time? Come with me. This'll be fun."
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Aug 11, 2021 17:26
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londonarbuckle posted:Buttrock is Theory of a Deadman. That's the definition. That's just how it is. Search your heart and know it's true. wow yeah, that's some buttrock alright. big-time
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Aug 11, 2021 17:28
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londonarbuckle posted:Buttrock is Theory of a Deadman. That's the definition. That's just how it is. Search your heart and know it's true. It always weirded me out that Theory of a Deadman, Default, Creed, and Three Doors Down sounded almost identical. Like when one of those bands would come on the radio I would always be shocked when being told who it was by because they all sounded exactly the same (discounting the obvious religious aspect of Creed). Other interesting tales about radio-safe "hard" rock from that time period, I liked Staind but actually just the one song For You because I thought it was about bullying and being a victim of bullying I appreciated a song like that getting a lot of radio play. I also thought the one Three Days Grace song was about domestic abuse but no it's about drug addiction
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Aug 11, 2021 17:37
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Aces High posted:It always weirded me out that Theory of a Deadman, Default, Creed, and Three Doors Down sounded almost identical. Like when one of those bands would come on the radio I would always be shocked when being told who it was by because they all sounded exactly the same (discounting the obvious religious aspect of Creed). I think because I wasn't the sort of person to really care who was making the song, this kind of had the effect of making me feel like I was listening to one band that had a lot of output, rather than a bunch of nearly identical groups.
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Aug 11, 2021 18:04
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Henchman of Santa posted:I use buttrock for post-grunge stuff like Nickelback. Nickleback is like a course correction from nu-metal and was kinda generic, standard rock band stuff. I think compounded by the fact that all their songs sounded the same because they found the formula and * poof * bands tried to copy that sound. The way I understood it and expierenced it was Late 80s to early 90s: Height of Hair metal, collapse of hair metal and the rock genre with one exception (guns and roses), death of studio bands Early 90s to Mid 90s: Grunge (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots) Mid 90s: College rock (Dave Mathews, Barenaked Ladies, Guster, They Might Be Giants) Late 90s - early 2000s: nu-metal Mid 2000s: Nickelback-ish clones And then I stopped following music that closely. That isn't to say that there weren't other big genres and acts during that time but this is how I remembered it.
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Aug 11, 2021 18:13
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Aces High posted:It always weirded me out that Theory of a Deadman, Default, Creed, and Three Doors Down sounded almost identical. Like when one of those bands would come on the radio I would always be shocked when being told who it was by because they all sounded exactly the same (discounting the obvious religious aspect of Creed). I had a friend who would call them collectively theory of a nickelcreed doors down she was weird
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Aug 11, 2021 18:18
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Buttrock is rock that's bad but occasionally in a charming way. Like's been mentioned City Escape
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Aug 11, 2021 18:25
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A lot of what I consider to be the quintessential Buttrock sound basically boils down to the guitarist trying to come up with Tom Morello riffs but not being able to Which also leads me to conclude that Audioslave may qualify as the greatest Buttrock band.
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Aug 11, 2021 18:39
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CharlestheHammer posted:Buttrock isn’t actually a genre like nu metal. It’s just something you say for whatever you don’t like That's not true, I use it to describe the Metal Gear Rising soundtrack.
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Aug 11, 2021 18:42
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I felt sure the soundtrack for The Shield had a preponderance of buttrock; having checked, the pilot contains Kid Rock and Monster Magnet, so think I’m onto something.
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Aug 11, 2021 18:44
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Buttrock works well for video game background music, mostly because it's explicitly not trying to stand up on its own. The goofier it is, the better. Like the MGR boss themes all being basically the boss's theme songs from their perspective.
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Aug 11, 2021 18:48
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GoutPatrol posted:whoa, I didn't know videogame MIDIs and The Decemberists are now buttrock Also They might be Giants and weird al
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Mooseontheloose posted:Nickleback is like a course correction from nu-metal and was kinda generic, standard rock band stuff. I think compounded by the fact that all their songs sounded the same because they found the formula and * poof * bands tried to copy that sound. BNL and Dave Matthews Band are alternative rock - college rock is actually its ancestor, the 80s beginning of an alternative rock scene based around stuff that got played on college radio stations and bands touring college campuses. The primary example is REM.
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Aug 11, 2021 19:17
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Len posted:Also They might be Giants and weird al https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xY-oili63QQ
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Aug 11, 2021 19:18
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I think buttrock is what cock rock became after the collapse of glam metal. Or maybe glam metal is when cock rock morphed in to buttrock. Not 100% sure.
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Aug 11, 2021 19:27
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It's such a shame that butt rock is boomer bg music for people who thought Seether was revolutionary instead of songs about butts.
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Aug 11, 2021 19:35
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:It's such a shame that butt rock is boomer bg music for people who thought Seether was revolutionary instead of songs about butts. Songs about butts seems to be more of a hip-hop thing. i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk
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Aug 11, 2021 19:43
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so what percentage of this soundtrack is buttrock https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDbha_rQCpMXN2EJ_EQ9vRwCf0Rf98IDt
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Aug 11, 2021 20:00
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Carnotaurus posted:Songs about butts seems to be more of a hip-hop thing. Not the most obvious example, 0/10
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Aug 11, 2021 20:04
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Carnotaurus posted:Songs about butts seems to be more of a hip-hop thing. There is an interview I cannot find rn where he talks about how this song came about and it's just pure joy.
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Aug 11, 2021 20:58
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Desert Bus posted:There is an interview I cannot find rn where he talks about how this song came about and it's just pure joy. https://twitter.com/imbobswaget/status/1416175066962964480?s=21
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Aug 12, 2021 17:32
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So at some point did old Buttrock become Dadrock? In middle school people used to call the kids that listed to Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, etc. Buttrockers, but now I hear those bands being referred to as Dadrock. I was in middle school in 1995/96 for some context.
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Aug 12, 2021 18:12
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Butt Rock is just the other side of Cock Rock.
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Aug 12, 2021 18:15
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The transition from cock rock to butt rock was the taint rock era.
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Aug 12, 2021 18:22
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Dad rock is, like, stuff from 2004 now. The 80s is Oldies.
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Butt Rock can be defined as "music you might hear in a 3D Sonic game."
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