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Truly we are living in a wondrous age https://twitter.com/guicruzzz/status/1425479363068403713
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MrBling posted:Truly we are living in a wondrous age   Tito is going to loving die. The best Tito Ortiz that ever fought, full of the best steroids that money could buy, wouldn't be able to hold a candle to even today's geriatric Anderson Silva in a boxing match.
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I, of course Tito, want to shout out call out to all our wonderful mens and womens who suffer in the armed forces and lived through 9/11 and the terrorism. Never forget.
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https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1425540041732984838?s=19 Goddamn did we pick the wrong card to go.
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MrBling posted:Truly we are living in a wondrous age What a way to honour the 20th anniversary of 911
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Jose posted:What a way to honour the 20th anniversary of 911 It nudges me to want Tito to win just for the post fight win speech
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MrBling posted:Truly we are living in a wondrous age omg yes
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Silva did look good in his boxing match, but on the other hand Ortiz is a larger, pumped up brawler who's probably going to be less gunshy than Chavez, Jr. So who knows.
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LLCoolJD posted:Silva did look good in his boxing match, but on the other hand Ortiz is a larger, pumped up brawler who's probably going to be less gunshy than Chavez, Jr. So who knows. Anderson vs Tito on the feet is a dream fight for Anderson if he can still counterpunch, which I think he can. I can't wait for this.
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LLCoolJD posted:Silva did look good in his boxing match, but on the other hand Ortiz is a larger, pumped up brawler who's probably going to be less gunshy than Chavez, Jr. So who knows. Tito split with Forrest Griffin (most recently losing). Forrest Griffin talking about fighting Anderson Silva (who embarrassed him standing). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1R50LpFh_M
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LLCoolJD posted:Silva did look good in his boxing match, but on the other hand Ortiz is a larger, pumped up brawler who's probably going to be less gunshy than Chavez, Jr. So who knows. He’s not really bigger, just fatter. Anderson had no problems at 205 and is the same height with a bigger wingspan. He’s also a terrible boxer and far more washed than Silva, who is pretty loving washed. There’s no way
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Got a lot of interest in the guy that ducked a boxing match with Dana White going up against Anderson Silva
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I'm seeing a fair amount of talk online from people who think Spence's eye injury might be fake. Among them is Bernard Hopkins: https://www.boxingscene.com/bernard-hopkins-suspicious-skeptical-errol-spences-eye-injury--159835 quote:"The only thing I can do is listen to what you said to me and listen to what I heard. That’s conversation and I don’t know if it’s true, if it’s not true. I like Spence, I respect Spence. I know he is always ready for any challenge. I just think … I just have some suspicions about this whole thing. I just think the way it manifested and came out suddenly and so fast … I’ll just say stay tuned. If you hear something other than what everyone was given and what was told. I think there is more to the story than what it is. But if it is true, I wish him a speedy recovery. But I just have to say that first because I want to be the first one that people say, ‘what did I know that everybody else didn’t first know’ or ‘what did I know that a few people did know but nobody was bold enough or brave enough to say it,’” Hopkins told both Little Giant Boxing and KO Artist Sports. Now granted this kind of talk always happens in boxing, people were saying similar things about Tyson Fury's COVID test earlier. I'm usually of a mind to take fighters at their word when they report injuries both inside and outside the ring. It's a pretty serious accusation to suggest a fighter might be faking something to get out of a fight. Hopkins even compares it to the idea someone would lie about getting cancer. But Bernard Hopkins isn't just some guy, and for him to make a suggestion like this or even address it publicly is pretty big and deserves some consideration. We know almost nothing about the circumstances of Spence's injury, including how it happened (in sparring?), when exactly his team found out about it or how long they knew about it before alerting the public. Unlike Fury's COVID test popping months before his bout, Spence's injury report came about at the very tail end of his training camp, when his team would have a good idea of how he'll look in the event. Stories out of the Pacquaio camp all make it sound like he's destroying guys in sparring, whereas for Spence to even get an injury like this suggests he was getting tagged up. I've heard some talk about how the event promotion was concerned about competition with Jake Paul's event the following week leading to Pac-Spence underperforming. On top of all this you have Yordenis Ugas set on the undercard, the guy whose belt was taken from Pacquiao... and it turns out his scheduled opponent also got injured in a late sparring session at the exact same time as Spence. How convenient! This may just be my saltiness that the megafight I paid big money on tickets and travel to see in person turned overnight into more or less a mandatory title defense type match I would have streamed illegally, and too late for me to alter plans or cancel. But it does look a lot to me like an orchestrated bait-and-switch. Maybe Spence (or his handlers) weren't feeling so hot about his chances at cashing in on Pacquiao after all, and didn't want to lose that precious zero to a 42-year-old on the verge of retirement. Maybe they liked the idea of fighting Manny a few months from now and with some distance from that Paul card, perhaps after softening Manny up against a scrappy technical Cuban guy nobody seems eager to fight. Ugas was training for a fight, but who's to say the fighter he was training for was actually Fabian Maidana and not Manny Pacquiao? This is supposedly the third fight in Manny's three-fight deal with PBC and the last time Manny parted ways with a promoter it didn't go great for him. It seems to me the stars are aligned for another Jeff Horn situation. Maybe the fix is in. Or uh, maybe Spence has a torn retina and his team was lucky to catch it, and the event was also lucky to have Ugas so readily available to fill in as a world-class foe for Manny! In which case, I hope Spence has a speedy recovery... but not too speedy, lest it start looking like he really is ducking Old Man Pacquiao.
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The Ninth Layer posted:Or uh, maybe Spence has a torn retina and his team was lucky to catch it Fighting is obviously a huge factor in detached retinas, but it doesn't have to separate right after a punch -- it could go any time. And if it's bad, you'll know from your vision being blocked in that eye.
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It's pretty clear that Spence does not have a torn retina and is merely doing this to spite us personally but there isn't really anything we can do at this point other than try to live our best lives next week  Edit:And enjoy the pretty loaded high level boxing tonight. Andrew Maloney-Joshua Franco 3 on ESPN, Vergil Ortiz-Mean Machine on DAZN and Casimerio-Rigo on Showtime. Edit 2: Jake Paul vs Tyron Woodley having any impact on the numbers of Manny Pacquiao fight business is just nuts to think about but at this point really is absolutely a consideration one must bear in mind. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 14, 2021 |
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Jump King posted:Guillermo Rigondeaux is an interesting guy Wish I could say that exact sentence about his fights.
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I had to double check Canelo's and his kids' ages.  He's 31.
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Just finished Oscar Dela Hoya's career. Since I'd already done this with Pacquiao, it was a little disorienting, almost surreal, to see the final fight again, which is the same thing that happened to me in Jones vs Toney. Oscar was very good! He had a great jab and lead hook, but his right hand wasn't bad, even though commentators would say it was until he hurt someone with it again and that cycle was repeated at least three times in ten years. He could box, he could punch, he could fight moving both forwards and backwards, and he was a very smart fighter. In one fight he obviously disregarded his trainer-of-the-day and figured out his own successful game plan against a tough opponent. Any time he was up on his toes and moving he was superb. In his last fight I don't know much was him actually being too old and how much was his long atrophied passion for being a prize fighter; his reflexes were bad but that could have been ring rust as much as age. Edit: when I say that his right wasn't bad, he could (until his final fight) throw it when it was there and, while it wasn't his Sunday punch, it could still punish and even hurt the opponent. It wasn't like it was a punch that missing from his repertoire, it just wasn't his best. Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:he could (until his final fight) throw it when it was there see this to me is all a punch needs to be: something an opponent respects enough to not want to carelessly walk through. floyd was never a power puncher but all his punches had 'respect pls' written all over them
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Young Oscar was a beast. Could box, punch, had great reflexes, speed, chin, heart - everything. Felt like he kind of lost focus after he "lost" to Trinidad and never really regained it fully. After that fight, he recorded and released a latin pop music CD, started having his personal problems first made public in a palimony suit, and hired Floyd Sr to be his trainer, who kind of hosed up his style in my opinion. Ideally Oscar would have stuck with the same trainer his whole career, fought regularly, and lived in the gym, but he had so much fame, money and pussy thrown at him back then that it would be impossible for anyone to stay a hungry gym rat. As it was, he was a top 5 fighter of the 1990s along with Roy Jones Jr, Lennox Lewis, Pernell Whitaker, and Ricardo Lopez.
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He was very, very impressive when I watched him. I don't think anyone at my Jiujitsu gym really appreciates how good he was, because last night I brought up his upcoming fight against Vitor Belfort and they all thought Vitor was going to eat him alive because of PEDs. I dunno man, Oscar was really good.
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Jump King posted:Who is on the Ugas upset train for this one? He's younger and taller but this is Pacquiao so I can't pick the upset.
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Myself, SituAsian, jump king and Mr. f! are heading over to T-Mobile now. I've got a bet on Manny KO 10-12 at 9/1 odds, Jump King betting on an Ortiz KO and SituAsian has a spread of bets (Pac KO, Ugas decision, won't go 11 rounds and some money on the draw).
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Jump King posted:Mr. F’s big bets were all at the poker table Well actually I lost the 100 I was gonna bet on the fight at the blackjack tables lol
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But also I decided not to bet on the fight, it seemed like it was going to be closer than people expected. But now we’re in the arena I kinda wish I bet on manny lol
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The Ninth Layer posted:Myself, SituAsian, jump king and Mr. f! are heading over to T-Mobile now. Cool  I hope it's a good show.
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LLCoolJD posted:Cool We have amazing seats. We got upgraded and now we’re in section 15
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Digital Jedi posted:Been to T Mobile Arena 3 times for UFC sat in wildly different spots. Don't think there is a bad spot Yeah a great arena for surw
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Mr. F! posted:Yeah a great arena for surw Surw
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Digital Jedi posted:Been to T Mobile Arena 3 times for UFC sat in wildly different spots. Don't think there is a bad spot eventually I want to go see the Blues play VGK there
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