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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i have a video of this too

there are so many of these! the two opening operatic numbers in a state-owned diesel engine factory are also worth checking out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snItPkBxgSM&t=659s

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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Shrike's mask seems to fall faster and faster these days. gently caress off shrike.

Agreed. Shrike is threadbanned, report any shrike posts you see and I'll ramp em.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i have a video of this too

there are so many of these! the two opening operatic numbers in a state-owned diesel engine factory are also worth checking out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snItPkBxgSM&t=659s

that 100th anniversary video of the CPC and the transitions China has gone through owned

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i have a video of this too

there are so many of these! the two opening operatic numbers in a state-owned diesel engine factory are also worth checking out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snItPkBxgSM&t=659s

How are we gonna turn this into the #123213213 excuse of how the CCP has failed

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

shrike82 posted:

that's a big oof from me

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

lol

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
his lust for death not satiated, where will he go next

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
get pissed on shrike

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010


The USSR had a really high rate of women in STEM fields too.

Socialism quietly accomplishes all the things shrieking idpoll obsessed libs never could.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Cross posting from the covid thread:

osprey posted:

rebekah jones, the ousted florida DOH whistleblower, still posts occasionally on her own site. she posted this morning

Florida misleads the public (again) on its case and death data


https://news.yahoo.com/china-uses-rebekah-jones-conspiracies-195800925.html

quote:

Christina Pushaw, DeSantis's press secretary, told the Washington Examiner: “I don’t believe Rebekah Jones is an agent of China or anything like that. I do believe that China has used and exploited her conspiracy theories to push their own agenda, to push their own narrative, and to undermine and discredit DeSantis because his policies have obviously been in direct opposition to what the Chinese Communist Party wants in America."

“When the media is trying to hit DeSantis, they don’t realize that it’s all fun and games until America’s adversaries take the conspiracy theories at face value to promote their own propaganda," she continued.

So I'm not saying that Rebekah Jones, a government employee who we fired for calling out our obviously bullshit numbers, completely ruined and humiliated in public by exposing her past mental health and marital records, then sent out cops loyal to the state governing to arrest and jail on obviously fake charges, who then caught COVID while in jail, and was only rescued by the regime in Washington because a new president had ascended the throne, is a :siren: Chinese agent :siren: , I'm just asking questions

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Judakel posted:

his lust for death not satiated, where will he go next

there's always the pyf tankies thread, but posting among likeminded people isn't as thrilling as making GBS threads in the pool

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

shrike is yet another in a long line of goons who crave negative attention, yet don't have the balls to post in fyad.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Ngl, those shrike posts are hilarious.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

As a resident of Florida who has occasionally voted and thinks Ron DeSantis is a gigantic dork I am proud to be a Chinese agent.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
As for Iran, the higher vaccination rates in Russia hurt them pretty badly because they were counting on exports prior to Delta. A lot of right now just comes to production. I would assume China is going to start seriously exporting in a couple weeks.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:50 on Aug 12, 2021

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I would also assume that the cost of the American vaccines also factors into it.
It would be a smart move on China's part to supply vaccines for cost or even free to assert dominance.

A Jupiter
Apr 25, 2010

https://twitter.com/nathanattrill/status/1425350762347917316



He looks more like a Daniel

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Actually drugs are cool and should be encouraged.

The only people who don't like meth are people who haven't tried meth. It is objectively awesome.

Once again the state has failed the people.

Nah meth sucks, it lasts way too long. Speed is the superior amphetamine

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


only if America is Nebuchadnezzar.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


"traditional gender roles"

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Xi Jinping, sorry, Ryan She lived in Iowa for a while

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I remember when western media covered a chinese olympic diver a few years ago (Rio?) that said like

"yeah I got bronze. I wish I could have done better. Sucks cause I'm on my period or I would have gotten silver lol"

and english language media was like 'she's so brave to discuss her biology when she comes from a patriarchal society'

but chinese people really don't give a poo poo that people have periods, it's not a faux pax to be a human being for them and never was as far as I know so you can just mention it if you want
or be in the water with while on the rag since you're an olympic diver you know

it was not a revolutionary act against the patriarchy she just swam with cramps

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

I didn't realize just how specifically sexist America is until I lived in Taiwan. it's wildly sexist by comparison yeah

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

in south korea birth control pills are usually advertised as menstrual regulators and the only time this is ever mentioned in english is to describe koreans as sex hating patriarchs because they dont have enough copious loving in their advertising lol

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/connell_douglas/status/1425051853818109977

https://twitter.com/mj_howson/status/1425410112877961218

quote:

The study found the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective against infection in July, when the Delta variant was dominant.

so is everyone just making up their own definition for what effectiveness means at all times because im having trouble making sense of this

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Antonymous posted:

I didn't realize just how specifically sexist America is until I lived in Taiwan. it's wildly sexist by comparison yeah

america should really aspire to taiwan and bring over their culture of betel nut girls and funeral strippers

i forgot if the taiwan outbreak was due to ktv or massages but yeah

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/connell_douglas/status/1425051853818109977

https://twitter.com/mj_howson/status/1425410112877961218

so is everyone just making up their own definition for what effectiveness means at all times because im having trouble making sense of this

It's a difficult thing to measure and there's a lot of confounding factors that can't really be controlled.

- 99% of HCWs in Thailand not infected doesn't mean without the vaccine, 100% of them would have been infected. That's obviously a dumb stat.
- No one knows how effective any of the vaccines are against asymptomatic infection because they aren't testing the entire population every day to find them, so only people who are getting symptoms get tested. Maybe they do that for the new Mayo clinic study, I haven't read it.
- The initial efficacy numbers basically said: between 2 populations of vaxxed and unvaxxed, 20 x as many unvaxxed people ended up developing symptomatic covid as vaxxed people. This doesn't mean that out of 100 people who get the shot, 95 of them are just immune to covid forever. I think a better analogy would be 2 groups of 100 people randomly rolling the dice i.e. encountering infectious events a number of times for a fixed time period, and assuming both groups are rolling the dice an equal number of times, 20 people in one group ended up getting a certain result at least once while only 1 person in the other group did. So it seems like getting the vax does *something*, but we don't know what else is happening. e.g. maybe both groups were wearing masks and distancing, as you would reasonably expect people to do before a known effective vaccine existed, and thus were only rolling the dice once per day, but now that we "know" that we have the vax and are thus immortal, maybe we all stop doing the masking and distancing and other stuff and now everyone rolls the dice 100 times per day - this number would also change depending on how many other people in the environment are infected. What then? No one knows how any of this stuff works well enough to give any sort of recommendation beyond "keep doing everything else, but also get the vax because if you do get infected it probably helps you not die."
- So of course the CDC's recommendation is "once you get the vax just start shooting covid directly into your rear end lol".

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Kill All Cops posted:

america should really aspire to taiwan and bring over their culture of betel nut girls and funeral strippers

i forgot if the taiwan outbreak was due to ktv or massages but yeah

Teahouses, obvs

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The Philippine media continually running stories about allegedly ineffective Sinovac is (usually copy-pasted from AP and Reuters reports, go figure) has created a situation where vaccination sites go empty whenever word gets around that it's Sinovac that's being administered on that day

But when it's any other brand, so many people rush to do a walk-in that cops are called-in to do crowd control, even if it's J&J

Mayman10
May 11, 2019

Some Guy TT posted:


so is everyone just making up their own definition for what effectiveness means at all times because im having trouble making sense of this

So effectiveness is the measure, in a real world population, of how many of those vaccinated get an intended result (in this case not getting infected). So in a vaccinated population 88% fewer people would contract the disease when they come into contact with the virus. That's an important thing to keep in mind when looking at Health Care Worker data, they're using additional protections to make sure they come into contact with the virus less (masks, face shields, etc).

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/connell_douglas/status/1425051853818109977

https://twitter.com/mj_howson/status/1425410112877961218

so is everyone just making up their own definition for what effectiveness means at all times because im having trouble making sense of this

yes. here’s how it works. ignore all those people above me.

what you do is make a conclusion about which vaccine you want to advocate for. then you look up some raw statistics about infection rates or trial data or whatever. then you cherry pick which data supports your desired conclusion and toss the rest in the trash, call the numbers you cherry picked “effectiveness” and sprinkle in some weasel words as necessary. now your qualified to write for a major media outlet!

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

gradenko_2000 posted:

The Philippine media continually running stories about allegedly ineffective Sinovac is (usually copy-pasted from AP and Reuters reports, go figure) has created a situation where vaccination sites go empty whenever word gets around that it's Sinovac that's being administered on that day

But when it's any other brand, so many people rush to do a walk-in that cops are called-in to do crowd control, even if it's J&J

Lol there is no way j&j is more effective than sinovac. Unless you take 2 shot or something.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It doesn’t help that different studies have different definitions of symptomatic infections and therefore you can have wide variance on top of all the other factors.

One would think there would a single standard but it there isn’t one.

The numbers between the two shots for the Sinovac are probably pretty similar to JnJ after a few months. The Brazilian study for example was only using 1 shot and even there only a few weeks after injection, but it been reported as a full course.

As for the Philippines, the US honestly wants full military access to the Philippines in border to start building missile sites along the SCS. It is obvious.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 03:43 on Aug 12, 2021

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Ardennes posted:

It doesn’t help that different studies have different definitions of symptomatic infections and therefore you can have wide variance on top of all the other factors.

One would think there would a single standard but it there isn’t one.

if there was a single standard, every reporter would ignore it in favor of pushing the narrative they’re going for

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

What’s with CPP vs CPC? Anti China people seem to go out of their way to use the former even though it seems like the latter is the official translation? Is it just one of those petty “I’m gonna call it the DemoCRAT party” things but for libs

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

fart simpson posted:

if there was a single standard, every reporter would ignore it in favor of pushing the narrative they’re going for

Yeah it just gives them more leeway of finding the worst studies they can find and then stripping any useful details. At a certain point you can make anything look terrible.

Mayman10
May 11, 2019

stephenthinkpad posted:

Lol there is no way j&j is more effective than sinovac. Unless you take 2 shot or something.

This doesn't have Sinovac in the study but you can still see how much J&J (Ad26.COV2.S) is struggling with variants. (Higher serum dilution is better)



Full paper here https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.19.452771v3.full

Mayman10
May 11, 2019

FrancisFukyomama posted:

What’s with CPP vs CPC? Anti China people seem to go out of their way to use the former even though it seems like the latter is the official translation? Is it just one of those petty “I’m gonna call it the DemoCRAT party” things but for libs

CCP is Chinese Communist Party while CPC is Communist Party of China, as I understand it CPC is supposed to show that above all the party is of and for China.

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

I heard pretty recently that the Vietnamese govt considers the existence of private insurance to be a stopgap measure in place until universal free care can be implemented and wonder if anyone knows if China has announced similar plans

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

FrancisFukyomama posted:

What’s with CPP vs CPC? Anti China people seem to go out of their way to use the former even though it seems like the latter is the official translation? Is it just one of those petty “I’m gonna call it the DemoCRAT party” things but for libs

I've seen arguments that either form is correct, but as far as online rhetoric goes, there's almost definitely a line drawn as far as the people who use CCP derogatorily, as opposed to people who use CPC as an at best neutral, or official, name

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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/connell_douglas/status/1425051853818109977

https://twitter.com/mj_howson/status/1425410112877961218

so is everyone just making up their own definition for what effectiveness means at all times because im having trouble making sense of this

let me translate it for you:

china bad

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