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bones 4 beginners posted:Time to bring in the big guns if we're to end this mahjong pandemic. Those automated mahjong tables are the coolest poo poo ever, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDNvqS9QPk
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Those automated mahjong tables are the coolest poo poo ever, though. I don't know how to play mahjong but I want one
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Those automated mahjong tables are the coolest poo poo ever, though. I have this persistent irrational concern that someone is going to get their hand trapped in one, then have it returned to them as a series of perfectly arranged cuboids.
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Atopian posted:I have this persistent irrational concern that someone is going to get their hand trapped in one, then have it returned to them as a series of perfectly arranged cuboids. Even better as a meat packer! 
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Sorry if this has been posted before, but is this real? Why doesn't NVIDIA send in a hundred dudes with axes, ala Jackie Chan? https://www.pcgamer.com/a-rogue-arm-ceo-and-a-centuries-old-law-are-causing-a-headache-for-nvidias-big-deal/ edit: holy poo poo: https://www.china-briefing.com/news/company-chops-in-china/ Vampire Panties fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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There are a few fun stories out there of subterfuge stealing chops to take over companies.
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why doesn't the chinese govt step in? Is it one of those "well technically private enterprise isn't a thing in china so you figure this poo poo out"
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some good kan re nao going on here https://twitter.com/manyapan/status/1424311908866351106
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monkeys see chinese characteristics monkeys do chinese characteristics (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Alan Smithee posted:why doesn't the chinese govt step in? Is it one of those They don't want to. Maybe they want to extort concessions from an important major multinational tech company. Maybe they are taking a nationalist bent to it. Maybe they just don't want to be involved. It's not something we can really know for sure unless it's made public.
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The Chinese government is very, very keen on having single individual human points of responsibility for companies, in order to avoid the usual "corporate responsibility lol" problem. So, each company needs to have a "responsible person" who is basically in charge, and more importantly who can be imprisoned if the company fucks around. In order to prevent the obvious tactic of appointing an unimportant scapegoat, the position comes with some significant powers. The chops are a reflection of that. The government wants to be able to look at a corporate document, check the chop and the date, and have someone directly responsible for what it says. To achieve this, you have designated chops and holders. Unchopped document? Not legitimate. Chopped document? Yes legitimate. But anything you chop yourself is Your Fault. As with the Responsible Person thing, a company can't just appoint a patsy because (gestures at linked story above), so the government has a direct line on the most important person in the company. It's an annoying and backwards process in many ways, but from the government perspective it succeeds at its primary purpose of always having someone to blame - and always reminding that person of this state of affairs. All the crazy stuff mentioned in those stories is considered an acceptable trade-off to them.
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I mean gently caress when you put it that way I am 100% on board with it.
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Aye, in an ideal world that one person would do his damndest to keep things running so that his neck doesn't get a chop.
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Benagain posted:I mean gently caress when you put it that way I am 100% on board with it. I do agree with enforcing corporate responsibility, but it would be nice to do so in a way that doesn't lead to the stuff shown in those stories. Or at least, if it had a way to actually resolve those situations reasonably quickly. It is refreshing to only rarely see headlines detailing weaselly stuff like "guess it wasn't the fault of any one person!" re: corporate affairs.
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Atopian posted:The Chinese government is very, very keen on having single individual human points of responsibility for companies, in order to avoid the usual "corporate responsibility lol" problem. That makes sense, in a way. Being tied to the physical chop (which seems to be similar to a notary seal) is the part I don't get. Its the company's chop, not the CEOs, so why not make a new chop and flip that dude the bird? Obviously the PRC could step in and do whatever they like to resolve this, but it seems like they're not involved. I'd have to assume that the stolen-chop CEO isn't doing weird stuff like paying himself the entire revenue of the company because that would really bring down the government, but it also seems like he's still working? and to circle back around, what's stopping the board from literally strong-arming it from him?
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Vampire Panties posted:and to circle back around, what's stopping the board from literally strong-arming it from him? That last part is the true mystery, because that's how this stuff usually gets resolved when normal negotiations fail. Would be illegal, but Chinese police love nothing more than a fait accompli that leaves things quiet again. Maybe the dude is livestreaming his rebellion or something? Keeping lawyers in the room 24/7?
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quote:[Canadian Michael Spavor sentenced to 11 years in prison, ordered deported by Chinese court https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/michael-spavor-verdict-sentencing-1.6136668 quote:Chinese court upholds death penalty for Canadian prisoner Robert Schellenberg https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/schellenberg-spavor-verdicts-1.6135581 In not surprising news, the Chinese government continues to pursue a ham-fisted approach at diplomacy. In this case the only transparent act of these cases was that they were politically motivated retaliation for the detention of a rich Huawei executive.
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mikerock posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/michael-spavor-verdict-sentencing-1.6136668 https://twitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1425295781985017860?s=19 It's like they're a teenager who's high on their first reading of Ayn Rand/Noam Chomsky.
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God I would absolutely love it if who ever held the Enron chop was executed in a stadium or something.
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Alan Smithee posted:why doesn't the chinese govt step in? Is it one of those Here's a brief overview of why the CEO got ousted https://www.eenewsanalog.com/news/report-vc-dealings-heart-arms-china-trouble Basically, the CEO wanted ARM China to set up a venture capital fund to invest in Chinese startups to use ARM China's IP. The board of directors voted down the idea, but they found out the fund already existed and it was essentially the CEO's private fund. The CEO was also giving customers heavy discounts for accessing ARM China's IP so long as they invested in the fund, which was a clear conflict of interest. This was why the board of directors voted to remove the CEO. This is just a guess, but I think the government isn't stepping in because of that discounted access to ARM's tech. They've made it a huge priority to have their own semiconductor industry that is independent of US control or influence, and if that means lining the pocket of a single corrupt CEO then that's small price to pay. And if the CEO really fucks up, they can just make him disappear for a while like Jack Ma.
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TBF making decision makers personally liable as criminals is something that I always found attractive. In the UK we don't even have Sarbanes Oxley. It is basically impossible to imprison businessmen because you can't prove anything unless they literally wrote 'burn down the orphanage and build a mine' and signed at the bottom. And even then they could probably argue they didn't understand what burn meant.
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d0s posted:some good kan re nao going on here great soundtrack to that
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Ailumao posted:Do you know where people were forced to get the vaccine? I hadn't heard that and in my experience it's always been voluntary where plenty of people (like at least half of my office, numerous olds in my neighborhood, more than half of my Chinese friends, etc... in contrast to most foreigners being very eager to get vaxxed) opted to not get them because they saw them as not really worthwhile due to the low efficacy and the lack of any real clusters domestically. This is all anecdotal, of course. It’s true there’s no national policy to require vaccines yet. Though in many pockets of the country, either the local government or specific communities might require the vaccine of its residents. Or for example a Shanghai residential community office will require everyone in the community to get vaccinated, or they have to leave and not live there. I think it all depends on the local official, which can be a wild card when no central decision has been made about this.
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Yeah it's easy to forget how much the heaven is high and the emperor is far away principle still applies in modern China. A lot of the crazier poo poo comes from local officials going rogue rather than being central policy. Not that vaccine mandates are crazy, they should be doing that.
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d0s posted:some good kan re nao going on here Typical Disney Land experience
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I'm the lady getting some kicks and hair pulling in whilst holding a baby.
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McGavin posted:I'm the lady getting some kicks and hair pulling in whilst holding a baby. I'm the dude that runs up and power kicks said lady holding the baby.
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Noblesse Obliged posted:I want to know what they were fighting about. Bone shards in their stew.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Bone shards in their stew. Bone Shards Disharmony
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Ailumao posted:Chengdu has an A+ health code app where under the code it shows a panda at home until you get vaccinated when the panda goes on a trip. I thought that was cute and know a couple people who got vaccinated literally to have the cooler panda. Why hasn't the CDC tried this yet?
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah it's easy to forget how much the heaven is high and the emperor is far away principle still applies in modern China. A lot of the crazier poo poo comes from local officials going rogue rather than being central policy. Not that vaccine mandates are crazy, they should be doing that. This x1000. It isn't even universally good or bad either. For every petty tyrant with no idea about science, medicine, and the modern world, you get some chill / businesslike local leader who quietly ignores the more ridiculous stuff coming from the centre. Well, uh, maybe the ratio isn't actually 1:1, but what can you do? Re: fight scene, I have a near infinity of these in my phone, but no familiarity with hosting video across the firewall. The ones from China are fascinating in their... abandon. Fighting here is treated a lot more seriously than in many countries, so people don't do it so much. But when they do, it can be vastly entertaining. Re: community pandemic barricades, the place I live did lock down completely, deliveries left at the gate, etc, but in a relatively orderly way. Another one I drove by down the street had a crusty old minibus driven-dragged sideways to block their gate, with chicken wire wrapped around the gaps. Extremely Mad Max. Atopian fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 12, 2021 |
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By the by about a week ago the US military published/declassified its latest assessment of the Chinese military and tactics. Worth a look to fuel your Tom Clancy fantasies Page about it or something: https://community.apan.org/wg/tradoc-g2/operational-environment-and-threat-analysis-directorate/m/documents/383691 Direct PDF link: https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN33195-ATP_7-100.3-000-WEB-1.pdf
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Ailumao posted:yeah that's why I asked where they'd heard it happened, cuz I'm curious, not cuz I don't believe it. I was honestly getting very frustrated with how almost no one was getting vaccinated among my friends & coworkers through 2 weeks ago where now everyone wants to be. Yeah. Some people I know are vaccinated and some aren’t (in China). Though I do think they have more valid of a concern with not trusting the government over there. So I didn’t try to convince them because I feel like it doesn’t come from the place of anti science, that and the side effects of the Chinese vaccine is a lot rougher than the other ones. It’s good that people now want to get vaccinated though. I think the initial idea of China holding out until the world is heeled and then open the gate is looking more and more unrealistic by the day.
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Oh poo poo you guys https://twitter.com/KhayaHimmelman/status/1425895180297809929
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The Senkakus are Serbia.
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Grand Fromage posted:The Senkakus are Serbia. Remove all McDonold's?
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