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after reading this i think i now know how having a stroke must feel like. this is not how floating point works. this is not how any of it works. what the gently caress  i've actually had to go and check how much 264 is, just to make sure i'm not loving losing it. it's definitely not 1,600,000,000,000,000. thank god
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nurmie posted:after reading this i think i now know how having a stroke must feel like. this is not how floating point works. this is not how any of it works. what the gently caress It's like one of those old maths game shows. “Using the numbers 2, 64, maybe something else who knows, calculate the value 1.6×1015 (or possibly 40 million) ± arbitrary orders of magnitude.”  The numerology powers of citizens is unparalleled. Oh, and it's also fun to note that, in spite of those powers, their sense of scale is… lacking. A square, 40 million km to the side, doesn't even cover one quadrant of the orbit of Mercury. In space terms, it's absolutely tiny. So even as a bragging number, it is far too small to be bragged about. Kind of the same as CI¬G's own fumbled “400 quadrillion kilometre” claim, which, aside from suggesting that their “space” is one-dimensional, is a distance that I can trivially measure within my modest bathroom. They later clarified that they meant cubic kilometres, which doesn't really improve things: at 1 million × 1 million km² × 400km high, their massive universe clocks in at slightly larger than the Earth-Moon system. That's still pretty much bathroom-scaled on an astronomical level. Tippis fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Its all amusing though as none of it is real. I can take a piece of paper, put 2 X's on it, draw a line between them and write '400 billion billion miles' and it would be just as 'real' as whatever is in those games. I think they have lost their marbles. Its a game.
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Steam > Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition > General Discussions > Should EA/Bioware, partner with CiG, to create Mass Affect Online? posted:Star Citizen has a lot of great technology that could make MEO a possibility. "Real" planets you can explore. Ships you can walk around inside, that are functional...and do space walks around.
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More “not fake, but not really gameplay” fun here I presume https://twitter.com/ATMOesports/status/1425885248060076035
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smellmycheese posted:More “not fake, but not really gameplay” fun here I presume On the subject of "not fake, but not really gameplay"... My buddy and I fired up the game today for the first time since buying lovely starter ships 7 years ago. Picked one of three contracts available to us so we could take our ships out and earn some space bucks. Turns out the "starter" mission is from criminals so you become a criminal just by shooting at the mission objectives. Got arrested and sent to video game space prison. It's amazing to me that this game is in the state it's in but CIG decided to spend time on Space Prison. Space Prison even had a quasi-intro cinematic. My buddy fell off a platform in Space Prison and died and go an hour added to his sentence. It's just incredible that this dumpster fire game even exists. Any other game would entice the new player with a gameplay loop that promises to deliver rewards for the players activity, the possibility of getting cool new ships, and then ease the new player into that gameplay loop. Edit: Did a little research and it turns out the contract was bugged  Penitent fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Penitent posted:I'm still amazed that if you don't take off from the hangar fast enough in your video game space ship... the port authority calls and tells you to get the gently caress out of your ship and they are putting it back in storage. So if you're new and trying to figure out which buttons to press in their war crime of a UI to start your video game space ship... if you take too long you get told to get the gently caress out. It's an incredible design choice. Also the point were you load up your ship is like 5 mins sprint to were it spawns and you have to no which pad to go to or you may never even find it in time. This painful system was to avoid the pop in breaking immersion, yet you can still see pop in galore as you aimlessly wander the landing pads looking for your own ship, or pop out when you find it at the last moment. You see it in bulk spending any time near a landing pad.
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Aug 13, 2021 08:08
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If CIG attempted to make a door more secure they would knock a whole in the wall next to the door take the bricks and spend 2 years developing a special glue that would allow bricks to be stuck to the door and make it harder to break into. The end result is half the bricks fall of and end up glued to the floor, the door cant shut and every one now uses the unsecured hole the wall instead of the door. CIG would say they nailed making a tough door as its to much effort to demolish. If anyone complains it's only T0 security.
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Aug 13, 2021 08:21
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AutismVaccine posted:the best story was the idea to use bits with 8 states instead of being 0/1. Just mindboggling Derek Smart alt spotted.
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I love dream of reselling some one else software because I licensed it stopped updating it and made some changes to it.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:They are refactoring scene 6b- t501 frame 3/7733889219 even though the scene has yet to be filmed Rumours are that they having trouble with the can opener NOT clipping into the can.
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Penitent posted:I'm still amazed that if you don't take off from the hangar fast enough in your video game space ship... the port authority calls and tells you to get the gently caress out of your ship and they are putting it back in storage. So if you're new and trying to figure out which buttons to press in their war crime of a UI to start your video game space ship... if you take too long you get told to get the gently caress out. It's an incredible design choice.  In ED, stations guns will blow you up for pad loitering, but at least it has tutorial and you can rebuy your ship instantly. It still amazes me that despite all the stupid choices in ED and all the grind, it still seems reasonable compared to SC.Penitent posted:What's the story with the mess hall/Sandi?
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The Titanic posted:Oh shoot that reminds me we haven't had an update on the mess hall scene lately. Didn't Chris jet over to jolly olde Englande recently? The pace of mess hall scene development is really going to pick up now, what with Chris Roberts himself within yelling distance of the poor kids assigned to work on Squadron 404. Some of them might have considered asking silly questions like "Why do the NPCs need to 'decide' anything in the mess hall? Isn't this just a cutscene? Who gives a poo poo about this?" or "Why is this scene so fuckin' long, and also so terribly written?" and "Can anyone here help me with my resume and a cover letter?", but with Chris there to shriek "JUST GET IT DONE," they'll shut up and just get it done, and finally make this hacked-together CryEngine simulate exciting cafeteria action without any cheating. Unless Chris gets delayed looking for a good vitamin supplier in the UK, I guess.
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Penitent posted:
hosed up if true. It's not true, You are a dirty goon fudster, Star Citizen has VERY few bugs.
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Dwesa posted:Somehow static downsized planets with crap like low-gravity mini-gas-giant with breathable atmosphere are supposed to be more realistic than ED's galaxy Well just think about this 300 billion actual stars divided by 150k real stars gives a pathetic ratio. But with Star Citizen you divide 300 billion with zero and the result is so amazing that it cannot be even calculated!
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ED has billions of planets? Well SC is going to have trillions of planets, and will meticulously simulate billions of years of geology and organic evolution for every single planet, so one day you'll be able to land on a rocky world and excavate real alien dinosaur bones! And then you'll be able to host a xenopaleology conference and invite other alien dinosaur experts to give talks on their findings! And maybe your findings will be published in the journal of astro xeno biology which is an in-game newspaper run by players! You'll even get interviewed on space TV!!
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communism bitch posted:ED has billions of planets? Well SC is going to have trillions of planets, and will meticulously simulate billions of years of geology and organic evolution for every single planet, so one day you'll be able to land on a rocky world and excavate real alien dinosaur bones! And then you'll be able to host a xenopaleography conference and invite other alien dinosaur experts to give talks on their findings! And maybe your findings will be published in the journal of astro xeno biology which is an in-game newspaper run by players! You'll even get interviewed on space TV!! Note: Dino bones will currently spawn inside ships and players rather than in the ground, space TV is still awaiting the release of the space TV spaceship and the journals are not and will never be peer reviewed
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Lammasu posted:Anyone heard of the first David Cage game Omikcron The Nomad Soul? It had a bunch of different mechanics like adventure puzzle solving, first person shooting and 2d fighting game stuff. It's a mess and is the most imfamouse game they ever played on Super Best Friends. I was looking forward to that way back in the day because I played the demo and it seemed super tight and unique. Little did I know that basically only the demo had this kind of functionality. Everything after it was basically on rails with little to no ways to do things differently and it climbed aboard the crazy train pretty quickly while trying to be The Matrix vs Voodoo space bugs.
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Penitent posted:On the subject of "not fake, but not really gameplay"... Just wait until CR brings you his vision for permanent medical trauma and the slow/fast disablement of player avatars until your character is permanently dead with ground breaking "medical gameplay".
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I unironically loved Omikron, which I got on the Dreamcast (double owned lol). It was so loving weird and wonderful. Like the entire conceit of the game was that you - the player - were being contacted through your TV and asked to help save their world by possessing people through the game console, and in theory you could just go around possessing different people with different abilities to get through different obstacles (but in practice you only ever used like one or two hosts through the entire game) and then there were evil bug people and poo poo. But you could go to David Bowie concerts! And learn ancient magic! And use your VR training suite in your apartment to practice ancient martial arts! And join illegal gladiator fighting rings! You could just go browse a bookshop and buy dozens (hundreds?) of books about the world, most of which only served to flesh out the lore. You could just spend a few hours being a fantasy/cyberpunk cop out on the beat, stopping holdups at liquor stores or whatever, or go shopping for random poo poo. Honestly, Omikron was loving wild, like some messed up fever dream or a really bad trip. I'm sure it's aged terribly, but it's dirt cheap on Steam these days and if you have a tolerance for the jankiest of eurojank it is absolutely worth experiencing. I say "experiencing" and not "playing" because it's probably night unplayable, as the actual gameplay is a mish-mash of 3d "open world" adventure, Tekken 1 style fighting (but infinitely more primitive), and random first person shooter sections all with a thin veneer of rpg mechanics over the top. terrible loving gameplay. Really fascinating concept. communism bitch fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Dwesa posted:While ED does have planetary orbits the star systems themselves don't move- they are fixed to the database location they were sourced from (or where the RNG places them). Meaning not only are their locations not accurate to the inch, they aren't accurate to within millions of miles anymore for the ones that were sourced on reality. Elite is a shite game but they absolutely nail the galaxy thing. The speed a star moves is typically about 0.1 arc second per year. This is almost imperceptible, but over the course of 2000 years, for example, a typical star would have moved across the sky by about half a degree, or the width of the Moon in the sky. In other words there is no loving point in modelling star systems motion in a game that at most is going to live a few more years.
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In case of Star Citizen the actual game part might not even be done by then!
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MedicineHut posted:Elite is a shite game but they absolutely nail the galaxy thing. The speed a star moves is typically about 0.1 arc second per year. This is almost imperceptible, but over the course of 2000 years, for example, a typical star would have moved across the sky by about half a degree, or the width of the Moon in the sky. In other words there is no loving point in modelling star systems motion in a game that at most is going to live a few more years. Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt Not gonna  because I believe they are worth saving, but what's the thread opinion on how heavy to rip the piss out of them if they do buy in? Have known this person 20+ years so comfortable being brutally honest with them
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NumptyScrub posted:Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt Point and laugh while projecting an endless stream of bug videos onto the wall behind you.
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NumptyScrub posted:Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt Just heavily encourage they try and play it in one of the free events if they still are doing those. The rest will take care of itself
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communism bitch posted:ED has billions of planets? Well SC is going to have trillions of planets, and will meticulously simulate billions of years of geology and organic evolution for every single planet, so one day you'll be able to land on a rocky world and excavate real alien dinosaur bones! And then you'll be able to host a xenopaleology conference and invite other alien dinosaur experts to give talks on their findings! And maybe your findings will be published in the journal of astro xeno biology which is an in-game newspaper run by players! You'll even get interviewed on space TV!! I don't see how any of that helps me get an Idris. But xeno biology pays well you say. But does it pay better than pretending to be BettyBigTits?
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NumptyScrub posted:Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt It's important for people who are used to get what they paid for to get grifted occasionally (as long as it only stings), helps the immune system. No need to piss on them, just tell them truth: It's not a game but a fund raising campaign masquerading as one. If they buy the game then welp, you'll have something to talk about in a few years.
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NumptyScrub posted:Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt At this point I've helped a couple IRL friends get their money out of SC and tbh they'll either get it or they won't, but some gentle mockery any time they bring it up doesn't hurt.
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NumptyScrub posted:Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt Just let em do it, it'll be a good lesson Or maybe they'll be one of those weirdos who gets completely obsessed with it despite everything. Either way it'll be funny
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I mean Star Citizen sucks and people who buy it are dumb but I don't think it's really grounds to drive a decades-old friendship into the ground That said, load up the buggiest compilations and start forwarding links just to be safe DaysBefore fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Trilobite posted:Didn't Chris jet over to jolly olde Englande recently? The pace of mess hall scene development is really going to pick up now, what with Chris Roberts himself within yelling distance of the poor kids assigned to work on Squadron 404. Is it hard to get cocaine in Great Britain? I'm clueless about such things in America, never mind overseas.
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Lammasu posted:Is it hard to get cocaine in Great Britain? I'm clueless about such things in America, never mind overseas. No not really. But maybe a little harder than in the US since we have a massive land border connecting us to the countries where it is manufactured. But I am fairly sure you could literally just go online and find someone to sell you coke in any reasonably sized British city.
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I mean, if you're a wageslave plebescrub or could get pretty tricky to score cocaine in certain Asian countries but once you cross the line into wealthy then it becomes trivial.
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I think I confused my crazy games together earlier, not that anybody cares. I was thinking Indigo Prophecy or whatever it was where you were Matrix vs voodoo bugs. Omikron was cooler-ish because of the cast and how it just wrecked the 4th wall as a game mechanic. Though I seem to recall that after you killed/saved the first character you body control, the game basically broke down story wise. Any future characters you took over had no story or life outside of being able to visit their apartment. I don't think I ever beat Omikron either because it was just slightly not fun. I liked the fighting game part but not so much the FPS battles, so I think I just stopped somewhere around some windy or ice prison level or something. Anyhow enjoy. Both of the games above are still better and more cinematic, fun, and well thought out than Star Citizen. 
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NumptyScrub posted:Was talking to an IRL friend of mine who is big into ED, and they are studiously trying to ignore that ED has been released for long enough now that it is hitting end of life, which saddens them. Unfortunately in the same conversation they started telling me how they thought SC "looks amazing" (SC was reintroduced to them via the whole ex-Odyssey streamer thing) and I am now worried they are going to buy in, despite me having told them for years how it's a dumpster fire made of incompetence and dreams.txt You know as well as we do that the correct thing to do is to encourage them to buy an Idris and keep mining them for thread content.
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