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ColdIronsBound posted:Seeing as we're going around the houses talking about old games. It's Black Eagles. I may be a bit biased towards birds of prey but that doesn't make it any less true.
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I got the sense that the boss rush end game add on in hollow Knight was really added for the online community / streamer people/speedrunners. I definitely don't consider it a true part of the experience just more content for whoever wants to really get into the mechanics
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I just put Ender Lilies on my wish list, thank you thread
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Infinity Gaia posted:No, don't do this. That argument is supposed to be sealed in the Fire Emblem thread! You can't just casually start a war like this! (But it's Blue Lions, Dimitri is just crazy enough to work)
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Raylax posted:The main two things I dislike about Hollow Knight are the (previously discussed) "soul retrieval" mechanic lifted from Dark Souls that really doesn't fit particularly well here, and it falling into what I consider to be a bit of a common sucessful indie trap - continual updates / DLC pushing the 100% completion ceiling (or 112% in HK's case) higher and higher until it is completely out of reach to all except ultra-diehards who are happy to make the game their Twitch career for a few months. I gave up at 111% during the Godhome DLC because I was not prepared to pour at least as much time as the entire rest of the game into beating the rest of the gauntlets and dozens of ultra-hard remixed boss encounters, so I never quite got to feel the satsifaction of having completely beaten it. you dont have to 100% a game. its fine for them to add a bunch of good free content that other people enjoy.
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ender lilies is a very good game and i enjoyed every moment of it to the point that i 100%ed it and it never felt frustrating or like a chore i know some people were keen on taking a look at it and immediately writing it off because of some bizarre preconceived notions in their head but my only response to that is they missed out on an incredible experience and i get to laugh at them namaste
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Aug 13, 2021 18:33
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FFXIV Porn posted:i never did any of the endgame stuff in hollow knight. never saw the 'true ending' or any of the dlc stuff. i fought the regular-rear end final boss and said yep, i'm done with this game. it was fine but not amazing. there are definitely way better metroidvanias out there, and there are also way worse. Related to this, something I do think is a weakness in Hollow Knight is that the "True ending" encompasses like the entire final third of the game, including some of the most interesting areas and lore/plot beats. Folks who beat the "first final boss" and call it quits miss out on a lot of really cool stuff. This is separate from the boss rush stuff, which I never touched because I had no interest in it.
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Raylax posted:It was a couple years ago, I may be misremembering the completion requirements. Did the individual boss encounter rooms in godhome not count at all? I'd remembered it as needing to do the original and remix versions but not the remix OHK ones. I mostly just remember doing the first couple boss remixes, seeing how many there were after it, and going "wow, I am not doing that" the first four pantheons count toward completion. the individual statues are just there for practice and the final pantheon is for bragging rights and a twenty-second cutscene we do not speak of the zote pantheon
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FFXIV Porn posted:i never did any of the endgame stuff in hollow knight. never saw the 'true ending' or any of the dlc stuff. i fought the regular-rear end final boss and said yep, i'm done with this game. it was fine but not amazing. there are definitely way better metroidvanias out there, and there are also way worse. What are some way better ones?
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Morpheus posted:What are some way better ones? super metroid, metroid fusion, any of the latter-day castlevanias except for maybe circle of the moon and harmony of dissonance, bloodstained: ritual of the night, timespinner just my opinion 
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FFXIV Porn posted:super metroid, metroid fusion, any of the latter-day castlevanias except for maybe circle of the moon and harmony of dissonance, bloodstained: ritual of the night, timespinner Isn't it about... time? From the Mansion of Dracula of Latter Day Castlevanias
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i hear ender lilies is good too but i haven't played it yet
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Aug 13, 2021 19:13
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Is there a thread recommended Joycon repair kit to order or is it better to try and RMA through Nintendo? I've been playing through Mario Odyssey four years late and it's gotten to the point where I need to fix the problem.
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The best house is the one with whichever lord you want to bone the most.
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i feel like there's four quadrants of metroidvania quadrant 1: souls-y games with additional ability gating.. so stuff like hollow knight, GRIME quadrant 2: RPG mechanics and combat focus, basically SOTN, Bloodstained, Igavanias in general. main difference between this and quadrant 1 is one is much friendlier to button mashing and making mistakes... but I mean obviously, you wouldn't look at Bloodstained and Momodora Reverie and go "they're the same game!" I think you understand the distinction I'm making here. quadrant 3: heavy on isolation and atmosphere, like metroid, environmental station alpha, visual out, axiom verge quadrant 4: zelda-style game structure where you go into 'dungeon' areas where you get an ability/tool and fight a boss. note that i'm still talking about side-scrolling conventional metroidvanias here, like Kunai, Shantae series, and I think Phoenotopia is like this? it's been a while since i played it then you get the four quadrants of "people tag this as metroidvania even though it's not because it has no ability gating" games: quadrant 1: just any souls-like in general regardless of how it's structured quadrant 2: any open-world game that is 2D (fez, apotheon, full bore) quadrant 3: games that are linear with a-to-b levels, just because you can go back to older levels if you want to, to find secrets. not many notable games create this confusion, mostly smaller games. although i want to say cave story is ALMOST in this category, but you do go back and forth a little bit in that game at least. quadrant 4: the dreaded "roguevania" tag which is even more convoluted than metroidvania, because it often just means "roguelite with routing". dead cells, rogue legacy to name a couple examples. an example of an actual roguelite metroidvania would be A Robot Named Fight.. if the tag just meant games like ARNF then I wouldn't have a bone to pick with the tag!! you can basically make graphs of these quadrants and plot games on them The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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*points at seagull flying past* metroidvania
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Why haven't we had a game yet where you go between Metroid and Castlevania, like that one SM/LttP hack? Just have Samus travel to Dracula's castle with a bunch of Metroids or something and have her team up with Alucard to stop Dracula's wedding to Mother Brain.
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The 7th Guest posted:
These are Wonder Boy-likes
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John Wick of Dogs posted:The one that isn't the bad guy house or the royal noble house. Maybe the Golden Deer or Blue Lions should have chosen to have a woman leading them, then.  Mega64 posted:The best house is the one with whichever lord you want to bone the most. Good Soldier Svejk posted:Crimson Axe Queen 
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elf help book posted:These are Wonder Boy-likes also I'd say it's more Monster World than Wonder Boy itself since the original Wonder Boy is just a basic arcade game (which of course became Adventure Island in america) and Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair is like a weird platformer shmup autoscroller The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Aug 13, 2021 19:39
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i think dracula should be allowed to marry mother brain. love is love. samus and alucard can learn to share the sega genesis
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I've been getting back into Ring Fit and I'm having a bit more fun now that I've got the difficulty dialed in to stop straining my quads.
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I will file the The 7th Guest Eightfold Way of Metroidvania alongside the The 7th Guest Theory of RPG Dweebs thank you
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Mega64 posted:Why haven't we had a game yet where you go between Metroid and Castlevania, like that one SM/LttP hack? Hell yeah, also have Dracula escape to Metroid times so Alucard can pirouette around Zebes
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The 7th Guest posted:yeah that's fair. I guess at the time Zelda was more non-linear and it wasn't until Link to the Past that it really set up the typical structure that we know as the Zelda experience now Then we should call Metroidvanias Symphroids
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elf help book posted:Then we should call Metroidvanias Symphroids if snowrunner added metroidvania mechanics it could be a Monstertruck game e: incidentally there's a pretty cool looking 3D Metroidvania coming out next week called Recompile but unfortunately it won't be on Switch (it will be on Gamepass though) The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Read After Burning posted:Maybe the Golden Deer or Blue Lions should have chosen to have a woman leading them, then. They did, her name is Byleth
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I don't think Byleth identifies as a man or a woman, because that would involve having an identity.
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byleth identifies as a fisher
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I could get into a Monster Hunter metroidvania. Do some sequence breaking with gunlance blast dashing.
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Pikmin 2 is a metroidvania
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Stux posted:you dont have to 100% a game. its fine for them to add a bunch of good free content that other people enjoy. Well it's obviously Friday the 13th cause Stux is right. What else can go wrong?
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all video games on a tv are pong-likes.
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Are the Metro ports OK? Curious because I couldn't get into it on the PC but thinking maybe playing on the couch would help with that. Oh I guess I never refunded it so Steam Link is an option too if the Switch port is rear end. Social Animal fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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Mega64 posted:Why haven't we had a game yet where you go between Metroid and Castlevania, like that one SM/LttP hack?
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DariusLikewise posted:Is there a thread recommended Joycon repair kit to order or is it better to try and RMA through Nintendo? I've been playing through Mario Odyssey four years late and it's gotten to the point where I need to fix the problem. I picked up a cheap kit off Amazon and did it myself. Came with a bunch of tools and 2 joysticks. I replaced both, but I did snap the battery cable in my right joycon and had to order a replacement. Other than that it was pretty painless if a bit tedious. It's also the only small electronic repair I've ever done. It was this kit specifically.
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are joyocn repairs still free with nintendo thats what i would do if they are. dunno if that ever rolled out outside the us
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The 7th Guest posted:i feel like there's four quadrants of metroidvania imo hollow knight slots perfectly into quadrant 3. it's more "souls-y" to the extent that it has the bloodstain mechanic and some alive NPCs. idk what GRIME is but i don't know if quadrant 1 is too distinct.
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