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Well well, look at the city slicker comin' in here with his armored humvee.
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Aug 13, 2021 21:47
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1425456787038298118?s=20
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Aug 13, 2021 21:52
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Aug 13, 2021 21:55
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Aug 13, 2021 21:57
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Aug 13, 2021 22:14
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Holy poo poo the balls on them!
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Aug 13, 2021 22:54
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The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. This is apparently the 1747 flag of Afghanistan - looks pretty neat, I think. 
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Aug 13, 2021 22:55
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. shut the gently caress up
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Aug 13, 2021 22:59
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. sounds like a big ol' somebody else's problem, the usa should not be the world's cop
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Aug 13, 2021 22:59
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. shut up
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Aug 13, 2021 23:00
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The USA should have invaded Saudi Arabia if they needed to invade someone after 9/11
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Aug 13, 2021 23:25
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Antonymous posted:is this a formerly Chuck's joke Rasheed's (Formerly Haq's).
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Aug 13, 2021 23:25
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. behold, a liberal
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Aug 13, 2021 23:27
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yeah guys don't portray this way as corporate greed it was corporate greed AND unfocused bloodlust for revenge
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Aug 13, 2021 23:31
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A big difference is invading Afghanistan was done with a comprehensible argument that wasn't 100% deliberate lies by neocons and was extremely popular within the US -- and initially not super unpopular elsewhere. If Al Gore had been president he probably would have invaded Afghanistan. Invading Iraq was much more controversial and based on entirely made up lies, and the particular coalition of war profiteers, psychopaths, and murdering liars bankrolling the neocons might not have orchestrated the invasion under Gore. Maybe they would have, who knows, but the two wars are pretty different in background and execution. The neocons had no real interest in invading somewhere as poor and undeveloped as Afghanistan so they half-assed that war
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Aug 13, 2021 23:42
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. they offered to give up bin laden but the us invaded anyway because they thought it would put pressure on iran. this is also why iraq was invaded.
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Aug 14, 2021 00:27
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both wars were started under false pretenses, the popular narrative only acknowledges the iraq war as such
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Aug 14, 2021 00:29
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The Saucer Hovers posted:both wars were started under false pretenses, the popular narrative only acknowledges the iraq war as such What was the false pretense for invading Afghanistan? The Bush admin promised revenge against the country harboring Osama Bin Laden. There was a bunch of sugarcoating bullshit about liberating women and democratic elections etc. but everyone knew it was about revenge and deterrence. ArmZ posted:they offered to give up bin laden but the us invaded anyway because they thought it would put pressure on iran. this is also why iraq was invaded. Yeah that was one reason too (surround Iran on all sides with
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Aug 14, 2021 00:41
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:shut the gently caress up
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Aug 14, 2021 00:42
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9O94UTDAJQ
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Aug 14, 2021 01:03
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) Lol
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Aug 14, 2021 01:13
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funny how we invaded Afghanistan over 911 but Saudi Arabia is still one of our closest allies in the region
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Aug 14, 2021 01:15
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StashAugustine posted:funny how we invaded Afghanistan over 911 but Saudi Arabia is still one of our closest allies in the region Dude that isn't funny 
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Aug 14, 2021 01:33
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Delthalaz posted:A big difference is invading Afghanistan was done with a comprehensible argument that wasn't 100% deliberate lies by neocons and was extremely popular within the US -- and initially not super unpopular elsewhere. If Al Gore had been president he probably would have invaded Afghanistan. Invading Iraq was much more controversial and based on entirely made up lies, and the particular coalition of war profiteers, psychopaths, and murdering liars bankrolling the neocons might not have orchestrated the invasion under Gore. Maybe they would have, who knows, but the two wars are pretty different in background and execution. The neocons had no real interest in invading somewhere as poor and undeveloped as Afghanistan so they half-assed that war If Al Gore had been president, 9/11 would never have happened.
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Aug 14, 2021 01:43
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Strange to think that in the 70's Osama Bin Laden would've been a cigarette smoking Communist and it was only the tide of history that pushed him into being a ultraconservative religious warrior.
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Aug 14, 2021 01:43
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Remember when the U.S. handed the Taliban $43 million and promised aid in return for them pretending to stop opium production, literally months before 9/11?
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Aug 14, 2021 01:53
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Imagine thinking for a second that America should be out there dealing with any other countries issues You dumb fucks couldn’t even run an election without shootings and an attempted coup gently caress off yanks
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Aug 14, 2021 02:11
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Delthalaz posted:The entire country wanted blood i didnt
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Aug 14, 2021 02:30
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duz posted:i didnt I did.
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Aug 14, 2021 02:39
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Aug 14, 2021 02:41
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https://twitter.com/zenophelion/status/1426279582399926277?s=19 I dunno where else to post this and i cant keep it to myself.
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Aug 14, 2021 03:00
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Aug 14, 2021 03:00
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. Source your quotes
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Aug 14, 2021 03:05
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Delthalaz posted:What was the false pretense for invading Afghanistan? The Bush admin promised revenge against the country harboring Osama Bin Laden. There was a bunch of sugarcoating bullshit about liberating women and democratic elections etc. but everyone knew it was about revenge and deterrence. Seems like an incredibly lovely rationale for invading and destabilizing a sovereign nation
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Aug 14, 2021 03:06
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duz posted:i didnt I didn’t either, and I stood around holding a sign like a jackass about it because I still had faith that those in charge gave a drat what people wanted. RIP liberal me from 20 years ago.
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Aug 14, 2021 03:12
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Pope Hilarius II posted:The "invasion" (if it can be called that) of Afghanistan in 2001 was a wholly different animal from the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Taliban was sheltering Osama bin Laden and its regime had zero redeeming qualities. I'm not a supporter of any kind of war, but if any nation circa 2001 deserved to get its government toppled, it was Afghanistan. The Taliban basically were the ISIS of their time and governed Afghanistan for 5 years and managed to piss off almost everyone including their own population due to their horrible level of cruelty and savagery. So portraying that campaign as yet another imperialist adventure of barely concealed corporated greed is, for once, kind of misleading. The whole "no nation building!" was super dumb though and even a moderately intelligent person back then could have predicted the situation it would lead to. gently caress you, idiot. Hundreds of thousands of people were murdered in Afghanistan. I can't conceive of a person so loving stupid they imagine there's some justification for innocent people being turned into blood mist by robots for a generation. I guess it's some consolation that you're so loving stupid you'll choke on your own tongue eventually
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Aug 14, 2021 03:57
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Remember how the US was in Afghanistan for the noble and clear purpose of Revenge. Then 10 years later, an assassin squad got revenge by killing bin Laden. In Pakistan. Then spent 10 more years in Afghanistan murdering and plundering, only for the Taliban to immediately take back control anyway because nobody the US propped up could maintain the tiniest bit of legitimacy? If only they had remembered why they were really there. Revenge on anyone with a turban, who was clearly in al-Qaeda and also in league with Saddam Hussein, the Ayatollah, and North Korea.
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Aug 14, 2021 03:59
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remember how the cia used a vaccination program to spy on bin laden, catastrophically damaging public health in the region; and then it turned out they probably just got a tip from pakistani intelligence that had been holding him the whole time and the insanely evil vaccine poo poo was an attempt to save face
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lol how many of the people involved or hurt in Operation Fake Vaccines are also now covid antivaxxers because of it, making it so the US can further contribute to people dying?
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