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Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Radirot posted:

fresh meat.

MUH OOO'RAH TO ASHES *Actively avoiding any combat as much as possible*

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F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010


look at these loving losers. i hope they dont come back alive.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


"Oh no, the leopard I helped over 30 years ago finally decided to tear my face off! :qq:"

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1426294741390565379?s=20

been fun seeing think tankers cry about the Taliban take over Afghanistan while supporting similar political groups in Syria
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1399893700512301057?s=20

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfR7rcAfp0

going:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q59asuJ2loI

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor



good hustle lads

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


this time for sure

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Atrocious Joe posted:

been fun seeing think tankers cry about the Taliban take over Afghanistan while supporting similar political groups in Syrian

That's another thing that breaks me, we love religious freaks, we love giving them guns and supporting their govts, that was the whole point of the last 80 years, to break the socialists. We should be overjoyed but our little piss baby ego won't give us that.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010


oz should go enlist then

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Man I'd love to head back with just the small arms and the poo poo we could fit on a few Galaxies. Maybe I'll see my old HMMVW being driven by the guys trying to kill me.

https://youtu.be/nN120kCiVyQ

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019



Radirot posted:

fresh meat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q7VqqkNWHA

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


ENFORCE THE UNITED STATES DRESS CODE AT ALL COSTS!

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Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1426294741390565379?s=20

been fun seeing think tankers cry about the Taliban take over Afghanistan while supporting similar political groups in Syria
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1399893700512301057?s=20

Do these people think we aren't going to be droning the poo poo out of Afghanistan for the next 50 years? It's going to be a loving playground for undisclosed operations forever

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
I don't wish them them death but seriously get the gently caress out quickly please after this hopefully final evacuation.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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yellowcar posted:

oz should go enlist then

Collective pronouns, the SS-tier weasel word of brave chickenhawks

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


ENFORCE THE UNITED STATES DRESS CODE AT ALL COSTS!

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I would bet all the money in my pockets that in fewer people will die in Afghanistan in the next 20 years from unnatural causes than died in the past 20 years of US occupation.

The same obvious loving point applies now like it did in 2003, if the only reason we invade or fight somewhere is protecting a local populace, then we should invading half the countries on Earth. There is no good justification for being there other than "national pride."

Sad Billionaire
Mar 31, 2009

What a twist
Fan of Britches
wow seein a lot of goons in here who dont know the pottery barn rule

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Sad Billionaire posted:

wow seein a lot of goons in here who dont know the pottery barn rule

gently caress colin powell

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Sad Billionaire posted:

wow seein a lot of goons in here who dont know the pottery barn rule

I mean, we did try to buy it! They don't seem to want to take our money! Just like the real pottery barn.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

What an awful, tragic irony. President Biden in April chose Sept. 11 as the deadline for U.S. troops to withdraw from Afghanistan. Now it’s possible that, on the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the Taliban that once protected Osama bin Laden and that the U.S. ousted from power could again rule in Kabul. Mr. Biden would like to absolve himself of responsibility for this looming defeat, but he cannot. He could have withdrawn U.S. forces in a careful way based on conditions and a plan to shore up Afghan forces or midwife an alliance between regional tribal warlords and the government in Kabul. The President did none of that.

Instead his mid-April decision to withdraw, on the eve of the summer fighting season, triggered the May 1 start of the Taliban offensive. The rapid withdrawal timetable meant U.S. forces would be preoccupied with that task rather than assisting Afghan forces. His decision to abandon multiple military bases, and withdraw all air power, has denied the Afghan army crucial support it relied on.

We are now watching the consequences, as the Taliban captures city after city. Soon the group could control or contest more than 90% of the country, including traditional anti-Taliban strongholds in the north. Insurgents have seized Kandahar and Herat—the second and third largest cities—and an assault on Kabul could come soon. The U.S. is evacuating all but a bare-bones diplomatic staff and may even move them from the U.S. Embassy. Even now, however, it’s not too late to stop or slow the slaughter. Outside of well-regarded special forces units, Afghan army troops have retreated willy-nilly as they’ve lost confidence in holding off the Taliban. But allied air power and maintenance assistance were a basic part of Kabul’s defense strategy.

Government forces are more likely to fight, and could stand a chance, if Mr. Biden brings U.S. air assets back to the country. The U.S. will also need to deploy enough troops and contractors to keep the planes flying and Bagram air base secure.

The fall of Kabul may look inevitable, but the Taliban isn’t the Wehrmacht. A display of even modest renewed U.S. support would boost Afghan morale and give the Taliban pause on its march to Kabul. Once a rout is stopped, the U.S. can then work on a strategy that assists Afghans who oppose the Taliban to set up a resistance. This means working with friendly regional leaders who can provide areas of operational control. CIA teams, like Team Alpha that helped to topple the Taliban in 2001, could enter the country now and rally pockets against the Taliban with air power support. The goal would be to impose costs that would give the Taliban reason to doubt it can regain control of the country. It could also give the Afghan government some negotiating leverage in talks with the Taliban.

Sen. Lindsey Graham suggests reconstituting a version of the bipartisan Afghanistan Study Group to offer ideas for the Biden Administration. In February that group laid out a plan for a small residual U.S. force in Afghanistan that could prevent exactly the kind of rout we’re now seeing. This would need to be done quickly, but there is enough retired military and political expertise on Afghanistan to make it happen. This would be an admission that Mr. Biden’s withdrawal was a mistake, but that would be a small price to avoid strategic disaster and perhaps a bloodbath that will stain America’s reputation and haunt his Presidency. Even the Democratic media has now picked up the Vietnam metaphor—“Biden’s Saigon”—that we warned about weeks ago.

So far Mr. Biden seems determined to stick with his hell-bent withdrawal, and perhaps he thinks Americans won’t care. But they will care if they see in a few weeks or months the revival of safe havens for al Qaeda or Islamic State. They will care if they think the U.S. homeland is threatened. And they’ll care if China, Russia and Iran see the U.S. defeated in Afghanistan by a militia like the Taliban and conclude that Mr. Biden will fold if they challenge U.S. friends and interests. Each of them drew that conclusion about Barack Obama and exploited it in the South China Sea, Ukraine and Syria, and the broader Middle East. Mr. Biden’s vision to rally an alliance of democracies will find fewer takers.

We realize that our advice is a long shot given Mr. Biden’s determination to wash his hands of Afghanistan. But the costs of the bloody defeat that now seems likely will be far greater than the President thinks if the Taliban’s flag soon flies over Kabul.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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bedpan posted:

cope more

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
lol whoever wrote that article is a crybaby loser who can’t get it through his thick skull that there is literally nothing america can do at this point, they had 20 years but spent the time jerking off in the wind. it’s too late bitch.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019


The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Radirot posted:

I don't wish them them death but seriously get the gently caress out quickly please after this hopefully final evacuation.

I hope our special forces make it home OK, so when social order starts to break down at home they can form death squads and canoe my neighbors at 2am.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Al-Saqr posted:

lol whoever wrote that article is a crybaby loser who can’t get it through his thick skull that there is literally nothing america can do at this point, they had 20 years but spent the time jerking off in the wind. it’s too late bitch.

the Wallstreet Journal Editorial Board

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Al-Saqr posted:

lol whoever wrote that article is a crybaby loser who can’t get it through his thick skull that there is literally nothing america can do at this point, they had 20 years but spent the time jerking off in the wind. it’s too late bitch.

It gets funnier, once you understand the basic rhetorical formula of warmongering think tanks is cowards co-opting others for their fantasies and then whine about the subsequent lack of action (because nobody is dumb enough to fall for it)

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc6KUlXP--M

Morbus
May 18, 2004

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Look these supposedly competent elements just can't see the wider view from here in Doha.

i lol'd

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
i'm the military capiability of the taliban regime

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

I hope our special forces make it home OK, so when social order starts to break down at home they can form death squads and canoe my neighbors at 2am.

nah we already have the police.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Whatever else is true we should drop a lot of CIA dudes in the Afghan hinterland. Before one of them runs for the presidency again.

Goon Boots
Feb 2, 2020



lol too scared to put names directly on it

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://twitter.com/tajudensoroush/status/1426454447241285633?s=21

https://twitter.com/natsecjeff/status/1426454235189764099?s=21

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


it’s nice to see people smiling and feeling free. drat right i’d praise the lord if he answered my prayers like that.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
GAME OVeR

https://twitter.com/hnajafizada/status/1426458983078973442?s=21


more details in thread:-

https://twitter.com/hnajafizada/status/1426459810027999232?s=21

https://twitter.com/hnajafizada/status/1426460825003376641?s=21

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Its over

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
What's the appeal of the Taliban for its members? Seems like a quite unpleasant group to throw your lot in with.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What's the appeal of the Taliban for its members? Seems like a quite unpleasant group to throw your lot in with.

It's the only group that presents a viable ideological alternative to exploitation at the hands of Western powers and their local quislings. Also, knowing nothing about it, maybe the religious practice papers over some ethnic/tribal divisions? Also I guess they're backed by the Pakistani ISI? And maybe the Saudis?

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
people love winners and strivers and I guess the Taliban have the US beat in that regard.

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