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I just came across this nugget of information:quote:The Government also noted that an estimated 3.5 million people do not have valid photo ID in the midst of an article about anonymity on social media source: https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2021/hss/has-the-time-come-to-end-anonymity-on-social-media.html I was thinking about all those folk who claim that insisting on photo id for voting was not an issue on the grounds that 'everyone' has it or shelling out nearly £100 for a passport is not a problem while it appears the government knows different (source for this 3.5m figure isn't specifically reference - not that I can see anyway - but is in the govt response to Katy Price's petition) 3.5m potentially disenfranchised voters is a significant number. Catte tax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQLQesbd7js Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Aug 14, 2021 |
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I suspect anybody who thinks voter ID is a good idea is trying to disenfranchise people whether they say it or not, so I doubt that will dissuade them.
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Aug 14, 2021 18:22
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madatory voter ID works okay in NI but here you can get a free electoral ID card that's accepted everywhere in place of driving licence or passport
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Aug 14, 2021 18:33
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Payndz posted:On the subject of blockchain, linked with 'lovely Tory politicians' because why not: Facebook Memories reminded me of a story from seven years ago, when Minister for Africa Mark Simmonds resigned his post because he just couldn't survive on his "intolerable" £120k plus expenses salary (while employing his wife for an extra £25k of public money). He stood down as an MP in 2015... and almost immediately joined the board of mining company African Potash. So far, so sleazy (but unsurprising). It's not even that good. There are meant to be oversights on things like MPs' personal interests and transitioning from public service to private employment, but they've been subverted, rendered useless or simply ignored. There's a requirement for ministers taking up roles in a private concern to be vetted for up to two years after leaving office, but not once have Acoba failed to approve an appointment - even when it's as nakedly corrupt as Simmonds.
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Aug 14, 2021 18:39
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ronya posted:is that really sensible? a design life of 60 years is typical; designing for longer periods itself consumes resources in a way which necessarily cannot foresee future improvements in engineering or changes in priorities or usages Mate when I was 7 we lived in a converted barn that was 600 years old. That is just not how it works here.
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Aug 14, 2021 19:07
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No idea if anyone has posted this in the thread but piers corbyn is a hero to a delusional antivax relative of mine. I gotta say, this was masterful https://twitter.com/joshua_pieters/status/1421464141697540099?s=20
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Aug 14, 2021 19:20
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OwlFancier posted:I suspect anybody who thinks voter ID is a good idea is trying to disenfranchise people whether they say it or not, so I doubt that will dissuade them. I've seen Americans saying very earnestly that voting should not be easy, wonder how long until this viewpoint becomes common over here.
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Aug 14, 2021 19:30
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Marmaduke! posted:I've seen Americans saying very earnestly that voting should not be easy, wonder how long until this viewpoint becomes common over here. "Only white males over 30 years of age who own their own property should be allowed to vote. That's how it always was and that's how it always should be. None of this voting if you are one of those WOMEN who can't be trusted and don't know their own minds - or one of those dreadful people who can't afford their own home." G. Ammon
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Aug 14, 2021 19:36
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*adds The Curse of OwlFancier to the big list of things that terrify Mumsnet*
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Guavanaut posted:*adds The Curse of OwlFancier to the big list of things that terrify Mumsnet* loving howling what. Where is there a loving morgue near the beach??? Why would there be a morgue down there? It's right at the bottom of the cliff the only things there are the other end of the lift, the pier, and some beach shops. Oh and an ancient pub over the river. I am genuinely fascinated now where this "morgue" is. Did she think the loving beach lockers were a morgue or something? I have no idea where she means and the actual beachfront stuff is very small so I am sure I would have noticed it. And how the gently caress do you feel "suffocated" in whitby or saltburn they're on top of loving cliffs. There is the entire north sea on one side and it's always blowing a gale because again, it's a cliff. The defining feature of whitby is wherever you are you can see the rest of the town because the entire thing is situated in a deep valley with a big river harbour in the middle. Also there's a word for being afraid of standing on the pier and it's loving acrophobia you melts. Bloody southerners honestly, you show them anything thats not flat and their minds just run out of their ears. E: oh my god I looked it up and the loving "morgue" is a tiny little old cellar built into one of the hills, I didn't even notice it was there. I would have thought it was a utility substation. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Aug 14, 2021 |
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I guess it's like the Jerusalem syndrome only instead of people that believe that Jesus is the Messiah and will come again if they go to Israel and wear a bedsheet it's people who are already suspicious of absolutely everything and heard that there was a Dracula up north or something.
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Aug 14, 2021 20:30
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https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1426552235459235840?s=20 We really need to harness the energy of boiling piss, could go carbon neutral within the month.
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Guavanaut posted:I guess it's like the Jerusalem syndrome only instead of people that believe that Jesus is the Messiah and will come again if they go to Israel and wear a bedsheet it's people who are already suspicious of absolutely everything and heard that there was a Dracula up north or something. I remember reading Natives, and getting to the point where Akala talks about the BAME generational gap in attitudes towards racism from police and schools, wondering how many first-gen migrants ended up in the shittier bits of the home counties, thought to themselves "you did colonialism for this?, and went full Paris Syndrome.
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Aug 14, 2021 20:42
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Marmaduke! posted:I've seen Americans saying very earnestly that voting should not be easy, wonder how long until this viewpoint becomes common over here. I see the "Oh you want ID for buying a beer/joining a library but not for voting?" takes quite a lot which on its face is appealing if you think of voting as an important act deciding the fate of the country and not as a right/obligation of all inhabitants of the country.
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Guavanaut posted:*adds The Curse of OwlFancier to the big list of things that terrify Mumsnet* Ok, turning this into an SCP. "When the photos they took on the pier were developed after they noticed they were all wearing victorian clothing, even the surrounding area looked like it did 150 years ago. But all bystanders, even the lone seagull that appeared in the shot, all their heads turned to be facing her, the woman. No matter how their bodies were positioned as the shot was taken, even those walking away or were not facing the camera. All the faces that could be seen, were showing laser like intense concentration"
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happyhippy posted:Ok, turning this into an SCP. Probably the biggest change to the pier area in the last 150 years is that it got significantly shorter, it used to be much longer but it broke and they never rebuilt most of it. So you could also include the idea that the picture was taken much further offshore.
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What is the difference between Mumsnet and Netmums? I’ve seen the latter mentioned a bit (that article above seems to mix them up) and of course Mumsnet is notorious. I’d like to think they split off because of Mumsnet’s decent into the terfhole, but it’s probably more prosaic than that.
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Aug 14, 2021 21:21
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are there men on mumset? i wonder what they would make of me if i posted there
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Aug 14, 2021 21:33
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Glinner used to post there until he got too divorced even for them, didn't he?
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Aug 14, 2021 21:42
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https://twitter.com/bbcyaldahakim/status/1426605800991207428?s=21 Cowardly, racist island being a cowardly, racist island.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Glinner used to post there until he got too divorced even for them, didn't he? He posted once looking for adoration and was immediately hounded out for being a man demanding access to women's spaces It was a diamond nestled in the Everest of dogshit that is terf lore
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My wife and I have just nicely moved into a new area and, years ago when we started thinking about it, we decided we were going to join the Labour party and get involved with the local group once we finally got settled. Partly it was to meet more people and make some lefty friends, and also because our now MP is a total poo poo even by Tory standards and anything we could do to try and get him out would be amazing. But then Keir happened and his purge of the left happened and now giving Labour money or helping to elect some centrist that would get a stamp of approval from the party both seem like terrible ideas. It might be judgmental, but it seems that anyone energised by the current state of the party enough to continue paying subs and turn up to meetings probably aren’t the kind of people we’re going to get on with very well. Where have others put their energies now the Labour party is generally poo poo? It’s a Tory/Labour duopoly where we are (near Bradford) and since Corbyn got the boot there’s no “mainstream” party worth a drat anymore anyway. Local charity/volunteering groups? Other national orgs?
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Aug 14, 2021 23:21
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Riot Food posted:Where have others put their energies now the Labour party is generally poo poo? Cannabis. Lots of cannabis.
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Aug 14, 2021 23:27
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Riot Food posted:My wife and I have just nicely moved into a new area and, years ago when we started thinking about it, we decided we were going to join the Labour party and get involved with the local group once we finally got settled. Partly it was to meet more people and make some lefty friends, and also because our now MP is a total poo poo even by Tory standards and anything we could do to try and get him out would be amazing. In my local area there are a lot of active community groups including: * a branch of the Transition Network https://transitionnetwork.org/ which does various things including local woodlands, community fridge, kitchen and wild flower gardens - they set up fruit trees in a local walking area where people can just go pick fruit off the trees and a couple of other similar projects * local branch of Amnesty International which has periodic letter writing get togethers * something called 'community champions' (which I don't think is related to the organisation of the same name which operates in London0 which pre-covid was organising things like local litter picks, cycle paths and so on Also, there's quite an active group of town councillors operating under a particular banner - they claim not be a political party but to all intents they are (shan't say in case it doxxes me - not sure how many of these groups they are nationally!) but based on this 'flatpack democracy' thing: https://www.flatpackdemocracy.co.uk/. They're quite strictly local politics only and apparently will disown any of their number who try for county council level! (They seem to be the 'yummy mummy' party - NOT mumset types. They held a BML vigil in a local park for example last year which was well attended by quite a few of the townsfolk including Labour party members. ) Locally, facebook seems to be the best place to find out about these groups.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:They held a BML vigil in a local park for example last year which was well attended by quite a few of the townsfolk including Labour party members.) Wish I knew about this, I'd travel the country for a Memorial vigil for Big Mouth Loud (This post exists for the 3 or 4 people whose interests combine poo poo posting about the misery of UK politics & watching Japanese independent wrestling shows featuring Katsuyori Shibata so don't worry if it makes absolutely no sense)
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forkboy84 posted:it makes absolutely no sense You're right 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I just came across this nugget of information: I seem to recall that a minister mentioned 3.5m people not having ID and therefore an online protection rule about ID being pointless about 2 hours after another minister said that almost everyone has ID already or can get some easily in relation to voting. One (or even both) of those ministers might have actually been Boris.
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Riot Food posted:But then Keir happened and his purge of the left happened and now giving Labour money or helping to elect some centrist that would get a stamp of approval from the party both seem like terrible ideas. It might be judgmental, but it seems that anyone energised by the current state of the party enough to continue paying subs and turn up to meetings probably aren’t the kind of people we’re going to get on with very well. Don’t join the Labour Party if you don’t want to, but I can assure you that there are still plenty of good and decent socialists in there. Literally yesterday the left won an internal election.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Don’t join the Labour Party if you don’t want to, but I can assure you that there are still plenty of good and decent socialists in there. Literally yesterday the left won an internal election. What was that about? The conference arrangements thing?
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I just diverted my monthly labour party and various other bits and bobs to a local animal shelter. They send me updates on kitties and good doggos and once covid is a bit more sane I'll probably go help out. Definitely feels more helpful and gives more warm fuzzies than the local bullshit email urging me to support the beige starman. https://youtu.be/RP_Ycy9D3Hk Here's a good video from a small content creator this thread linked a while ago on why centrism and Starmer is poo poo.
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Mebh posted:I just diverted my monthly labour party and various other bits and bobs to a local animal shelter. They send me updates on kitties and good doggos and once covid is a bit more sane I'll probably go help out. Thanks. I've watched the first 24 mins and will finish watching tomorrow. Very good video.
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OwlFancier posted:What was that about? The conference arrangements thing? The vital decision to see who gets control of the fiddle while Rome burns
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OwlFancier posted:What was that about? The conference arrangements thing? Yes.
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Riot Food posted:our now MP is a total poo poo even by Tory standards Let me guess, Shipley
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Riot Food posted:
I've sulked and done nothing while I wait for the SCG to split off from Labour and set up a new, socialist party that I can vote for. It'll happen soon, I'm sure 
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Pistol_Pete posted:I've sulked and done nothing while I wait for the SCG to split off from Labour and set up a new, socialist party that I can vote for. It'll happen soon, I'm sure Hey, me too! ...wait a minute. Are you passive aggressively mocking my constant passive aggressive snide bitching?  To continue the cycle of passive aggression, did you know you can be doing things, taking action, that you don't post about? Just a thought
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forkboy84 posted:did you know you can be doing things, taking action, that you don't post about? if only
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forkboy84 posted:
No, I've genuinely sulked and done nothing.
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