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the voy equinox episodes were quite interesting. usually the shows depict the starfleet as idealistic and righteous, but these kinds of episodes makes the organization and the people in it seem more realistic. ofc if some show followed only an immoral crew instead of the normal set, it would wouldn't be proper star trek, nor a good show
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infernal machines posted:They made Battlestar Galactica in 2004 and it was fine. We don't need to make it a third time with a Star Trek brand on it. been ages since i last watched it, and i can't remember much from it. but i don't recall it being particularly good. now that i think of it, it was quite voyager-like, but without the doctor and captain proton
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The BSG miniseries and a few select episodes were excellent but that show would never hold up if you tried to broadcast it today
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punishedkissinger posted:The BSG miniseries and a few select episodes were excellent but that show would never hold up if you tried to broadcast it today wasn't it very ham-handedly telling about the iraq war or something?
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ChubbyChecker posted:wasn't it very ham-handedly telling about the iraq war or something? It was an American made television show in the mid-2000s, so yes
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punishedkissinger posted:The BSG miniseries and a few select episodes were excellent but that show would never hold up if you tried to broadcast it today Exodus Part 2 is still one of the best episodes of action scifi I have ever seen. Just so good from start to finish.
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ChubbyChecker posted:wasn't it very ham-handedly telling about the iraq war or something? There was a minor plot arc where the humans were cast as In fact, a big part of the problem with the show was that it pretended to have something really interesting to say and a compelling mystery at the heart of it, but spoiler alert, it doesn't have either. It was willing to go a step grittier than other shows at the time, but it's quite pedestrian now. Taking it out of its cultural context, all that's left is a decent but not great scifi show that ends in a gigantic wet fart of a reveal. Seriously, it's right up there with Lost and Game of Thrones for dumbest final wrap-ups for shows that had really promising setups.
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sweet geek swag posted:Exodus Part 2 is still one of the best episodes of action scifi I have ever seen. Just so good from start to finish. loving Lee Adama making the dumbest move ever by wasting the Pegasus.
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It was an incredible example of mystery box writing, so while many individual episodes were pretty good, the show as a whole was considerably less than the sum of its parts*. It was also lovely people being lovely to each other, in space, which is why I referenced it in relation to a more "realistic" portrayal of Star Fleet *They had the gall to use the tagline "And they have a plan" for three seasons until even the writers had to admit that no, they did not.
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I loving hate Lee Adama and anyone like him
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Arcsquad12 posted:loving Lee Adama making the dumbest move ever by wasting the Pegasus. the only set they had for the pegasus was recycled from an aborted lost in space relaunch. they either had to spend a bunch of money making more sets or get rid of it, and they chose the latter.
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starfleet members loving The Alamo really cements my feeling that they are the bottom of the barrel of Federation citizens
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us history education is based on avoiding the topic of us history as much as possible.
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I get Obrien and Bashir wanting to fight the Battle of Britain, but being massacred for nothing more than a colonizing slave state????
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punishedkissinger posted:I get Obrien and Bashir wanting to fight the Battle of Britain, but being massacred for nothing more than a colonizing slave state???? wasn't that the first thing they did when they retook the station? why would you want to do that after a terrible battle? tens of thousands must have died when their ships exploded based on what we see onscreen at the least.
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obviously "the alamo" is actually incredibly hot gay sex in quark's virtual bath house
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Mulaney Power Move posted:obviously "the alamo" is actually incredibly hot gay sex in quark's virtual bath house Building an elaborate miniature model to gameplan my sex
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:you haven't lived unless you've hosed a holographic jim bowie with your best bud I read this as David Bowie and agreed. Also I’m sad Bowie never made a Trek appearance. At least we got Iggy Pop.
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bashir told odo they had a spitfire cockpit waiting for him if he ever wanted to join
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HD DAD posted:And then they’re all proven right in the episode where the inventor’s son is trapped in an eternal dimensionless half-existence wait what
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Mulaney Power Move posted:bashir told odo they had a spitfire cockpit waiting for him if he ever wanted to join Gotta be a spitfire you really don't want to swallow when Odo's involved
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alexandriao posted:wait what ENT season 4, “Daedalus”. It’s a good ep.
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punishedkissinger posted:I get Obrien and Bashir wanting to fight the Battle of Britain, but being massacred for nothing more than a colonizing slave state???? They probably don't even care very much about the centuries-old historical backdrop, they're just playing games. One of their favorites is a fiendishly hard tower defense, another is a super-fun combat flight sim. Like if you play a medieval war game, no one will give you poo poo for being the Plantagenets or whoever
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Powered Descent posted:Like if you play a medieval war game, no one will give you poo poo for being the Plantagenets or whoever Or playing Axis in RTCW
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infernal machines posted:Or playing Axis in RTCW Axis has the best tanks. That being said I will look at you askance if you're on of those guys who always plays Axis and has an iron cross as your avatar and a bunch of Rommel quotes in your profile.
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Worf specifically talks about how much of a badass Davie Crockett was. They clearly have some messed up politics
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Applewhite posted:Axis has the best tanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiLVAz-Jczg
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punishedkissinger posted:Worf specifically talks about how much of a badass Davie Crockett was. They clearly have some messed up politics I mean... thinking Davy Crockett is a badass is a majority opinion in the U.S. Most people don't really consider the historical context of the Alamo when they talk about it. This stuff is based on some flawed history, but I can't really blame the writers of DS9 for not knowing something the vast majority of Americans don't know.
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Powered Descent posted:They probably don't even care very much about the centuries-old historical backdrop, they're just playing games. One of their favorites is a fiendishly hard tower defense, another is a super-fun combat flight sim. But Sisko won’t cosplay Las Vegas because of systemic 20th century racism. Clearly conscientiousness is one of the things they look for in command level candidates.
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sweet geek swag posted:I mean... thinking Davy Crockett is a badass is a majority opinion in the U.S. Most people don't really consider the historical context of the Alamo when they talk about it. This stuff is based on some flawed history, but I can't really blame the writers of DS9 for not knowing something the vast majority of Americans don't know. It fits perfectly with the context of this episode though. O’brien and Bashir discuss the historical inaccuracies of Davy Crockett’s myth and Worf says that it doesn’t matter because the myth serves a greater purpose than the facts. Then that argument gets referred to later with Kor's last stand.
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It's always hilarious when they accidentally make Star Trek too smart for Star Trek fans.
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Automatic Slim posted:It fits perfectly with the context of this episode though. O’brien and Bashir discuss the historical inaccuracies of Davy Crockett’s myth and Worf says that it doesn’t matter because the myth serves a greater purpose than the facts. Then that argument gets referred to later with Kor's last stand. A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
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when you ennoble slavers via mythology then you eventually end up with hamilton. once again, worf is full of poo poo.
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heck, worf's entire problem with klingon culture is that he takes all the rhetoric and customs at face value instead of figuring out how things really work and why.
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Automatic Slim posted:It fits perfectly with the context of this episode though. O’brien and Bashir discuss the historical inaccuracies of Davy Crockett’s myth and Worf says that it doesn’t matter because the myth serves a greater purpose than the facts. Then that argument gets referred to later with Kor's last stand. This isn't really a commentary on the problematic aspects of Davy Crockett though. It's a commentary on the legendary aspect of Davy Crockett. They're saying "A lot of those tall tales about Davy Crocket weren't true," not "Davy Crockett was an imperialist who died defending slavery."
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Automatic Slim posted:But Sisko won’t cosplay Las Vegas because of systemic 20th century racism. Clearly conscientiousness is one of the things they look for in command level candidates. I always assumed he was more aware of this and more bothered by it because of Far Beyond The Stars.
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