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I wonder if the Chee ever take on roles that could alter the development of human society. Lourdes previous life is the highest profile one we've seen but her impact might have been limited to entertainment and pop culture. There's a chance that some Chee could have been leaders who led peoples through bad times or scientists who gave a bump to human technology. Then again, they might be happy just being janitors and such making sure things are going okay from behind the scenes. It's also possible that having a big influence on humanity could go against their pacifist programming, or they might have something like the prime directive in Star Trek.
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It also makes me wonder what their family dynamic is around the house, or how they got assigned or picked their "roles." Was there a Mrs King? Are Erek and his "dad" just good buds who like to live together? They are presumably scattered all over the world, and since the Yeerk invasion is concentrated in this one small part of America, was there an influx of Chee moving there recently to assist in the resistance effort?quote:“Tobias, get Ax and follow us,” Jake rapped. “Now!” This is perfectly fine author handwaving, but I was thinking as they left the mall that it's kinda funny they have no way of contacting two out of six team members at any given point, and presumably have to rely on regular check-ins. Like, imagine stumbling across a high stakes real-time mission like this, and Jake and Cassie and Rachel and Marco just have to deal with it, and meanwhile Tobias is just chilling on some thermals somewhere and Ax is eating some grass and idly watching clouds drift by.
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# ? Aug 14, 2021 08:54 |
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Epicurius posted:Chapter 6 Huh. I actually think I remember that scene with King sitting on the couch. Nothing else so far, though. Also, it seems really weird that they can still talk despite being paralyzed and unpowered. I couldn't figure out who was talking, at first, in the opening scene with Erek. Besides, creating a sound requires a vibration of some sort! dungeon cousin posted:I wonder if the Chee ever take on roles that could alter the development of human society. Lourdes previous life is the highest profile one we've seen but her impact might have been limited to entertainment and pop culture. There's a chance that some Chee could have been leaders who led peoples through bad times or scientists who gave a bump to human technology. Then again, they might be happy just being janitors and such making sure things are going okay from behind the scenes. It's also possible that having a big influence on humanity could go against their pacifist programming, or they might have something like the prime directive in Star Trek. Erek mentioned having taken on some important "secretary/stylist of [historical figure]" roles in his past lives in book 10.
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Fuschia tude posted:Huh. I actually think I remember that scene with King sitting on the couch. Nothing else so far, though. I have pretty vivied memories of the police raid, but I absolutly love multi-part-actions scenes, with several parties trying to accomplish opposing goals, resulting in complete chaos
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Fuschia tude posted:Huh. I actually think I remember that scene with King sitting on the couch. Nothing else so far, though. The thing that always stuck with me most about this book is Rachel's observation that you can be in a frightening situation, but the fear doesn't turn into true panic until after you break and run. edit - to be clear this situation hasn't come up yet, and we'll know it when it does
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quote:<You know, if my father finds out I’ve been hanging around criminals, I’ll be grounded for a year,> Marco joked as we flew toward the south side of town. This is a crackhouse, isn't it? Also, good on them for changing the channel for Erek and his "dad". Chapter 8 quote:“Down! Down!” Yea, it's a crackhouse. Also, do the Yeerks know about the Chee? I mean, if they see an advanced android, they're going to take it and study it. But are they aware of the Chee or the Pemalites as species? I don't think they do.
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# ? Aug 15, 2021 03:55 |
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Pretty sure the Yeerks don't know about the Pemalites or the Chee - the Pemalites had died and the Chee hidden on Earth thousands of years before the Yeerks got out into space.
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Piell posted:Pretty sure the Yeerks don't know about the Pemalites or the Chee - the Pemalites had died and the Chee hidden on Earth thousands of years before the Yeerks got out into space. What did they think the pemalite data thingy back in the first ten books was, then? I thought the yeerks knew, and had a pretty good idea of exactly what blendered that entire building. But i can't even remember that far back in this thread, let alone when i was 12.
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# ? Aug 15, 2021 04:45 |
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Yeah I assume they have some suspicion or vague idea.quote:“Oh, man, I don’t need a drink this bad!” quote:The blast blew over a bony girl smoking a cigarette. Lol, hello Scholastic censor
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# ? Aug 15, 2021 05:08 |
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Chapter 9quote:POW! The Scholastic censor has quit at this point and reconsidering their life. I'm also a little disappointed nobody shouted "Watch out! That bird's got a gun!" Chapter 10 quote:I blinked, too shocked to move. Ax's skunk saved the day. Well, Cassie is almost dead, and Rachel is almost blind, and Marco's not doing really good, but....
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Can you partially demorph to heal? Does that partially heal? Does that reset the clock, or do you have to go all the way?
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Fuschia tude posted:Can you partially demorph to heal? Does that partially heal? Does that reset the clock, or do you have to go all the way? I'm not sure about partially demorphing to heal, but Cassie is the only one who has enough control morphing to intentionally demorph something like a broken limb. I'm pretty sure partially demorphing doesn't reset the clock, though.
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I think you have to go all the way, since they've nearly got stuck in partial morphs in the past. Also I'm a big fan of the gang cracking out the lesser-used morphs in their arsenals, but it's quite odd that Ax arrived on the scene and thought "Hmm, I am going to morph... skunk."
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# ? Aug 16, 2021 05:17 |
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quote:“Don’t worry about them right now! We’ve got Animal Control and some vet from The Gardens’ wildlife park coming down. Let them deal with it! Just stay back!” The Undisclosed PD is sick of these animal highjinks and they're having no part of it.
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# ? Aug 16, 2021 05:33 |
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The animal hijinks make me nervous that the Yeerks will eventually realize that having a veterinarian who knows exotic animals would be a good person to infect.
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# ? Aug 16, 2021 06:17 |
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Epicurius posted:Chapter 9
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OctaviusBeaver posted:The Undisclosed PD is sick of these animal highjinks and they're having no part of it. Undisclosed PD issuing new police report forms to their officers with a tick box for "Exotic Animal Encounter Yes/No"
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Chapter 11quote:<The heck with running for the railroad tracks,> I yelled, plowing a swath through the floor toward the front door. <Hang on tight, guys, because we’re outta here!> Well, so much for Rachel, everybody. Good book. I think it's a rule that if you're narrating the book, your chance to almost die goes up like crazy. Chapter 12 quote:We were a shaken-up bunch of animal-morphing freaks by the time we at last made it home. Asituation that should have been a walk in the park had turned into a mess. Have YOU seen or read Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea? Do YOU know the solution? Do Andalites have frats? More seriously, do you think Jake does hold Rachel to a different standard than he does the rest of the team? The rest of them are allowed to show doubts or be nervous, but when Rachel does it, he jumps on her.
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# ? Aug 17, 2021 03:40 |
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Epicurius posted:“Hello!” Cassie cried suddenly. “That’s it! Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea! Hah! I think we may have a solution!” Conflating two different Jules Verne titles? Jesus, Cassie, get it together. There's a war on.
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I've been thinking about other YA books from this period- specifically, the ones about Kids Dealing With The Big Issues. There were always plenty in the school library, and my aunt insisted on buying them. And while I'm sure they were very well-written and well-intentioned, Young Me much preferred to read the Lord of the Rings appendices after a tough day at school... I guess the question is, did anyone actually read those books?
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Epicurius posted:Chapter 12 quote:Have YOU seen or read Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea? Do YOU know the solution? Do Andalites have frats? I know giant squids are typically deep. Crustaceans too; aren't crabs like living submarines?
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There is a very cool (and frankly creepy) little website here where you keep scrolling down and it shows you all the different species that live deeper in the ocean: https://neal.fun/deep-sea/
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Fuschia tude posted:Ax never learned English, his technology translates, the same way the Andalite cube gives thought-speech, right? So why wouldn't it be able to translate Japanese? It probably could, if it had heard enough Japanese.
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freebooter posted:There is a very cool (and frankly creepy) little website here where you keep scrolling down and it shows you all the different species that live deeper in the ocean: I'd seen this link before but never fully scrolled on it. Thanks, it was horrifying! I especially didn't like knowing how deep some seals dive.
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Fuschia tude posted:I know giant squids are typically deep. Crustaceans too; aren't crabs like living submarines? My first thought is a whale. Depending on where they're at in California, whale-watching tours could be a thing.
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Thought speak operates on Star Trek translator rules, it translates everything into English but knows when you want to leave something untranslated through space magic.
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Malpais Legate posted:I'd seen this link before but never fully scrolled on it. Thanks, it was horrifying! I especially didn't like knowing how deep some seals dive. Yeah - there's been one fatal attack on a human by a leopard seal, when a British scientist was snorkelling in Antarctica, and the most disturbing part about it was that when they recovered her body, her dive computer showed the seal had at times dragged her down to 70m deep. Chump change compared to some seal depths but still so, so horrifying for a human.
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quote:Wasn’t it Journey to the Bottom of the Sea?” Marco asked. So, just to straighten everything out, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is a Jules Verne book. There are giant squid in that one. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea is a 1961 American thriller about an experimental nuclear submarine that basically has to save the world from being destroyed. There's also a religious fanatic on the ship (played by Joan Fontaine) who tries to sabotage the mission because she thinks the earth's destruction is God's will. There's also a giant squid fight in that one. Then it was turned into a TV show that ran from 1964-68, made by Irwin Allen, the same guy who made Lost In Space, The Time Tunnel, and Land of the Giants. Chapter 14 quote:My neighborhood looked normal. Right, have you noticed these coincidences seem very....coincidental?
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quote:“This is the last weekend I have to prepare this case and I’d appreciate your cooperation.” Marriott Hotel employees vs the United States (class action) for emotional trauma caused during elephant attack on resort during G7 conference
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freebooter posted:Marriott Hotel employees vs the United States (class action) for emotional trauma caused during elephant attack on resort during G7 conference Rachel's mother branches out into the emerging, surprisingly profitable field of Gorilla-Induced Trauma compensation.
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Tree Bucket posted:Rachel's mother branches out into the emerging, surprisingly profitable field of Gorilla-Induced Trauma compensation. The firm has a landscape painting of a Western mountainside with a grizzly bear above the secretary's desk and can't understand why so many clients keep having panic attacks when they walk in
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"Have you or a loved one been shot by a hawk or have been the victim of a sudden and unexpected limb amputation? Do you need compensation for your injuries?"
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Do the human controllers all go to a secret Yeerk medical center or is the local hospital just really concerned about all the animal attack patients they keep seeing?
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"What's this? Another patient with skunk poisoning and minor bear-related disembowelling? And they want "a gate pass for an urgent work meeting and/or grandmother's funeral every three days" too?"
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Oh yeah, I definitely remember this snail bit. Somehow the Ax eating details stand out.
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Chapter 15quote:I went around the back of the house and slid into the shadows between the hedges and the fence. Pulled off my running shoes, jacket, and jeans. Concentrated on my bald eagle morph. The Yeerks obviously can't make a sperm whale beach itself, as mentioned, But the idea that the Yeerks think the Sperm Whale is actually an Animorph doesn't make sense either. Sure, you don't expect to see a beached sperm whale, but why would an Andalite bandit beach himself? Chapter 16 quote:It wasn’t a long flight in a straight line. But we couldn’t fly in a straight line. We’d have been a whole sky full of raptors flying in formation. Slightly conspicuous. There's a lot of Jake-Rachel tension in this book. Also, two things spring to mind. First, I think Ax is a funny guy. I don't care what anyone says. Also, I get that the Pemalites were probably overtrusting and had really bad password/infosec, but they seem like they'd be a fun species to hang out with.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 03:16 |
6 is probably better than guest or password tbh
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Humans hang out with pemalites all the time, dogs are dope
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quote:It wasn’t a long flight in a straight line. But we couldn’t fly in a straight line. We’d have been a whole sky full of raptors flying in formation. Slightly conspicuous. I never understood why they didn't get geese morphs or something for long range trips. They have endurance (Tobias even comments on it) and fly in formation. Also, this chapter is good. Good character interaction for Rachel and Jake, and of course Rachel and Tobias.
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HisMajestyBOB posted:I never understood why they didn't get geese morphs or something for long range trips. They have endurance (Tobias even comments on it) and fly in formation. Even Tobias could use some bird morphs for things like this. He could morph mid-air and probably no one on the ground would ever notice.
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