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Animal-Mother posted:Yes, it's strange that they're so much more angry about masks than they've been about vaccines. I suppose it's because you can tell who's not wearing a mask but you can't know for sure if someone isn't vaccinated. But the level of vitriol is something else. Anecdotally, I know some people who got vaccinated and are pretty pissed about renewed mask mandates because they feel like they did the right thing already and have minimal risk now and think it's bullshit that they have to wear masks because some morons didn't get vaccinated. And some governments seem to be prioritizing masks over vaccines, as when DC gyms asked the city if they could require vaccination instead of masks and the city said no.
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I got my first shot this week and I've had a weird stabbing pain in my left temple ever since.. it feels like a very thin needle is lightly pressing into the skin, it doesn't hurt but it does almost feel like a mosquito is biting me almost. Is that my 5g chip embedding itself into my brain? Seriously though its a really weird feeling and the only side effect I've had aside from injection site soreness.
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Constipated posted:I got my first shot this week and I've had a weird stabbing pain in my left temple ever since.. it feels like a very thin needle is lightly pressing into the skin, it doesn't hurt but it does almost feel like a mosquito is biting me almost. Is that my 5g chip embedding itself into my brain? They were supposed to put it in your arm.
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Aug 15, 2021 16:50
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Reddit asks ”What is the science behind Fomite transmission and Covid-19?” I link this not because it got any particularly insightful answer, but because respondents confirm that many of them are still washing their groceries or were right up till they got the vaccine. The public remains misinformed. Lots of people are trying their best. They’ve just never been told, in so many words, that they should stop washing their pizzas and get better respiratory protection.
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Aug 15, 2021 17:31
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Platystemon posted:Reddit asks ”What is the science behind Fomite transmission and Covid-19?” We've hashed out the fomite debate before, and to my knowledge the outcome is the same: the possibility remains poorly studied, and if someone feels safer by wiping down a box of pasta with a bit of alcohol I'm not going to waste my time giving them any guff over it.
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Aug 15, 2021 17:39
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yook posted:Are you sure you’re not confusing it with the BLM protests? I thought they back traced a ton of COVID spread to last year’s Sturgis rally and the first couple google hits refer to it as a super spreader event. I saw one news report claiming they tracked just one covid-death to Sturgis'2020. I did not do any searches. Yeah BLM is another outside mass gathering I have not seen linked to covid breakouts, in addition to lollapalooza and sturgis. Still, like one poster mentioned, you aint gonna pick up cases if you aint tracking and tracing cases.
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QuarkJets posted:We've hashed out the fomite debate before, and to my knowledge the outcome is the same: the possibility remains poorly studied, and if someone feels safer by wiping down a box of pasta with a bit of alcohol I'm not going to waste my time giving them any guff over it. The point isn’t “these folks are morons for soaping up their fruit and veg”, it’s “Look, they’re not throwing in the towel and brunching. They are willing to go out of their way to protect themselves. Why don’t public health authorities guide them in the right direction?”
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Platystemon posted:Why don’t public health authorities guide them in the right direction?” they all keep resigning or getting fired because people are terrible
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Platystemon posted:Reddit asks ”What is the science behind Fomite transmission and Covid-19?” Did you see the videos of the people licking things at the grocery store? I’ll never stop at least spraying things I bring home, and leaving them a day or two in their bag before eating There’s things other than covid
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Platystemon posted:The point isn’t “these folks are morons for soaping up their fruit and veg”, it’s “Look, they’re not throwing in the towel and brunching. They are willing to go out of their way to protect themselves. Why don’t public health authorities guide them in the right direction?” That point assumes that they're disinfecting groceries in lieu of proper masking and social distancing, which I don't think is accurate.
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asdf32 posted:Low doesn’t mean zero but means in the ballpark of other risks we’ve long tolerated. People pushing “kids are fine, actually!” narratives tend to gently caress up things like infection vs case fatality rate (because science journalism in general is dreadful), or they’re despicable hacks like Emily Oster who both have no expertise in the subject matter AND are funded by far-right billionaires (her Covid info project is funded by the Koch brother And yeah, there’s lots of benefits to education and socialization. Unfortunately, the powers that be don’t seem to care about ensuring that children can get these benefits in a safe way, or at least an as-safe-as-possible way.
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asdf32 posted:I’m also a parent (5 and 2). Covid risk for kids continues to be extremely low especially in high vaccine areas. And school/preschool/daycare is extremely important if your kid is older than 2-3. https://twitter.com/DanielGriffinMD/status/1426750611572371473 This number, like all of the other numbers, is growing exponentially. I understand that the situation is better in states with high vaccination rates but we've decided that daycare just isn't worth the risk right now
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Aug 15, 2021 19:02
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Zugzwang posted:Notttt really. Long Covid is much more likely than the majority of risks we tolerate for children. And “all the research” wasn’t done factoring in the delta variant, which is both massively more infectious than prior strains and appears to be worse for kids. You're replying to a dumbshit who got thread banned from the D&D covid thread for repeatedly saying kids can't get COVID and RSV is the real killer while failing to ever provide any supporting evidence, just fyi before you waste any more effort.
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:gently caress these monsters. Make masks mandatory, and duck tape it to their loving faces. Staple. Or better yet, just put them in prison or on some deserted loving island or something because people who laugh at attempts to comfort children who have lost a parent have no place in a civilized society.
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Psh I was a shut in kid and hardly socialized and look how great I turned out 
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Since we're talking about kids, I want to quote this post from the D&D thread-Blackadder- posted:Here's a good twitter thread if you want to see how the dominoes are about to fall in the U.S. when schools open. It also contains references to a good amount of data, including a modeling project on in-school mitigation strategies, which might be something like what you're looking for. That twitter thread is very informative. When you look at pediatric hospitalizations with the delta variant, and the current state of pediatric ICUs, it paints a grim picture. And some school districts are stuck between a rock and a hard place; administrators have to choose between letting a bunch of additional kids die or be on the receiving end of death threats and violence from crazed trump cultists
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Y'all are talking about individual behaviors but not the hygiene theater of Applebee's having commercials for over a year that "we have enhanced cleaning protocols" as though the average viewer is checking new NIH studies every month and making informed decisions. By all means, wash your fruit, disinfect your surfaces, we probably could have been doing more of it to begin with. But letting people believe fomite transmission is more than insignificant has obfuscated the issue of what we need to do to stop transmission.
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Zugzwang posted:Notttt really. Long Covid is much more likely than the majority of risks we tolerate for children. And “all the research” wasn’t done factoring in the delta variant, which is both massively more infectious than prior strains and appears to be worse for kids. You might want to read more about long covid. It’s a group of mostly mild symptoms lasting usually between 4-8 weeks. The vast majority of kids who have long covid symptoms lose them by 8 weeks. It’s not about covid being no big deal. Lots of things are a big deal. My son was in intensive care for rsv and got sick so many times from 8-10 months with stomach bugs, hand foot mouth and colds that he lost weight. Those are big deals. But so is school and socialization. A few links on the subject in general. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/07/28/us/covid-schools-at-home-learning-study.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/10/opinion/covid-schools-masks.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...cdc-11628432716 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) asdf32 fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 15, 2021 |
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Platystemon posted:Reddit asks ”What is the science behind Fomite transmission and Covid-19?” fomite fornite fortnite Fortnite 1v1 me at Twisted Towers bitch
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AHH F/UGH posted:fomite Gonna twist your nipples u nerd
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asdf32 posted:You might want to read more about long covid. It’s a group of mostly mild symptoms lasting usually between 4-8 weeks. The vast majority of kids who have long covid symptoms lose them by 8 weeks. So it's kinda like the other vaccines that cause autism. On one hand, your kid could get the tism from the shots. On the other hand, he could get measles and die. So it's a YOLO thing, righto. That was sarcasm, I am not anti-vax, but seriously goon, you're like the loving mayor who is told the beach needs to be closed because jellyfish are swarming and their sting can be fatal and your reply is "but it's summer and people love the beach and need to be on the beach!"
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Just found out my very chudly relatives from Florida are flying up to visit family next month and my mom is very strongly hinting at her wanting me to be there. My grandma is not doing well and it's entirely possible this might be the last time I get the opportunity to see her but they're all like fox news watching diehard chuds and I haven't asked but I'm almost certain they aren't vaccinated. And who knows where Florida cases will be a month from now. I just know this is going to be a "well the whole family is here..." type things and ugh man gently caress..
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this but u have to edit out the gas mask
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explosivo posted:Just found out my very chudly relatives from Florida are flying up to visit family next month and my mom is very strongly hinting at her wanting me to be there. My grandma is not doing well and it's entirely possible this might be the last time I get the opportunity to see her but they're all like fox news watching diehard chuds and I haven't asked but I'm almost certain they aren't vaccinated. And who knows where Florida cases will be a month from now. I just know this is going to be a "well the whole family is here..." type things and ugh man gently caress.. My family lives literally 5 minutes from me and my Dad is refusing to let me even go in their house Tell them they can call you
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explosivo posted:Just found out my very chudly relatives from Florida are flying up to visit family next month and my mom is very strongly hinting at her wanting me to be there. My grandma is not doing well and it's entirely possible this might be the last time I get the opportunity to see her but they're all like fox news watching diehard chuds and I haven't asked but I'm almost certain they aren't vaccinated. And who knows where Florida cases will be a month from now. I just know this is going to be a "well the whole family is here..." type things and ugh man gently caress..
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Cowslips Warren posted:So it's kinda like the other vaccines that cause autism. On one hand, your kid could get the tism from the shots. On the other hand, he could get measles and die. So it's a YOLO thing, righto. Vitamin D deficiency is a big deal, maybe even worse than death. If we don't open the beach then we're just letting the jellyfish win
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asdf32 posted:You might want to read more about long covid. It’s a group of mostly mild symptoms lasting usually between 4-8 weeks. The vast majority of kids who have long covid symptoms lose them by 8 weeks. The articles you linked all do not factor in delta. This is something most people, including the CDC (albeit for gross incompetence/political reasons in the latter case), are still denialists about. Over the course of wild type -> alpha -> delta, Covid went from “really contagious” to “really really contagious” to “transmissible outdoors through not especially long interactions.” Was the research you’re looking at done in the US pre-June or so? Then it’s dubious now. I mean geez, how can you post articles saying “schools are safe” when there are innumerable reports already of school districts that have to close after just days of going Open Biden because a gazillion kids/staff are popping fevers and testing positive? Meanwhile the hospitals are filling up, and the people getting sick won’t be able to get beds. Good times! Notorious R.I.M. posted:You're replying to a dumbshit who got thread banned from the D&D covid thread for repeatedly saying kids can't get COVID and RSV is the real killer while failing to ever provide any supporting evidence, just fyi before you waste any more effort. 
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AHH F/UGH posted:I have a friend who will smile goofily as he visibly struggles to hide his shallow coughs as if nothing is wrong and he doesn’t obviously have long Covid lung damage Long COVID brain damage perhaps ? 
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I went into a menchie's yesteday because I haven't seen one around in ages and I love their stupid yogurt. There were four tables of unmasked people eating in the tiny room and nobody working there had a mask on. The lady who checked me out said 'maybe I should be wearing a mask, the last time I got covid it took me two and a half months to recover' and she was 27 years old. She's scared of the vaccine because of stories her friends told her. She's the average American and why we're swimming in covid. I talked to her about my vaccine experience and told her I knew she could do it because she was awesome and I hope she loving does.
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AHH F/UGH posted:I have a friend who will smile goofily as he visibly struggles to hide his shallow coughs as if nothing is wrong and he doesn’t obviously have long Covid lung damage https://i.imgur.com/PekrP94.mp4 
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One guy know got the vaccine, first dose, and he got infected and apparently has been fighting death for 2 months Now people around him believe the vaccine caused that lol. Not good PR I saw him a few days after his vaccine and he was fine, so yeah, prooobably not the vax, must’ve dropped precautions Also I got my 2 doses and I know the same people, but nobody pays attention to me
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Nature is healing. We are the virus.
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asdf32 posted:You might want to read more about long covid. It’s a group of mostly mild symptoms lasting usually between 4-8 weeks. The vast majority of kids who have long covid symptoms lose them by 8 weeks. You might want to read more about shutting the gently caress up
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asdf32 posted:You might want to read more about long covid. It’s a group of mostly mild symptoms lasting usually between 4-8 weeks. The vast majority of kids who have long covid symptoms lose them by 8 weeks. My neighbor wakes up in pain every night for 30-60 minutes. She said it feels like she's on fire. Her entire nervous system is shot because of COVID. She was training for a marathon and now she can't go up the stairs without getting winded. Thankfully, my long COVID symptoms only lasted a few months. My big ones were my feet randomly going numb and then the 102 degree fevers that popped up out of nowhere for a day or two. Id usually have a out a 5 minute warning which gave me just enough time to get to the parking lot before I'd feel so bad that I'd contemplate paying for an Uber so my roommate could come to my office and drive me home. Oh, and the loss of smell and taste isn't cute because when it came back it made everything taste and smell like an ashtray of vomit. I've been popping multivitamins and drinking meal replacement shakes because hitting 1800 calories is a struggle when all food makes you nauseous. I guess i got that summer bod the easy way! But hey, it's just a few weeks of mild symptoms. I read it in a wall street journal article that advertises dick pills right next to the doctor's words. Edit: both my neighbor and I got COVID in December
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ben shapino posted:You might want to read more about shutting the gently caress up
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asdf32 posted:You might want to read more about long covid. It’s a group of mostly mild symptoms lasting usually between 4-8 weeks. The vast majority of kids who have long covid symptoms lose them by 8 weeks. What's your end game here? I can't believe you actually believe what you're peddling, not earnestly nor honestly. School and socialization for your child are not worth the risk to the general public, let alone the risk you take gambling that your kid won't get too sick, or that lasting effects won't appear down the road from getting sick with a virus that has not interacted with humans before. Frankly as a society it is worth your kid getting stunted socially and losing out on some education to keep kids from catching and spreading a disease that's killing people. Like, we're talking a couple of years of development for a population of children versus the lives of children, adults, and elders.
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