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infernal machines posted:He is a difficult subject to photograph He looks like an evil, bargain bin Colin Mochrie.
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Aug 16, 2021 18:46
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Doctor posted:He looks like an evil, bargain bin Colin Mochrie. Or a pre-Island John Locke, the one who was an absolute loser goober.
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Aug 16, 2021 18:50
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Oxyclean posted:Beat me too it lol. "Allow me to niqab COVID-19"
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Aug 16, 2021 19:40
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I see that the Conservative Platform just straight up scraps the Childcare plan in favor of a refundable tax credit of the existing Childcare deduction.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:16
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You know what's completely useless to people who don't make money?
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Aug 16, 2021 20:24
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infernal machines posted:You know what's completely useless to people who don't make money? The Conservative Party of Canada.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:26
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AegisP posted:I see that the Conservative Platform just straight up scraps the Childcare plan in favor of a refundable tax credit of the existing Childcare deduction. Lmao such a dumb move that will absolutely just piss off anyone who had to have their kids home with them this pandemic and was excited for actual cheap child care
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Aug 16, 2021 20:26
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tagesschau posted:The Conservative Party of Canada. 
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Aug 16, 2021 20:27
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I've never in my life seen vehicles with pro-oil and gas bumper stickers in Victoria, but with the fires and albertan tourists I'm seeing them now. Something ironic and infuriating about people who deny climate change fleeing to a "leftist" city to escape the symptoms climate change.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:30
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Wait, so that 14 words slogan with the letters docking into a weird limp swastika is real? Like not a lazy in the nose joke? Great.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:40
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Oxyclean posted:Like an knock-off Mr Clean Well, he does want to help things be their whitest
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Aug 16, 2021 20:43
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Cocaine Bear posted:Wait, so that 14 words slogan with the letters docking into a weird limp swastika is real? Like not a lazy in the nose joke? Motherfucker has his dog whistle tuned to 1.5kHz at 80dB.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:57
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B33rChiller posted:Motherfucker has his dog whistle tuned to 1488kHz at 88dB.
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Aug 16, 2021 21:02
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Cocaine Bear posted:Wait, so that 14 words slogan with the letters docking into a weird limp swastika is real? Like not a lazy in the nose joke? But the Conservative Party is NOT a regressive culture war party. Absolutely not, why would you even possibly begin to think that?
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Aug 16, 2021 21:24
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Cocaine Bear posted:Wait, so that 14 words slogan with the letters docking into a weird limp swastika is real? Like not a lazy in the nose joke? Serious question (not having read much of the documentation from them yet): What is the "UR" thing in "Secure the Future" supposedly represent? I see a limp swastika. Is it supposed to be a paperclip? Is it supposed to be a tap sitting in an empty sink? Is it just incompetent design filling whitespace beside "Secure"? Have they explained it at all (yes, I get the "it's a limp swastika!" thing -- but I don't think they've actually said that out loud)? I think I understand why the maple leaf tilts to the right in the "C" though. I get that. I mean, seriously, I think I've parsed some of the semiotics from some of David Lynch's more confusing films but I don't understand this loving symbol in the slogan.
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Aug 16, 2021 21:43
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I have no idea where y'all are getting "a limp swastika" from an interlocking U and N, which are likely meant to represent chain links, but you should probably get your brains checked. I'm serious, if you're seeing swastikas hidden in everything you need to talk to your doctor and likely get a referral to a psychiatrist. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 21:47
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InfiniteZero posted:Serious question (not having read much of the documentation from them yet): It looks like it's trying to be either a lock or chain. Judging from the overall work from the Graphic Designer they have, it may indeed just be a bored graphic designer trying to do something visually catchy because they want something portfolio "creative" Source: I'm a Graphic Designer, everybody is always talking about their portfolio. Additionally, the magazine poster is v. for the portfolio! type material. Syfe fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 21:47
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infernal machines posted:I have no idea where y'all are getting "a limp swastika" from an interlocking U and N, which are likely meant to represent chain links, but you should probably get your brains checked. I didn't want to say anything but I've been staring at this like a magic eye puzzle and I don't see a swastika.
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Aug 16, 2021 21:58
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infernal machines posted:I have no idea where y'all are getting "a limp swastika" from an interlocking U and N, which are likely meant to represent chain links, but you should probably get your brains checked. I think it's a lock, like Syfe suggested: that would tie in with the "Secure" theme, so I'm not sure if you were getting it right either?
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Aug 16, 2021 22:00
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tagesschau posted:You do apparently have to know the name of the candidate. You can't just write "Monster Raving Loony Party" and expect Elections Canada to translate that to a candidate. The current NS election mail ballot had a list of parties plus a blank slot to write in a candidate. Agreed you probably shouldn’t write in a party name though, and idk if the Federal ballot prints party names.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:04
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InfiniteZero posted:I think it's a lock, like Syfe suggested: that would tie in with the "Secure" theme, so I'm not sure if you were getting it right either? It could also be a lock, frankly it doesn't matter much. It is not a swastika or anything like a swastika is my point. There's no need to go digging for Nazi symbology and white power coding in CPC ads. They suck out loud enough without having to try to make everything Nazi adjacent too. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 22:14
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Did they get the same graphic designer as the Maclean's Magazine? also lol 
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Aug 16, 2021 22:26
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pokeyman posted:idk if the Federal ballot prints party names It doesn't. It's literally a slip of paper with a space to write the candidate's name.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:32
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Something something Godwins law... All Nazis are fascist/authoritarian, but not necessarily the other way around
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Aug 16, 2021 22:36
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infernal machines posted:It could also be a lock, frankly it doesn't matter much. It is not a swastika or anything like a swastika is my point. There's no need to go digging for Nazi symbology and white power coding in CPC ads. They suck out loud enough without having to try to make everything Nazi adjacent too. One does not need to look any further than that to see the blatant white supremacist signaling.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:39
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Hexigrammus posted:I think the brainworms might be getting me and I'm a little sympathetic to those who are concerned about a vaccine that hasn't completed the full approval process. The vaccines have completed the full approval process though. Disclaimer: I'm talking about the FDA here, because nobody in drug development really cares about Health Canada’s process (they basically just worry about the FDA and then give the same data to Health Canada). The FDA approval process isn't something that's set in stone. It can vary greatly depending on the need for the drug and how effective it is at treating whatever it's supposed to treat. For diseases where the drug is very effective and the alternative to getting it can be death (i.e. the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines), the FDA can fast-track the approvals process by basically bumping it to the front of the review queue and holding more frequent review meetings with the drug manufacturer. They also created a super-accelerated approval process to get COVID-19 drugs to patients as quickly as possible because the need is so great. Basically the only thing that the COVID-19 vaccines haven't passed yet is long-term safety, but no new drug will have long-term safety data by this point. The vaccines are extremely effective at stopping people from dying of COVID-19 in the short term though, so they're approved based on that.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:40
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"They aren't real Nazis unless they've physically invaded Poland, so saying that they are is without merit!"
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Aug 16, 2021 22:48
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B33rChiller posted:The loud dog whistle right in the middle of the human hearing range was the mailer and slogan about "Securing the future". hot cocoa on the couch posted:Something something Godwins law... Yeah, that's the thing. There's plenty of commonality with the language used by conservatives, fascists, and white supremacists without them all being identical ideologies. Broadly, it probably doesn't matter beyond the fact that you sound like an absolute loon to anyone who isn't terminally online when you say that otherwise innocuous Conservative propaganda is actually invoking Nazism. The notion of securing things does in fact exist outside of white power slogans, suggested images of a chain or a lock are in line with that. OTOH if you truly believe they're winking and nudging the Nazis, I guess it's your duty to call it as you see it. Bleck posted:"They aren't real Nazis unless they've physically invaded Poland, so saying that they are is without merit!" I'm not one to split hairs over weather the SS Galizien were literally Nazis (they were), but there is a point at which you're no longer conveying anything meaningful with the term. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 22:49
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I figured they were bringing the chuds back into the fold after Bernier imploded last time.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:53
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Bleck posted:"They aren't real Nazis unless they've physically invaded Poland, so saying that they are is without merit!" not every one of your ideological opponents is a nazi, this sounds like the american right calling anyone who disagrees with them a commie
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Aug 16, 2021 22:55
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Whether any given con is goosestepping around in his spare time seems sort of besides the point. How likely to people think it is that that slogan went through mulitple layers of review and approval without at least one person, in the party that has Rebel media contributors in it, saw it and picked up the reference, but let it slide. I can absolutely believe the O'Toole is too much of a sheltered, priviledged dumbass to know it, but not the entire party brass.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:56
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UnknownMercenary posted:I figured they were bringing the chuds back into the fold after Bernier imploded last time. IDK, maybe, OTOH sniffing out swastikas in mediocre graphic design just seems desperate. The CPC sucks because they are entirely willing to embrace bigotry, and everything they claim to want to do will have real negative consequences for the most vulnerable Canadians. They don't also have to be cartoon villains for this to be true. Beelzebufo posted:I can absolutely believe the O'Toole is too much of a sheltered, priviledged dumbass to know it, but not the entire party brass. Yeah, but again, it's plausibly deniable and otherwise innocuous while being on brand for conservatism in general. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 22:58
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McGavin posted:The vaccines have completed the full approval process though. Well... technically no. But not in a way people should really care about. They're under EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) which is by nature, temporary. The guidance for COVID vaccine EUA was such that there weren't really any shortcuts taken ( other than the minimum of two months follow-up vs. typically six, which to be honest, the vast majority of vaccine reactions happen in that two month time frame) . They still largely required essentially the same safety and efficacy data it was just a lot easier to get that data because literally unlimited money was available and the disease was raging everywhere (it's a lot easier to test a vaccine for efficacy when you can just shove it in 10,000 people in Brazil when there's a raging epidemic vs. waiting for whenever the hell the next say, Ebola outbreak is). That being said the companies do still need to apply for regular approval, otherwise when the emergency the EUA was approved for dies down, the EUA is yanked and then yeah it wouldn't be able to be used. IIRC the full review is a bit more comprehensive on some data like manufacturing and labelling, and the minimum of two months of follow-up data of the EUA is replaced with minimum six months. Which they'll have now and why they started rolling review for their full application a couple months ago. Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 22:59
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Sorry, I gotta get my brain checked out. Can't think of why I thought about Nazi poo poo when I read that slogan. I'll report back when the doc fixes me.
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Aug 16, 2021 23:05
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infernal machines posted:The CPC sucks because they are entirely willing to embrace bigotry, and everything they claim to want to do will have real negative consequences for the most vulnerable Canadians. They don't also have to be cartoon villains for this to be true. I don't know how to tell you this, but the Nazis were, like, real,
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Aug 16, 2021 23:06
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Bleck posted:I don't know how to tell you this, but the Nazis were, like, real, Yes, the were and are, and it's why calling everyone Nazis when sometimes they're not isn't good.
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Aug 16, 2021 23:11
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Is there a specific thing that the fascists need to do before pejoratively calling them Nazis becomes acceptable, or should I just only refer to fascists as fascists and then have other neolib nitpicks talk down to me about how "well, technically, that's not fascism, you see, because," (to be clear I don't see the limp swastika thing but I think getting all up in arms in defense of the poor Nazis is peak neolib poo poo)
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Aug 16, 2021 23:15
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IDK, it depends on whether words have meanings or if all language is interchangeable, I guess. Again, you can do whatever you like, and if what you like is calling everyone in the CPC a Nazi then fill your boots. Anyone who isn't so plugged in to the online discourse will think you're a hyperbolic nut, but if you don't care then that doesn't matter. It is possible to not use Nazi as a shorthand for "A terrible person with regressive, hateful politics" and save it for those who embrace the tenets of national socialism, of which there are many even today. But you can also use it that way if you don't care if anyone outside your circle listens to anything you have to say on the subject. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 23:17
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I think they'll be fine, actually, but then again I know people who aren't white? I guess?
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Aug 16, 2021 23:22
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Bleck posted:Is there a specific thing that the fascists need to do before pejoratively calling them Nazis becomes acceptable, or should I just only refer to fascists as fascists and then have other neolib nitpicks talk down to me about how "well, technically, that's not fascism, you see, because," Call fascist policies fascist. Call people that wear or wave swastikas and/or are calling for genocide, Nazis. Anyone that disagrees you can ignore.
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Aug 16, 2021 23:31
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