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U-DO Burger posted:gassing the old thread was a mistake, now it has that awful green background when i look at old posts but we can finally read the mad jackal posts the way they were meant to be read
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meet girls at the store posted:My office Open Bidened at 8:00 this morning with a celebratory staff breakfast. It’s now 11:39, somebody has tested positive, and they’re scrambling to do contact tracing for the breakfast party. Life comes at you fast.
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posting through the collapse of the US ftw
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Differentiating between good and bad bagels is the stupidest thing. Literally arguing over which slice of bread is the best. Or which variant is more fun.
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https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1427342828921769998?s=19 we regret to inform you max titers is a zionist
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Shear Modulus posted:trump
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OP: adult masks kids masks booster info spreadsheet coldrice gifs the shaming of the jackal
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silicone thrills posted:someone should really put the respirator and mask buying guides and links in the OP for real tho since like every time a new person pops in thats the first thing that usually gets asked. Also the covid data spreadsheet link. - this one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Ss6gA8ULL-2gxh4tWy12gFjTB078ba2KuxeqI9yz70/edit#gid=0
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we don't post trump here. this is when we post "open Biden"
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Chuka Umana posted:I'm gay we know
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Teacher friend who started classes last week has their first coworker death over the weekend. Didn't even make it one full week in.
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The Saucer Hovers posted:OP: pics of selected booster names
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For the OP: ======================= What we know so far (16 August 2021) Covid is airborne and spread through respiratory exhalations. The Delta variant has been proven to be able to be transmitted outdoors in less than a second's contact. [data, words & details] Unmasked, aersolized (>4um) droplets take about 12 feet to hit the ground if they aren't suspended in the air. [source---from the study that gave us "6 feet for social distancing" from like the 1960s or whatever] Surgical masks are about 40% effective at blocking exhaled aerosols. Well-fit N95s, 95%. Well-fit respirators, 100%. [maybe a link to youtubes?] Some coverings like bandanas may actively worsen exhalations (decrease droplet size) while filtering nothing [maybe a link to youtubes?] Vaccinated people can catch the virus. They have a lower chance of catching the virus, but once it is caught, while the chance of severe symptoms is decreased, the CFR is the same as unvaccinated. [source] Vaccinated people are as contagious as unvaccinated people whether symptomatic or asymptomatic. [source, details] Children can catch the virus as easily as adults. The apparent lower infection rates last year were due to lack of testing of children + reduction in typical means of social contact [source, details] Children are as contagious as adults. [source, details] Long Covid is a real and concerning consequence of this disease. It especially attacks the heart, brain, and reproductive organs. [source, details] Children are significantly more prone to Long Covid than adults [source, details] ======================= What am I missing? What do I have wrong or in accurately stated? Sunny Side Up fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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COVID is over. Please include this in the OP.
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also add youtuber Aaron Collins to one of the op https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A88AGnN-nwI Here's all the masks he tests and sources on where to buy https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1i06OAItoOwIUaMjElr8mhh0Rw-it6WL-ODIQMZUOQxE/htmlview
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Jaxyon posted:Teacher friend who started classes last week has their first coworker death over the weekend.
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New thread means new possibilities, what's going to happen next?!? Oh right the child deaths and people screaming "how could we have known?!"
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Jaxyon posted:Teacher friend who started classes last week has their first coworker death over the weekend. jesus did they get sick just in the last week too?
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I wish I had one of those Death Note books from the hit anime series
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im posting here now it's not aplaceholder any more now that im here
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The old thread gave me anxiety. The new thread will bring me peace and prosperity.
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Jon Irenicus posted:we don't post trump here. this is when we post "open Biden" 
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gotta get a strong lead on teh posting totals from the start, glad I could be here for this
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Mr Hootington posted:I would like to remind everyone that children do not get covid. quoting for the OP
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Sunny Side Up posted:For the OP: just link the leaked CDC slide deck, it's everything and more to show the dangers from both the virus and the administration: https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/cdc-breakthrough-infections/94390e3a-5e45-44a5-ac40-2744e4e25f2e/
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The Saucer Hovers posted:the OP primarily needs to be clean, direct answers to the same half dozen (good and right) questions that are asked every page COVID-19 Resources Vaccines Vaccine Spotter - find vaccines near you NYT Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker - breakdown of every vaccine in development with explanations of how they work/how well they work PPE Digikey - Respirator Masks / Zoro - Masks & Respiratory Protection - respirators for sale Goon recommended: 3M HF-802SD, 3M HF-803SD (large), 3M HF-801SD (small) Goon recommended filters: Cheap P100 cartridges, Less cheap P100 cartridges Grainger - Disposable Respirators - N95 masks for sale Goon recommended: 3M 8210 Bonafide Masks - Face Masks - KN95 masks for sale (coupon codes) Goon recommended: Powecom KN95 with headband (black), Powecom KN95 with headband (white) Be Healthy - KF94 masks for sale Goon recommended: Bluna Facefit Data CDC Community Transmission Map - how safe is it to go outside? Worldometer - rolling tally of worldwide COVID cases/deaths/etc. Our World in Data - rolling tally of worldwide COVID vaccinations HHS Hospital Utilization - current snapshot of hospital bed/ICU bed availability in the United States COVID-19 Hospital Capacity - current snapshot of COVID-19 patient admissions by hospital in the United States BNO Newsroom - periodic updates on worldwide COVID stats and news (their data is largely taken from Newsnodes) Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding - Epidemiologist Prof. Florian Krammer - Microbiologist YouTube Dr. John Campbell - UK doctor who breaks down the latest in COVID news and research Aaron Collins - PPE tester and reviewer Archives Goon curated COVID News repository Original C-SPAM COVID thread (June 2020–August 2021) McNugget Buddy fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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A Derek Lowe In the Pipeline column has hit the new thread about a perennial favourite doomer topic, antibody-dependent enhancement: It gets off to a fun start: quote:COVID-19 First the sort of good news: quote:The authors are building on another recent paper (Li et al.) on neutralizing and non-neutralizing antibodies against the current coronvirus. The preprint version of that one came out in February, and the final version went online in June. That work appears to be very solid, and represents a great deal of effort, so let’s discuss it for a bit before returning to the preprint above. In it, the authors isolated antibodies from human patients that target the receptor-binding domain (RBD) and others that target the N-terminal domain (NTD). They found using in vitro assays that both neutralizing and (especially) non-neutralizing antibodies that bound to the NTD showed antibody-dependent enhancement in cell infection. This took place partly through a well-known ADE pathway involving the Fc-gamma receptor, which allows for infection of macrophages, and this was indeed the main mechanism seen with ADE of the earlier (2003) SARS virus. It should be noted, though, that these seem to use different subtypes of the Fc-gamma receptor, so they’re not completely identical. And there were other cellular ADE events that were Fc-receptor-independent, though a mechanism that has not yet been worked out. Sounds pretty good so far, ADE has been seen in some cell studies but doesn't seem to be a factor in animal studies. The rest of the column is Lowe trashing some new simulation-only paper suggesting that the increased infectiousness of the Delta variant might in part due to an ADE effect: quote:Perhaps that’s why I haven’t been sent so many copies of the Li et al. manuscript, but rather this new one (Yahi et al.) I think it’s the title as well, which is an eye-catcher: “Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination?” The authors build on the earlier paper and make comparisons to the protein sequence of the Delta variant. They believe that the antibodies identified in the Li et al. paper as causing ADE in cell assays cause the Delta variant NTD to be more tightly bound to the membrane of human cells through an interaction with cell-surface lipid rafts, and they speculate that the balance between neutralization and infection enhancement, while favorable for earlier strains of the coronavirus, is tipped the other way for the Delta variant (thus the title of the paper, and this its rather bizarre Figure 2). About that title, while we’re on it – I’m not completely sure why they reference mass vaccination risks and not risks posed by previous infection by non-Delta strains, because I would have to think that the same concerns would apply. Lowe claims this shouldn't be taken too seriously without experimental validation, and goes on about ADE generally: quote:And in my view, the Yahi et al. paper is not aligned with reality. They do work in a line about how “although the results obtained so far have been rather reassuring. . .” with a reference to the Li et al. paper, but they should also refer to the massive amount of real-world evidence now available. We have hundreds of millions of people who have been vaccinated to produce antibodies against the non-Delta coronavirus protein domains and are who are now being exposed to the Delta variant. To reiterate, there is (to the best of my knowledge) no evidence whatsoever of ADE in this situation. In fact, we see the opposite: people who have been vaccinated are far less likely to become infected with the Delta variant, and if they become infected, they are far less likely to experience severe disease. These trends have been seen over and over in different populations, and they are the exact opposite of what you would see if ADE were operating. If the mechanism proposed by Yahi et al. were happening in the real world, then we should see higher Delta infection rates among vaccinated people, with more severe disease. We are not. We are seeing the reverse. The vaccines simply to not appear to be causing ADE, no matter how many reasons one might be able to spin for them to do so.
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that cute family of deer you saw on your walk in the woods? full of covid. just riddled with the stuff.
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highlight from the last thread  from goon Bruce Hussein Daddy
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McNugget Buddy posted:Vaccines i love you but THREAD FAVORITE HF800 needs to be singled out in this
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mod sassinator posted:just link the leaked CDC slide deck, it's everything and more to show the dangers from both the virus and the administration: https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/cdc-breakthrough-infections/94390e3a-5e45-44a5-ac40-2744e4e25f2e/ I was thinking it would be clearer to have explicit statements of fact requiring no analysis or thought. A + B = C. What's actually currently thought to be known without caveat.
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apatheticman posted:New thread means new possibilities, what's going to happen next?!? I'm tired of being Covid Cassandra but I'd also like to keep my kids alive, ya know?
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Chad Sexington posted:The old thread gave me anxiety. "posts that aged poorly"
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LionArcher posted:spoiler. it was never healthy. Does it count as flat if it's vertical?
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Spoondick posted:https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1427342828921769998?s=19 This is really hopeful stuff
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