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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Nash posted:

Sounds like a school up in Elmhurst already got dinged by ISBE for refusing to mask up for the year. Get hosed idiots.

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Nash
Aug 1, 2003

Sign my 'Bring Goldberg Back' Petition
The district I’m in has their board meeting tonight. Local Facebook as expected is both hootin and hollerin about masks are objects of oppression, just look at those people in the Middle East. Also they spread Covid, just watch this YouTube video!

I will be honestly shocked if the board chooses masks. Even though I work for the district I will absolutely call ISBE to put our district in the crosshairs of pulled funding.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Our local township supervisor and his dipshit brigade he got elected to village trustee positions strongly advocated abandoning all state funding so they can not wear masks in school.

Thankfully the school board said "uh no we're following ISBE"

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




I was talking to a coworker up in one of the Northwest Exurbs of Chicago. She has a friend on the school or village board, and asked pro-mask people to come to the meeting about masking in the schools. Luckily her town has a rule that you need to state your name and address before making a comment. So while the meeting was filled with anti-mask people, only a handful could actually comment. Sounds like various groups are encouraging people to attend meetings for other towns to try and get masking mandates shut down.

For bonus points, when one pro-mask person was trying to make a comment, it got loud with the audience talking over that person. When the commenter asked for people to please be quiet and stop “cat-calling” her, some 40ish woman in the back started loudly meowing. The police had to escort the meowing woman out of the meeting because she wouldn’t stop.

That is the level of madness going on out there right now.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
So loving glad Unit 5 bit the bullet and mandated masks.

The local school board meeting was a poo poo-show, brigaded by plague rats without kids in unit 5 schools, but they luckily delayed decisions until after the CDC released their updated guidelines.

Lager
Mar 9, 2004

Give me the secret to the anti-puppet equation!

dwarf74 posted:

So loving glad Unit 5 bit the bullet and mandated masks.

The local school board meeting was a poo poo-show, brigaded by plague rats without kids in unit 5 schools, but they luckily delayed decisions until after the CDC released their updated guidelines.

Fortunately only well-known shithead Jeremy DeHaai voted against masking up for the fall in unit 5. Though I was annoyed that they tried to kick the can down the road by saying they'd only do masks until late September and then reevaluate, when it's obvious that this is going to just get worse from here until all the kids can get vaccinated.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Orvin posted:

I was talking to a coworker up in one of the Northwest Exurbs of Chicago. She has a friend on the school or village board, and asked pro-mask people to come to the meeting about masking in the schools. Luckily her town has a rule that you need to state your name and address before making a comment. So while the meeting was filled with anti-mask people, only a handful could actually comment. Sounds like various groups are encouraging people to attend meetings for other towns to try and get masking mandates shut down.

For bonus points, when one pro-mask person was trying to make a comment, it got loud with the audience talking over that person. When the commenter asked for people to please be quiet and stop “cat-calling” her, some 40ish woman in the back started loudly meowing. The police had to escort the meowing woman out of the meeting because she wouldn’t stop.

That is the level of madness going on out there right now.

These people are going to make big pushes to take over local governments and school boards at their next opportunity. Unfortunately, those positions are usually in low-turnout off year spring elections where maybe 5% of eligible people bother to vote.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


My school votes on Monday over their mask decision. Facebook is filled with angry people and they are sharing a list of schools that are opposing the mask mandate as a sign that others can.

20 schools: (although I think a few of them have not voted either way)



I do not know if joining that list is such a great place to be.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:
My school is on that list :waycool:

We're also in the middle of contract negotiations with our useless rear end anti-mask school board and I hope JB comes down on them with the power of 1000 suns. I seriously don't know if I even want to go to work next week if things don't change.

Sailor Jerry
May 28, 2013
Pillbug
Oh no, there's at least 8 on that list within an hour's drive.

Talked to my local school superintendent. They're sticking with ISBE recommendations.

I feel bad for the kids if the funding gets cut off. Many of those districts rely so heavily on it.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Yeah, there are 8 (2 not on there) that are within an hour. I hope they recognize their foolishness before it hurts the school too much.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Good, more money to pay down the pension debt.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

I suppose most of those schools think ISBE is just bluffing about cutting funding. I don’t really know how I feel about it. Cutting funding is one of the few tools they have to enforce this, but if they do it, then the kids are the ones who suffer the most.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Well the chuds have decided the best way to end their suffering is sacrifice them to the pandemic to own the libs so it's a lose-lose situation.

But if the funding threat convinces some districts to actually use some trivial public health guidelines, the long term result is a net win.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/ByMattMasterson/status/1426194898492006402?s=20

still not required for city, parks, or cta employees though

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Bird in a Blender posted:

I suppose most of those schools think ISBE is just bluffing about cutting funding. I don’t really know how I feel about it. Cutting funding is one of the few tools they have to enforce this, but if they do it, then the kids are the ones who suffer the most.

I am sure it is a mix of people thinking they are bluffing and part that are just so selfish and insane that they don't care. Which frankly I am fine with the ISBE pulling funding and perhaps accreditation. Best case scenario the schools fall in line, although I fully expect a lot of these not following guidelines in practice. Worst case these school systems dissolve and the students are forced to go another system that is complying. You have a side benefit of a lot of these stupid idiots being heavily inconvenienced by their children going to a school much farther away.

Nash
Aug 1, 2003

Sign my 'Bring Goldberg Back' Petition
https://southernillinoisnow.com/2021/08/13/south-central-school-district-to-start-school-without-mask-mandate/

This is the district I teach in and my elementary age children attend. It’s as dumb as it sounds. I hate that my district has essentially said it doesn’t give a poo poo about my children’s health. School starts Monday and the Spanish teacher called the district today and told them he quits because of their dumb decision. I’m kinda envious to be honest.

I’ve been telling everyone I know to report it to isbe to get it smashed into the ground for non compliance. South Central District 401

Covid19@isbe.net is the email to report schools to.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Hopefully some of these districts will be forced to finally merge and we won't have 800 districts anymore.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1426670332837076997?s=20

Currently 5 House Republicans from Illinois.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.



The only map I will accept.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!



God, I wish D15 could gently caress over all of the Eastern Bloc members and Mary Miller.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Dexo posted:



The only map I will accept.



:thunk:

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
geology is destiny

Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster
Construction has begun on the Obama center. In a few years time I will fulfill my dream of playing one of the Witcher 3 sex minigames in it.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Well, my town’s school district voted to make masks “recommended but not required.” I hope ISBE gets after them.

Unfortunately, this area believes that they have a chance to win a lawsuit against Pritzker over this because Tom Devore keeps telling them that he will win (he has not won a case outside of Clay county in 18 months).

He is the prime example of failing upwards and everyone in this area is suckered in by it. He will be making money though.

MrBishop
Sep 30, 2006

I see what you did there...

Soiled Meat

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

My school votes on Monday over their mask decision. Facebook is filled with angry people and they are sharing a list of schools that are opposing the mask mandate as a sign that others can.

20 schools: (although I think a few of them have not voted either way)



I do not know if joining that list is such a great place to be.

A few of those schools are pretty close to me. One of those close to me voted last week to follow ISBE recommendations on masking. My son's school board voted in June (after "evaluating the science") to go mask-optional for the 21-22 school year, but the district received notice from ISBE last week that they're on suspension; there's a board meeting on Wednesday, hopefully they'll reverse course. Classes were supposed to start today, but fortunately there's a one-week delay to due some delayed construction.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


MrBishop posted:

A few of those schools are pretty close to me. One of those close to me voted last week to follow ISBE recommendations on masking. My son's school board voted in June (after "evaluating the science") to go mask-optional for the 21-22 school year, but the district received notice from ISBE last week that they're on suspension; there's a board meeting on Wednesday, hopefully they'll reverse course. Classes were supposed to start today, but fortunately there's a one-week delay to due some delayed construction.

A few of them have received letters of probation and held emergency meetings only to see the board still vote to keep masks optional.

They all plan on calling ISBE’s bluff and what pisses me off the most is that they are going to push this as far as possible and then switch to masks right before they actually face consequences.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Lammasu posted:

Construction has begun on the Obama center. In a few years time I will fulfill my dream of playing one of the Witcher 3 sex minigames in it.

My company is bidding on a portion of it. I might get to run it if we get it.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

They all plan on calling ISBE’s bluff and what pisses me off the most is that they are going to push this as far as possible and then switch to masks right before they actually face consequences.

It’s funny how the big school districts in Texas and Florida are doing the same thing to require masks. I honestly wonder how all of it will play out in the courts.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Supreme court so far has followed a “whatever the state decides, they will allow it” as long as it does not gently caress over businesses too much.

Indiana University students sued IU over its vaccine mandate (no vaccine equals having to wear a mask and regular testing). Justice Amy Coney Barrett rejected their lawsuit and refused to send it to the full court.

We are more likely to have 50 different Covid set ups. Texas will have its own rules (that the state Supreme Court is already signaling that it will support the governor’s orders) and Illinois will have its own rules (that our courts have signaled over and over that it supports the governor’s orders).

Lammasu
May 8, 2019

lawful Good Monster

Bird in a Blender posted:

My company is bidding on a portion of it. I might get to run it if we get it.

Run the Witcher 3 sex minigames?

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Supreme court so far has followed a “whatever the state decides, they will allow it” as long as it does not gently caress over businesses too much.

Indiana University students sued IU over its vaccine mandate (no vaccine equals having to wear a mask and regular testing). Justice Amy Coney Barrett rejected their lawsuit and refused to send it to the full court.

We are more likely to have 50 different Covid set ups. Texas will have its own rules (that the state Supreme Court is already signaling that it will support the governor’s orders) and Illinois will have its own rules (that our courts have signaled over and over that it supports the governor’s orders).

I’m not a lawyer, but I imagine a lot of state constitutions are extremely vague on what emergency powers the governors have, and the courts are shrugging their shoulders. At least we live in a state with a mostly good governor.

Chicago public schools go back in two weeks, and I’m expecting it to be a poo poo show for some areas of the city. There’s a pretty wide gap in vaccination rates for parts of the city.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

I remember we were talking a while ago about what is to be done re: rural illinois and with places like this I’m really not sure there’s much that can be done

https://twitter.com/AsInMarx/status/1427465951285493767?s=20

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Badger of Basra posted:

I remember we were talking a while ago about what is to be done re: rural illinois and with places like this I’m really not sure there’s much that can be done

https://twitter.com/AsInMarx/status/1427465951285493767?s=20
Cairo is a special case for Downstate IL because (a) it was never a farming town, it was all about river trade; and (b) Unlike most of Downstate, Cairo is majority black.

It's always struck me as weird it's not bigger or more important. On a fantasy map, there'd be a giant city plopped down there with zero hesitation.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Dexo posted:



The only map I will accept.

The rainbow coalition.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


dwarf74 posted:

Cairo is a special case for Downstate IL because (a) it was never a farming town, it was all about river trade; and (b) Unlike most of Downstate, Cairo is majority black.

It's always struck me as weird it's not bigger or more important. On a fantasy map, there'd be a giant city plopped down there with zero hesitation.

Hopefully this state project will help revitalize the city.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/CrainsChicago/status/1427691141307281413?s=20

Get ready.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

When are they gonna do a loving vaccine mandate Jesus Christ

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.
My guess is that mandates will come with full FDA approval rather than the current Emergency Use Authorization. Not that that's necessarily a good, evidence-based policy, the EUA should be sufficient, but it's politically easier.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Badger of Basra posted:

When are they gonna do a loving vaccine mandate Jesus Christ

It won't work because all governance is paralyzed by being perfectly split down the middle, this is the cesspool America built for itself so now we get to wallow in it.

Though for me personally, I'm about ready for a US amendment to allow the feds to deal with public health crises.

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