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Slugworth: Feb 18, 2001; If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

PinheadSlim posted:

It's almost always better to deal with things without the cops and gently caress the goons whose first thought for a minor inconvenience is "call the loving police" lmao

To be fair, sounds like op is British, so his police call wouldn't have ended with a dead black person. It's not a terrible use for a sane police system.

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champagne posting: Apr 5, 2006; YOU ARE A BRAIN
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Slugworth posted:

To be fair, sounds like op is British, so his police call wouldn't have ended with a dead black person. It's not a terrible use for a sane police system.

I'm reliably informed that if you call the police in Britain because you saw someone who made you clutch your pearls they will tell you to gently caress off.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 11:31

Serjeant Snubbin: Feb 1, 2002; Pillbug

BitBasher posted:

There is very little chance any average driver could have responded to that before impact.

Speaking of average driver response times, I drove a rental car on the weekend and that was interesting. It had a bunch more driver "assistance" features. Some of them - not so great.

For example, the accelerator pedal was run through some sort of filter where, when I pressed the accelerator, it would have a think about life and dawdle around before slowly increasing the speed of the vehicle. It was slapped under the guise of "ECO mode" which is a great way to give a bad reputation to driving in a fuel efficient manner.

Another time, on a very tight hairpin going over a mountain pass the dashboard chimed and flashed up a message: "WARNING: BEWARE OF ICE". Quite clever that it had noticed the drop in temperature below zero and that I was on a road known for icy conditions. Not so clever distracting me and pulling my attention to an unusual message when I was half a metre from a cliff and/or crevasse.

But the best time was when I was following a line of cars and we came upon a tractor. The tractor pulled off to the shoulder to allow us to pass. It was on the outside of a curve. As I came up the sensors saw that there was a much slower vehicle nearby (the tractor) and honked out a giant warning on the dashboard: "BRAKE! BRAKE!!!" As an average driver I did have enough time to ignore the message and continue passing the tractor. If I had needed to brake there really wouldn't have been enough time and the car should have braked for itself. First time I'd ever seen the message. Not much time to process and respond that at all.

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SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

erosion posted:

or, don't park on such a narrow and ridiculously busy street

tbh if it's that busy it shouldn't be marked for parking. It's better to cut off problems before they can happen.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 11:53

Pigsfeet on Rye: Oct 22, 2008; I'm meat on the hoof

Sagebrush posted:

this was posted on imgur with the consensus that the person opening the door is at fault for not paying more attention to her mirrors.

https://i.imgur.com/RPiTEOQ.mp4

i contend that the person driving the car that hit a stationary object is the one at fault but what do i know

I try to do this when I'm parked on a street:
https://www.rospa.com/road-safety/advice/cyclists-and-motorcyclists/dutch-reach

# ? Aug 17, 2021 12:20

Rascar Capac: Aug 31, 2016; Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

Slugworth posted:

To be fair, sounds like op is British, so his police call wouldn't have ended with a dead black person. It's not a terrible use for a sane police system.

Black people are more than twice as likely as white people to die in police custody in England and Wales. It's why we've got our very own version of BLM.

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Pile Of Garbage: May 28, 2007

Same in Australia as well with first nation people dying in custody at exorbitant rates.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 12:25

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

SniperWoreConverse posted:

tbh if it's that busy it shouldn't be marked for parking. It's better to cut off problems before they can happen.

No, what you do is separate the parking spot and the driving lane with some sort of buffer zone!

PORBELM SLOEVD!!! :pseudo:

# ? Aug 17, 2021 12:49

Serephina: Nov 8, 2005; 恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

I once helped a child cyclist (age 12-14ish?) who was calling out Help! in the middle of a crowded street, in front of busy stores. Someone had door'd him as per this discussion, except he's a cyclist and not a car so he lost, hard. He was straddling his cycle with a chunk of his thigh missing, with a lovely mottled lump of skin and flesh hanging off of a nearby parked car. The guy had door'd the kid then walked into the fish&chip store, not even caring to clean his car.

I hung around until the ambulance arrived keeping the kid calm, but ofc the first things the parents do when they roll up is cry out "Oh my god!" which sets the boy off again. I didn't hang around to gawk, but the father walked into the store after it was pointed out who did it, and I hope he commited a few felonies in there.

Look before opening your loving door.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 13:09

Pile Of Garbage: May 28, 2007

Nenonen posted:

No, what you do is separate the parking spot and the driving lane with some sort of buffer zone!

PORBELM SLOEVD!!!

Is that in ~~Victoria~~ Melbourne (Pretty sure it is)?

OSHA related to cycling at least: a good video on how London hosed up bicycles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohSeOYheXg

# ? Aug 17, 2021 13:13

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

it's whatever

if the car door guy wants to die, let 'em

covid antivaxxers have dramatically altered how much energy I'll spend on stressing over people who want to hurt themselves

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Pile Of Garbage: May 28, 2007

C-SPAM is thatta way->

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Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

It�s in the opposite direction from the pile of garbage.

Checks out.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 13:22

mostlygray: Nov 1, 2012; BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

champagne posting posted:

"I'll just open my door then look if anyone is coming at me".

In the Netherlands I learned a trick for never getting in this situation like the idiot in the video: Grab the door handle with the arm furthest away from the door so you swing your torso to look in the direction of incoming traffic / cyclists. It's very helpful for not getting in a 100% preventable accident like the one experienced by this salt of the earth.

The person that hit the stationary car is at fault. When the roads are tight in town, you have to be ready for a car door to open. You watch mirrors and doors as you drive and you slow the hell down when you see any parked car crack their door.

Customary is to open the door slightly before you get out. The driver coming up should come to a stop to let you out. You never drive so fast that you can't stop to let someone get in or out of their car.

If people driving on that road typically drive that fast, there should not be parking or they should drop a lane and put in angled parking.

Not hitting a parked car is driving 101. You are the one moving. You are responsible.

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Atticus_1354: Dec 10, 2006; barkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbark

mostlygray posted:

If people driving on that road typically drive that fast, there should not be parking or they should drop a lane and put in angled parking.

Not hitting a parked car is driving 101. You are the one moving. You are responsible.

They didn't hit a parked car. They hit a door that was opened in to their lane of travel. The speed you want them to be traveling would be 5 mph.

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Ola: Jul 19, 2004

Stuff like that is part of the reason I prefer permanent running lights front and rear. You can tell from the rear lights turning off when someone's just switched off their car and are about to exit. (In some cases at least)

Ola fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Aug 17, 2021

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:07

crusty: Apr 16, 2015; Crustacean

So many incorrect opinions on the car door thing. The car driving did not hit a stationary object, it hit an object that was moved into the road in front of it.

e: yes, finally! ^^

Anyway I have a dog in this fight - as a kid I was riding my bike past a car when the driver opened the door without looking. I flew over the handlebars and over the car door, landed in the middle of the road somehow without breaking any bones and somehow without being run over by the Ferrari that was coming up behind me. I did rip my thumbnail clean off though.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:10

Splode: Jun 18, 2013; put some clothes on you little freak

Can car door opening chat please end soon

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:13

LifeSunDeath: Jan 4, 2007; still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Splode posted:

Can car door opening chat please end soon

Lets talk about cardoor not open chat:

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:16

History Comes Inside!: Nov 20, 2004

mostlygray posted:

The person that hit the stationary car is at fault. When the roads are tight in town, you have to be ready for a car door to open. You watch mirrors and doors as you drive and you slow the hell down when you see any parked car crack their door.

Customary is to open the door slightly before you get out. The driver coming up should come to a stop to let you out. You never drive so fast that you can't stop to let someone get in or out of their car.

If people driving on that road typically drive that fast, there should not be parking or they should drop a lane and put in angled parking.

Not hitting a parked car is driving 101. You are the one moving. You are responsible.

They didn�t hit the car, they hit the door that got wrongly opened into their path.

The door opener is at fault.

Source: this was literally my job for several years.

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Cartoon Man: Jan 31, 2004

https://i.imgur.com/DVNBWXz.gifv

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:17

LimaBiker: Dec 9, 2020

Definitely the fault of the parked car. That driver should have used their loving mirrors, and could likely have seen the car that was approaching.
As a second safety factor, first open the door only slightly to give the approaching car a heads up and a decent chance to swerve.

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:18

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

mostlygray posted:

The person that hit the stationary car is at fault. When the roads are tight in town, you have to be ready for a car door to open. You watch mirrors and doors as you drive and you slow the hell down when you see any parked car crack their door.

Customary is to open the door slightly before you get out. The driver coming up should come to a stop to let you out. You never drive so fast that you can't stop to let someone get in or out of their car.

If people driving on that road typically drive that fast, there should not be parking or they should drop a lane and put in angled parking.

Not hitting a parked car is driving 101. You are the one moving. You are responsible.

Did you at least enjoy your fish and chips?

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:19

zedprime: Jun 9, 2007; yospos

The simple way to think about it is who would be at fault if the parked car was driving into the lane of travel? The moving car usually has right of way and that shouldn't change whether they are pulling out or opening a door. Both are cases where a vehicle is in secondary lane about to move into the primary lane of travel.

There's a lot of people who were taught hitting anything with your front end puts you at fault and it's a good rule of thumb I guess but misses a lot of subtlety about right of way.

Atticus_1354 posted:

They didn't hit a parked car. They hit a door that was opened in to their lane of travel. The speed you want them to be traveling would be 5 mph.

But at a certain level maybe they're not wrong even if (especially if) it worsens parking hell and inspires public transport solutions.

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Bertha the Toaster: Jan 11, 2009

Splode posted:

Can car door opening chat please end soon

Yeah, it needs to come to a close.

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Scratch Monkey: Oct 25, 2010; 👰Proč bychom se netě�ili🥰kdy� n�m P�n Bůh🙌🏻zdrav� d�💪?

Whooping Crabs posted:

also

https://i.imgur.com/SZiivyn.mp4

# ? Aug 17, 2021 14:44

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die; Nap Ghost

person in the car opening door should have double checked the mirrors, but the black car was driving too fast. one person caused the accident but either person could have prevented it by being more safe and attentive, and at the end of the day there's less satisfaction than being in an accident that wasn't your fault than just getting home on time in one piece

vvv it looked like it was going faster than the first car to me :shrug:

sorry for continuing the derail

Mozi fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Aug 17, 2021

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Atticus_1354: Dec 10, 2006; barkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbarkbark