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peanut- posted:It’s hard to break OP, all my Lamarckian inherited instincts make me want to believe that they mean well but they don’t. They are very bad people! There are lots of very cool people in Labour but also lots of extremely poo poo ones, probably more of the former tbh. Unfortunately most of the elected officials fall into the latter category and also happen to be the people who both consider themselves and are considered by the media establishment to be 'moderate' and therefore, somehow, as having a right to both organisational and ideological precedence within the party above and beyond any 'factional' group (no, they're not a faction in themselves, no no). Short of some incredibly improbable, co-ordinated, 100 level-intrigue purge of the Right by the membership* I do not see how this situation changes and the SCG + unions should be seriously considering ditching the whole thing and forming a new party, and taking a huge chunk of the members with them. It's a risk, but what the hell else can be done from here? Britain absolutely needs a proper socialist party, and there's a decent chance that a well-funded insurgent party relentlessly hammering Labour from the left as they are starved of resources could begin to make inroads. It would be a slow process, but you need to start somewhere. *Semi-related but I think we're really going to have to come to terms with the fact that, thanks to decades of neoliberalism, socialism isn't really the widespread ideology some of think it is in the UK, hiding in the shadows and amongst the young. While lots call them themselves socialists or communists or anarchists or whatever, they're overwhelmingly progressive socdems who want a fairer society and less exploitation, but I genuinely think only the tiniest fraction are meaningfully left-wing in the sense that they have directly engaged in any real class-analysis or thought about the economic framework of capitalism and potential alternatives. They'd still vote for someone like Corbyn - a scandi-style demsoc - but I think even assuming we get our new party (lol) and it has some success (lol) we'd still have a huge upward struggle to convince people to think of more radical policies than 'less racism' and 'better wages/more secure jobs', 'higher taxes for rich people' etc.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:36
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: Though not a walking sim but absolutely what I'd call an exploration game, can't recommend Outer Wilds highly enough. That is unless you've already played it and if not, drop what you're doing and get it, it is an absolutely fantastic experience.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:40
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: I quite enjoyed the Painscreek Killings, though it's a bit more puzzle/mystery than some walking sims.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:43
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/Kate_M_Proctor/status/1427597266106339331 Is it this? 
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Aug 17, 2021 13:45
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/Kate_M_Proctor/status/1427597266106339331 This sprint we are delivering 400 purged antisemites. ~ furiously starts typing names of leftists into Jira tickets ~ I am confident this agile transformation will be the thing that finally actually kills the Labour Party. A joke about burndown rates goes here.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:47
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frytechnician posted:Though not a walking sim but absolutely what I'd call an exploration game, can't recommend Outer Wilds highly enough. That is unless you've already played it and if not, drop what you're doing and get it, it is an absolutely fantastic experience. I have it! I think I will play it next after my current runthrough of the Phoenix Wright games also I just remembered I also need to play Journey edit: and Obra Dinn
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Aug 17, 2021 13:48
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frytechnician posted:Though not a walking sim but absolutely what I'd call an exploration game, can't recommend Outer Wilds highly enough. That is unless you've already played it and if not, drop what you're doing and get it, it is an absolutely fantastic experience. There was an extremely funny speedrun of Outer Wilds at SGDQ this year, where the runner did the usual acrobatics through a series of sci-fi environments while the audience in chat repeatedly burst into tears at the emotional weight of seeing certain rooms again.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:49
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I've always seen agile as a way to trick people into working harder for the same pay to cover up for poor planning and mismanagement. No wonder Keith loves it
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In this Show 'n' Tell meeting, we're revealing the progress we've made on delivering our Minimum Viable Product: As you can see there's still a lot of work to be done but we've hit the key milestones and achieved most of the deliverables and we hope to begin user acceptance testing soon.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:54
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1965917 posted:I've always seen agile as a way to trick people into working harder for the same pay to cover up for poor planning and mismanagement. It's this but occasionally it lets you as a worker push back a little bit and own deadlines. Of course mysteriously that's the bit of agile that gets ignored the most, then again I suspect it was only added (to most 'agile' methodologies, whatever that means in practice) in the first place to stop workers from rebelling when presented with it.
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Aug 17, 2021 13:57
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Labcoin: decentralised untraceable campaign finance.
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1965917 posted:I've always seen agile as a way to trick people into working harder for the same pay to cover up for poor planning and mismanagement. Agile is great in certain environments (i.e. breaking down a large project into chunks and ensuring they meet requirements along the way) but in a political party? Purely idiotic
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Aug 17, 2021 14:02
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:In this Show 'n' Tell meeting, we're revealing the progress we've made on delivering our Minimum Viable Product: I want to frame this post.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:03
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Puntification posted:Dem's are at least good at fundraising, imagine being less competent than them. It was a photo from one of the afghan evacuation flights with hundreds of people on board a military plane. She was complaining that she couldn't see any women (even though there were clearly women in the photo). I dunno if she was implying the men were all cowards or something.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:05
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I have to assume an "agile ceremony" is when you just read out those tweets in a monotone voice in a dimly lit stone room while sacrificing a new hire on the altar.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:05
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In theory, agile is a great way to empower teams to be autonomous, and to make the right decision by focusing on customer feedback No company I have ever worked for has achieved this, because NONE of them do agile correctly and this is only within the context of software dev, loving LOL at labour trying it
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Aug 17, 2021 14:08
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Noxville posted:Agile is great in certain environments (i.e. breaking down a large project into chunks and ensuring they meet requirements along the way) but in a political party? Purely idiotic It runs the gamut from the dork enlightenment Moldbug "bring Charles II back as CEO" reactionaries to Musk fanboys to Vince Cables to New Labour PFI spads to most of the journalist class, and has captured most of the public attention to the point where everyone would look at you as if you'd grown three heads if you said "we need to run this greengrocers like a school" or "we need to run this factory like a monastery" but "we need to run this vital social service more like a business" is just sensible.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:12
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As a: leader of the opposition I want to: kill a llama So that: jobs
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Aug 17, 2021 14:15
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: Do you like some puzzling? Play Obduction. It's a Myst. Made by Cyan, so you can't get more Myst than that. It's good except for that one puzzle near the end. Very beautiful and chill.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:18
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Agile cannot fail, it can only be failed. The fact that it is always shite is only because nobody every implements it right. The research has shown that removing all the meeting room furniture and having 20minute stand up meetings every morning will make productivity go up Up UP
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Aug 17, 2021 14:19
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Aug 17, 2021 14:20
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: The Stanley parable is more comedy focused but its a good as hell exploration of storytelling in games. I mainly recomend it because of the main writer's followup game: The Beginner's guide, which I loving love. I don't want to spoil anything about it, if you like games about the creative process and the motivation behind creativity pick it up!
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Aug 17, 2021 14:22
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The Perfect Element posted:It was a photo from one of the afghan evacuation flights with hundreds of people on board a military plane. She was complaining that she couldn't see any women (even though there were clearly women in the photo). I dunno if she was implying the men were all cowards or something. It's one of those multidimensional concern-trolling points - you can read it as "Well all these men should stand and fight" or "women are at greater risk from the Taliban but all these men pushed them off the flight" or "HMM SEEMS LIKE ITS ONLY MILITARY AGE MEN WHO WANT TO COME HERE HMMMMMMM" but the ultimate meaning is "No, these aren't the *right kind* of refugees".
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Aug 17, 2021 14:28
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Last thing we need are more brown men coming over ere.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:33
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Keith's just been watching his documentaries again and wants to protect us.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's one of those multidimensional concern-trolling points - you can read it as "Well all these men should stand and fight" or "women are at greater risk from the Taliban but all these men pushed them off the flight" or "HMM SEEMS LIKE ITS ONLY MILITARY AGE MEN WHO WANT TO COME HERE HMMMMMMM" but the ultimate meaning is "No, these aren't the *right kind* of refugees". This bollox about how they should 'stay and fight for their country'. Fight WHO? And we know darn well that the people spouting that sort of bollox are the sort of people who would push everyone out of their way to escape crying 'mummy'. 'They' used to say it about Syrians. Well who exactly would they have people fight for 'for their country'? Assad and get marmalized by the US/UK, the 'moderate rebels' and get marmalized by the Russians & Iranians? The 'extremist rebels' and get marmalized by everyone? And I don't even know all the parties involved in Afghanistan - the govt whose president has done a runner, the taliban, anyone else? There seems to be no idea that in many societies/cultures, men will leave in an attempt to find work and somewhere to live - often in dire accommodation - to (a) send money home to their families and (b) bring their families to them later. Also, invaders or whatever you want to call them will often execute men en masse pretty rapidly on taking over and kidnap women for sexual gratification. Whether certain death or certain rape is better, is a choice everyone will have their own views about and I certainly hope I'm never in a position to have to choose. I was checking out some stuff on the Afghan refugees in Iran (there are about 3 million - only around 780k are 'documented'). The viewpoints differ: UNHCR report (Iranian govt is wonderful to Afghan refugees - they probably have to write this to be allowed to continue to work there): https://www.unhcr.org/ir/refugees-in-iran/ A different view (living the Priti Awful dream): https://www.arabnews.com/node/1687721
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Also, invaders or whatever you want to call them will often execute men en masse pretty rapidly on taking over and kidnap women for sexual gratification. Whether certain death or certain rape is better, is a choice everyone will have their own views about and I certainly hope I'm never in a position to have to choose. It's the same action movie nonsense that makes people think that they would Rambo their way out of a choice between conscription and execution that leads them to fail to understand how military age men fleeing weakens those kinds of governments, and the same reason that a lot of young white men left South Africa in the 80s, because they didn't want to get murdered in endless bush war for an apartheid state.
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Aug 17, 2021 14:47
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1427621802730311685?s=21 quote:In the presentation, Evans said Labour would be “voter-centric”, i.e. “serving the needs of voters first”, as opposed to engaging in “transactional behaviours”, i.e. “telling voters what they should think or do, or asking questions on our terms”. If the spokes is "regions and nations" then I have to wonder what the hub is apart from whatever dimension evan's brain is occupying, because last I checked everyone else lives in a region or a nation. Also as opposed to citizen facing activities that do not happen close to voters. All them people who canvass at the bottom of a mine.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:05
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OwlFancier posted:If the spokes is "regions and nations" then I have to wonder what the hub is apart from whatever dimension evan's brain is occupying, because last I checked everyone else lives in a region or a nation. Voters will need to change planes at Heathrow before learning what the policies are
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Aug 17, 2021 15:12
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I also cannot help but feel that even if I believed it, constantly saying to people "we are whatever you want us to be" in contrast to the tories coming up with an actual platform, is probably not going to go favourably for labour in an election. Perhaps they believe the problem with people not believing they stand for anything is actually that they haven't told people they don't stand for anything loudly enough. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's one of those multidimensional concern-trolling points - you can read it as "Well all these men should stand and fight" or "women are at greater risk from the Taliban but all these men pushed them off the flight" or "HMM SEEMS LIKE ITS ONLY MILITARY AGE MEN WHO WANT TO COME HERE HMMMMMMM" but the ultimate meaning is "No, these aren't the *right kind* of refugees". Trolling in higher dimensions is how you justify your Guardian salary. Looking at Toynbees family, her dad was a prominent Oxford commie who was out scrapping with Moseley and the boys and doing antifa things in Spain, yet her grandad met with Hitler and found him charming and sincere. So I guess the hot take gene skips a generation. Also thats a pretty solid "gently caress YOU DAD" dynamic at play
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Aug 17, 2021 15:17
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Polly Toynbee has achieved familial synthesis and turned fash granddad and commie dad into guardian columnist.
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That's a hell of a redundancy package tbf Four weeks per year worked, with a minimum of 5k? If I could get that at my job I'd be gone yesterday
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