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Aug 16, 2021 19:54
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Colonel Whitey posted:I’ve never seen the Once Upon A Time in China movies, are they worth a blind buy? I love good martial arts stuff but I’ve only really seen Jet Li’s American stuff, sadly. The first three are, absolutely. I haven’t seen the Vincent Zhao films yet.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:02
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Escobarbarian posted:What if it was the cockatoo shot but there’s a K inside the eye  It's a little shoddy cuz I'm on Photopea at work.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:16
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missed opportunity to have the cover be 4 Ks
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Aug 16, 2021 20:25
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Aug 16, 2021 20:27
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Franchescanado posted:
Perfect
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Aug 16, 2021 20:38
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https://twitter.com/Lauzirika/status/1427356417518972943?s=19
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Aug 16, 2021 21:09
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I don’t give a single poo poo about Kane, but that “bad” poster is unironically a million times better than yet another low-effort minimalist take. Not that it matters either way, every dork arguing about it is still going to shell out $30 for it during the first sale it’s available.
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Aug 16, 2021 21:14
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https://twitter.com/not_a_heather/status/1427329214705963008?s=19
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Aug 16, 2021 21:24
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it looks like a previous track button to me
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Aug 16, 2021 21:26
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Franchescanado posted:
this and make it holographic/lenticular so when you wiggle the box the bird yells at you
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Aug 16, 2021 21:26
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fun hater posted:this and make it holographic/lenticular so when you wiggle the box the bird yells at you Make it like the talking greeting cards and have it squawk at you when you open the case
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Aug 16, 2021 21:31
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Liar Lyre posted:Make it like the talking greeting cards and have it squawk at you when you open the case it should be like a 1/64th chance so it scares the absolute poo poo out of you when it happens
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Aug 16, 2021 21:33
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I'm happy for Menace II Society
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Aug 16, 2021 22:24
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Dangerous Person posted:I'm happy for Menace II Society It's a Sister Hyde design, and it looks great: https://twitter.com/HydeSister/status/1427318040476065812?s=20 She's been doing such great design work across so many labels lately. She's also doing the Fassbinder box set for Arrow: https://twitter.com/ArrowFilmsVideo/status/1421109114529275913?s=20 Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 22:31
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smallmouth posted:I watched Fat City last night. It was good. At the very end the main character has an epiphany as he looks at two tables of people playing cards. I was wondering if anyone had comments on what this epiphany was? The way I understand it, looking at the crowded tables instills him with a profound sense of loneliness. Only at that point does he fully realise how cut off he feels from everyone else. Immediately afterwards, his friend prepares to leave and he desperately asks him to stay. At that point, the film closes by repeating a part of the opening song, specifically the following stanza: quote:Yesterday is dead and gone
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Aug 16, 2021 22:35
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drat Hearts and Minds is really good.
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Aug 17, 2021 00:51
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Samuel Clemens posted:The way I understand it, looking at the crowded tables instills him with a profound sense of loneliness. Only at that point does he fully realise how cut off he feels from everyone else. I think that makes sense, thanks. Susan Tyrrell was fantastic. I watched Asphalt Jungle last night. It was pretty bad. Monroe is an absolute stunner.
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Aug 17, 2021 01:38
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smallmouth posted:I think that makes sense, thanks. Susan Tyrrell was fantastic. Power Glove bad or Michael Jackson bad?
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Aug 17, 2021 01:51
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Cacator posted:Power Glove bad or Michael Jackson bad? Power Glove. I didn’t enjoy it, at least. A lot of scenes were slow moving and too explainy—overall it was dull. Edit: looking at IMDb reviews my take is edgy as hell. I dunno, I just found it boring. smallmouth fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 17, 2021 01:55
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Franchescanado posted:It's a Sister Hyde design, and it looks great: Dope. Now I'm extra excited
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Aug 17, 2021 02:38
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I'm not ordinarily one to complain about cover art, but I've gotta say that Citizen Kane art is abysmal. I've been trying really hard to find ways to defend it, but I just can't. This is arguably one of Criterion's most important releases of all time, yet they make the laziest art they could have possibly come up with. And yes I'll buy it. Duh.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:20
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I think my bigger issue with the Citizen Kane art is that it's a really bad representation of a film that's still misunderstood all the time, arguably growing more misunderstood. This was posted in the Physical Thread when people were discussing CK's design as well: CelticPredator posted:This thread is filled with too much arty films. Where’s my moderately known genre films And nothing against CP, and it might not be directed entirely at Citizen Kane talk, but this is a pretty common thing with Citizen Kane. I didn't watch it until I was, like, 26 years old cuz I thought it would be dry and boring. And it's not. It's a drama, a character study, but it's also funny, charming, depressing, the characters are frustrating in compelling ways, it has weird jump scares, dancing, wonderful performances, great cinematography. It's a good, fun movie. Which is almost always left out of the conversation with the film, because everyone wants to discuss how "important" it is. Imagine if we did the same thing about, say, Jaws, and only talked about how important of a movie it is, and never once described it for it's elements--fun, adventurous, scary, funny, weird, and surprisingly bloody. So when I see the "K" cover, I can only think about how it has a made a movie that is regularly unseen because it sounds uncompelling, or dry, or boring, and has marked it with a cover that is dry, minimal, and uncompelling, based entirely around typography that is only really iconic to someone who's actually seen the movie. And at that, others have posted that there are other interesting K's in the film besides the one from the title card. So it's a fumble. It's just really weird, especially since Criterion's been doing arguably more interesting presentations of films in the past two or three years. I looked up the artist behind it, and he does interesting collage pieces, often not based around typography. I just don't really understand this design. Like, why not a collage of Kane at various ages, or at various iconic poses, in an interesting layout? Why not a design around the snow globe? Why not a design around the theater scene? Instead, it is a minimal design that many are calling lazy and uninspired, and I can't help but think a new film fan passing up on watching Citizen Kane because the box art makes it look like the cinematic equivalent of homework, a reputation it's been struggling to shake (in my world view) for decades now. edit: I actually like typography-based art, too, so really this should be working a lot more for me. Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 17, 2021 16:42
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it should have a lenticular cover of Welles clapping
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Aug 17, 2021 16:47
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In the past Criterion has adjusted cover art over the backlash from fans (I believe Some Like it Hot was one of them). I wonder if this might happen with Citizen Kane.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:58
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gey muckle mowser posted:it should have a lenticular cover of Welles clapping Colonel Whitey posted:The cover should be a little LED screen with the gif of Kane clapping 
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Aug 17, 2021 17:03
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I think part of what goes on with Citizen Kane is that it was critics and cinephiles who resurrected it and elevated it to the status it has today. In the 40s it kinda just came and went, it was a well liked film that was nominated for some awards but it wasn't some sort of game-changer where it took the film world by storm and everyone could remember the first time they saw Citizen Kane. It took time for the film to be properly evaluated and it's importance understood and so a lot of that was film nerds who were appreciating the technical aspects of the film, the things that feels stuffy and boring to a lot of people. It's just a different dynamic than what we had with something like Jaws or Star Wars where there was this pop culture phenomenon that cut across demographics and appealed to such a wide range of people. The rise of Citizen Kane as the consensus #1 film of all time(until 2012 when Vertigo took the title) was more of a discussion happening in film circles and not so much with regular people who get bored to tears hearing about framing and lighting and narrative structure and all that. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 17, 2021 17:08
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And the inevitable problem that causes is when non-cinephile people finally watch it for the first time with its reputation of "the best movie of all time" in their minds, it's bound to disappoint to some degree.
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Aug 17, 2021 17:11
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Spatulater bro! posted:In the past Criterion has adjusted cover art over the backlash from fans (I believe Some Like it Hot was one of them). I wonder if this might happen with Citizen Kane. drat I like the original one better. More movies should use giantess fetish photoshops as official coverart. 
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Aug 17, 2021 17:28
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Spatulater bro! posted:And the inevitable problem that causes is when non-cinephile people finally watch it for the first time with its reputation of "the best movie of all time" in their minds, it's bound to disappoint to some degree. And making a self-important "K" typography design is just continuing that. My point is, it was an opportunity to change the perspective on the film away from how it's defined by current pop culture as "important" to also include it as "fun, dramatic and interesting", and instead they leaned into it with a lazy, kind of haughty design.
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Aug 17, 2021 17:47
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Oops didn't see your post. great minds etc
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Aug 17, 2021 18:46
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A lot of black & white/foreign film has a reputation as being for joyless stick in the muds. I think Citizen Kane being trumpeted out to declare every video game or comic book or whatever as the serious important work of art also cemented that reputation, or is at least a symptom of that.
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Aug 17, 2021 18:56
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Gripweed posted:drat I like the original one better. More movies should use giantess fetish photoshops as official coverart. To be fair, that probably works better for Marilyn Monroe than Orson Welles.
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Aug 17, 2021 21:30
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Spatulater bro! posted:I'm not ordinarily one to complain about cover art, but I've gotta say that Citizen Kane art is abysmal. It's real bad.
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Aug 17, 2021 23:29
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still better than the Election cover
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Aug 18, 2021 00:24
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:It's real bad. I'm hoping they come around on changing it like they did with the cover for The Makioka Sisters (even though the original cover for that one wasn't too bad).
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Aug 18, 2021 00:24
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What was the original cover for that?
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Aug 18, 2021 01:04
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Samuel Clemens posted:What was the original cover for that? Had to go looking but I believe it was this... 
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Aug 18, 2021 01:54
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Macrame_God posted:Had to go looking but I believe it was this... within the cultural context i have absolutely no problem with that cover
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Aug 18, 2021 02:11
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Macrame_God posted:Had to go looking but I believe it was this... That just looks like the cover to a Haruki Murakami novel.
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Aug 18, 2021 02:33
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