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ethanol posted:lol you might be right, i think it's 5 days if it's a total. I didn't think there would be a difference between the 30 days rental reimbursement for repair and total... well poo poo... My wife's ex just had to go through this and yeah, after his was officially totalled, he had five days of rental from insurance
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ethanol posted:That’s not even enough time to get a check lmao Yo what up '21 Tacoma buddy  Sorry to hear about the loss, I waited 3 1/2 months for mine. Haven't even had it for a month yet. I hope you find something soon. After I dropped my deposit, I started looking around and found the same one as I ordered, but it was at a dealer a 2 day drive away. I strongly considered a plane ticket, a refund on my deposit and a cheque for the amount, but I decided against it. I don't know where you are, but I'll assume the US somewhere. Have you considered looking out of state? Inventories are low as I'm sure you know, but chances are some dealer has what you want, unless its a TRD pro model. I tried to get one of those, but they said that they were hard to come by, and even harder to find in Manual Trans.
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AmbassadorofSodomy posted:Yo what up '21 Tacoma buddy theres a few around, i can check whether they are still listed but recently sold by checking the vin on the toyota website. There's about 3 within 100 miles, but they're all 4 doors. Only one is on the lot and it's got 4k extra in options (probably sold by now actually, that was 3 days ago). it helps that i did this 3 months ago so i know what how to tell what's on the lots, but i dont have a check yet. 2 months ago, I looked for a long while and found the one I bought newly listed and on the lot. I could also find plenty of listed TRD offroads that were going to ship sometime in the 1-3 months after that. Now it's literally like 6 total listings in my entire area, and at least a couple of those sold last week. unfortunately zero access cabs. I might go crew cab anyways, I was pretty open to either option before. but yeah once I get confirmation of check being sent I will prob try to go put money down on a in transit '21 assuming there are any in like 1-2 weeks I still need to know what my insurance is going to offer Edit: I called around and most of the dealers seem to be in a semi crisis state over Toyota reducing production by 40% like two days ago or something. This is not my week lol ethanol fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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wolfs posted:also, a datapoint re: over MSRP cars. I’m in Austin, TX getting an oil change and I walked through the dealer’s lot — they have exactly one Honda Insight and it’s selling for $26,005 - $995 over the $25,010 MSRP. For 52 mpg! hybrids are insane Sorry for thread necromancy, replying to a post from two months ago, but I wanted to mention my indirect experience with a 2019 Honda Insight Touring Edition.. I didn't buy it myself, but a friend of mine went through the usual shenanigans at a Honda dealer somewhere in Jersey and wound up with one. She was negotiating for a 2021 standard model but by some happenstance 'a 2019 Touring Edition just showed up at the lot' and they made her jump through the usual hoops (cash down, negotiate, more cash down) but the car somehow didn't physically appear until 2-3 days later. Think they were giving her a special price, like only $24-25K since it was pre-owned, but the specs on the car seemed to suspiciously match a 2019 Insight TE I saw on Carvana just the day before, right down to the color. I suspect they somehow got it off Carvana then made her do a song and dance financially until they could get it delivered.. bur they gave it "Certified Pre-Owned" license plate fillers so maybe it came from another lot or distributor.. When she finally drove it off the lot, I got to hang out with her for about a week and a half, and I was super-impressed. It came with CarPlay, heated seats, steerable heated mirrors, had GPS support, power moon roof, rear view camera, separate lights for passenger / back seats, and a bunch of other features I only glimpsed. CarPlay was really cool because it treated both my iPhone and hers as equals and just a simple standard USB-A cable allowed us to play music from our respective phones with no fuss or muss other than a seconds-long pause to recognize each phone. It even kept records of what phones were connected to it (seems one of the former owners was somebody named Stymie?!) It also had this feature where it would auto-lock all the doors if you got more than 5 ft. away from the car for 30 seconds (probably RF chips embedded in the keys) and one of the info screens on the central console showed when the car was getting power from batteries / gas engine / charging batteries and a constant display of MPG / range left the car could drive; there's a government pamphlet where they highlighted the Insight as being one of the better choices you could get for a hybrid, and claimed that you could go from NYC to Montreal on one tank of gas with this car. I believe it, as in all the driving we did over the course of like 4-5 days the fuel gauge went down like two pips and there's like 14-16 pips total? My pal said that it wasn't the greatest in terms of acceleration, if you're looking to race people at the light you're gonna lose a lot of the time, but it is super capable of great highway driving and she got it up to ludicrous speeds after a while (the top speed on the speedometer is 160..) Trunk is roomy, seats are comfortable.. One of the more unusual things is that Honda doesn't include a spare tire (!!) Instead they include a kit that has an air pump with a sealant canister inside a special case that also includes a pressure gauge.. you hook up the kit to your tire, then the lighter socket, start the car, then throw a switch and presumably the canister inflates the tire and also sprays a sealant into the tire that is supposed to be good for holes in the tire up to 3/8ths of an inch on the tread. It's no good for a sidewall puncture as they indicate. I looked and found that there are third parties on Amazon that will sell you a spare tire kit for the Insight, and the car even has a well for the spare under the trunk like most cars but for some reason they don't populate it.. maybe because it's just dead weight and they think including one would hurt the efficiency of the car, give 'em this weird rear end repair kit? If anyone has questions about this old Insight feel free to ask, I'll answer to the best of my recollection.. about the only other thing that's super cool is that it's relatively silent when it's on battery drive; the only sound the car makes when in battery is like this really low pipe organ sound; I likened it to having a chill Greek chorus following you around, she said it was more like a really deep church organ.. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Binary Badger posted:One of the more unusual things is that Honda doesn't include a spare tire (!!) This is increasingly common. A spare tire is heavy, and weight impacts everything, including MPG. Consider that for most vehicles with temporary use spares, all the spare is supposed to do is save you the cost of towing to a tire shop. If you've got a really long drive to the tire shop or a really old spare, driving on it once might be all it needs to wear out completely so you get to replace it too.
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IOwnCalculus posted:This is increasingly common. A spare tire is heavy, and weight impacts everything, including MPG. Consider that for most vehicles with temporary use spares, all the spare is supposed to do is save you the cost of towing to a tire shop. If you've got a really long drive to the tire shop or a really old spare, driving on it once might be all it needs to wear out completely so you get to replace it too. Fusion hybrids have the same deal - a pump and a can of fixaflat - rather than an actual spare. On that note, when I bought my Accord coupe new in 2017, Honda sent me several questionnaires asking a zillion questions about every part of the car and the buying experience*, like most carmakers do. There must have been, no poo poo, 25 questions about spare tires. ‘Rate the importance of a full-sized spare’. ‘Would you pay extra for a full-sized spare?’ Have you ever used a space-saver spare tire?’ Over and over again. So there’s definitely some debate about that sort of thing going on at Honda of America. *Car is kick-rear end, dealership are scumfuck shysters and need to be fed into a branch chipper.
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I've become increasingly convinced that, especially if you don't own a new-ish car, the only spare worth a drat is a full size spare that gets included in your regular rotation. I've seen more than a few 20+ year old cars toting around some form of temporary use spare, with no signs of use. It's literally been hauled hundreds of thousands of miles to do nothing, and at that point it's so old and dry rotted it might not even survive being fully inflated. Or as the case was with the spare on my Ranger, about fifteen miles at slow speeds. Otherwise give me a can of Fix-A-Flat, or no spare at all and roadside assistance.
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On the other hand in the three years I've had it, I've had to replace 3 tires on the stinger and had to use the space saver twice. loving Buffalo roads.
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IOwnCalculus posted:I've become increasingly convinced that, especially if you don't own a new-ish car, the only spare worth a drat is a full size spare that gets included in your regular rotation. I've seen more than a few 20+ year old cars toting around some form of temporary use spare, with no signs of use. It's literally been hauled hundreds of thousands of miles to do nothing, and at that point it's so old and dry rotted it might not even survive being fully inflated. You're actually supposed to replace your spare. I have used my spare on both cars once with a hosed wheel which no fix flat would have fixed.. The main reason I want a spare is that I drive through some remote areas. If I can get cell service, I'll still have to wait hours for a tow rather than 15 minutes changing the tie.
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nm posted:You're actually supposed to replace your spare. Mostly it just bugs me that on my last two trucks (said Ranger, my Canyon) despite having room for a full-size spare, it's still a lovely "temporary use only" tire that'll be trash if I have to use it. All so they could save a few bucks on a steel wheel and a tire that's probably lighter because it's thinner. One of the never-used spares I found once was an expanding donut in a 280ZX. Good luck finding a replacement for that. And if you're in remote areas where a tow is infeasible / impossible? That sounds like a strong argument to upgrade to a full-size spare with a proper tire on it.
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nm posted:You're actually supposed to replace your spare. Have you got an InReach or similar satellite thing?
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No. It isn't like I'm going into the wilds, but highway 1 in northern CA has no cell spots and only like 2-3 towns with a tow truck.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Mostly it just bugs me that on my last two trucks (said Ranger, my Canyon) despite having room for a full-size spare, it's still a lovely "temporary use only" tire that'll be trash if I have to use it. All so they could save a few bucks on a steel wheel and a tire that's probably lighter because it's thinner. That’s total bullshit on a truck, as there’s always room for a proper spare under the bed. What if you’re fully loaded, or towing?
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Wouldn't the dealer sell you a full size OEM spare for a healthy markup? I've never bought a new car from a dealer but that's how I thought it worked.
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JnnyThndrs posted:On that note, when I bought my Accord coupe new in 2017, Honda sent me several questionnaires asking a zillion questions about every part of the car and the buying experience*, like most carmakers do. My favorite part of that survey was Mazda defining what "fun to drive" meant: 
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So I'm in the market to replace my ATS 3.6 and I've very much enjoyed this car in the 5 years I've had it. It has fantastic handling, it's been reliable, comfortable, and the styling has really grown on me. My only complaint is I wish it had more power. Given that, I'm primarily interested in a couple of its big brothers, the ATS V and the CTS V-Sport but I'm having a hard time choosing between them. Here's my pros and cons list, let me know what you think. Feel free to recommend alternatives, but I'm not all that inclined to go with the Germans for reason of reliability concerns. I may have gotten lucky but my ATS has been almost flawless and my last car, a Volvo S60R was a huge money pit. ATS-V Pros - Smaller - Lighter (barely) - Slightly better handling? - Slightly faster - Manual transmission available - Looks awesome - Familiar and comfortable - Rare Cons - More expensive for similar year/mileage - More conspicuous - No cooled seats - Higher strung = less reliable? - Will probably get more speeding tickets - Back seats for gnomes CTS V-Sport Pros - Cheaper - Probably more comfortable - Sleeper - Cooled seats - More reliable? - Still looks cool - Functional back seats - Larger trunk Cons - Larger - Heavier (barely) - Slightly worse handling? - Slightly slower I'm somewhat leaning towards the CTS V-sport largely based on price, since I can get a newer, lower mileage one. I know for a lot of AI types the manual transmission would decide this in a heartbeat but I've never actually owned a manual. I've driven a couple and liked it, but I'm almost 40 now and I'm not sure I want to learn how to drive one properly after this long. I've never tracked a car before and I'd certainly be tempted with the ATS-V, but that will only be feasible without a sunroof since my head brushes the headliner on my current ATS. Feel free to explain why both of these are terrible and I should get an M3.
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I'm not an expert on this but I feel like the ATS-V would probably be more reliable considering how overbuilt the engine and cooling system are. https://jalopnik.com/the-cadillac-ats-vs-cooling-system-is-a-masterpiece-of-1787045357
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm not an expert on this but I feel like the ATS-V would probably be more reliable considering how overbuilt the engine and cooling system are. Speaking of M3's, BMW M cars do the same thing with the cooler flush with the body pan and it's loving terrifying because you're one piece of road debris from dumping your oil all over the highway at 70 mph. At least in the Caddy, it's the trans cooler and not the engine oil cooler like in M cars.
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I would recommend you learn to drive manual proficiently before committing to a high-powered performance car. First, there is a danger of you getting very familiar with barriers and telephone poles. And a lesser danger of you just not liking it, and scrambling to sell while taking a loss.
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Counterpoint - I learned to drive stick by buying a Focus RS and needing to get it home and I'm still alive  I'm also a moron
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Given that, I'm primarily interested in a couple of its big brothers, the ATS V and the CTS V-Sport but I'm having a hard time choosing between them. Here's my pros and cons list, let me know what you think. Feel free to recommend alternatives, but I'm not all that inclined to go with the Germans for reason of reliability concerns. I may have gotten lucky but my ATS has been almost flawless and my last car, a Volvo S60R was a huge money pit. fundamentally the ATS-V is a special car and the CTS V-sport is a fancier trim CTS, so that would decide it for me.
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The next step up from that ATS would be something with a turbocharged 6-cylinder engine, e.g. BMW 340i, Audi S4/S5, Infiniti Q50, Genesis G70 3.3TT. If you don't want something German, the Genesis will likely be your best bet. If you want more rear seat and cargo capacity than these cars offer, the Kia Stinger is worth considering as well. My wildcard is that if you don't use your rear seats often, which might be the case since you're already in an ATS, think about a current-gen Mustang GT or Camaro SS with the 10-speed.
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I finally got my total loss offer and it’s what I paid the dealer two months ago (msrp and tax) + about $2k. So hopefully I can find another dealer that will honor msrp… after I wait another unknown time for the check. $2k will also likely cover the average “market adjustment” starting to crop up around here as well. ethanol fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 26, 2021 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:fundamentally the ATS-V is a special car and the CTS V-sport is a fancier trim CTS, so that would decide it for me.
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Overall I think I'll most likely go with the CTS V-Sport for price reasons as at the moment it's about 5-8k cheaper for same year/mileage. That said, I'm not buying yet as the used car market is still jacked up so perhaps the ATS-V will come down enough to be more manageable. I want to say when I was looking at them a year ago (and wasn't ready to buy) I was seeing them around 35k while now you're lucky to find one for 40k. My heart definitely prefers the ATS-V but my head is pushing me towards the V-sport.
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Godzilla07 posted:The next step up from that ATS would be something with a turbocharged 6-cylinder engine, e.g. BMW 340i, Audi S4/S5, Infiniti Q50, Genesis G70 3.3TT. If you don't want something German, the Genesis will likely be your best bet. If you want more rear seat and cargo capacity than these cars offer, the Kia Stinger is worth considering as well. From what I've read none of the sedans you recommended handle as well as the ATS-V or CTS V-sport. The mustang isn't a bad option but I'm really looking for a sedan. The Camaro is what the CTS V-sport should have been, alpha platform with an LS, but again I have specific reasons for preferring a sedan and I couldn't drive a Camaro, I like to be able to see out of my car. Nitrox posted:I would recommend you learn to drive manual proficiently before committing to a high-powered performance car. First, there is a danger of you getting very familiar with barriers and telephone poles. And a lesser danger of you just not liking it, and scrambling to sell while taking a loss. It's funny you say that, because I see a lot of recommendations for learning to drive manual on a powerful car since it's harder to stall it. The ATS-V also has auto rev-matching so it's kind of easy mode. I know I like driving manual, I've done it a fair bit on my parents' cars, but I just don't know that I would want to live with it every day. Add to that the fact that even if I was good at driving manual (which I'm not) the manual is slower than the auto so I'm somewhat inclined to skip it. Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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you'd be having too much fun to notice, and i doubt you're a good enough driver that the transmission would be your lap time limiting factor
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:It's funny you say that, because I see a lot of recommendations for learning to drive manual on a powerful car since it's harder to stall it. I mean....kinda? What kind of "high power"? Most proper sports cars have like zero torque down low, with expensive labor and clutches. Most old pickups have mounds of torque down low with a sloppy easy clutch and are very forgiving to learn on. I learned to "drive stick" (work a cultch) on a tractor. With a two part clutch at that....PTO then drive wheels. If you screwed up more than half the time it wouldn't stall, it would buck and throw you off the back so you needed to run after it. Motronic fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Aug 27, 2021 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:you'd be having too much fun to notice, and i doubt you're a good enough driver that the transmission would be your lap time limiting factor Valid point, and I'm absolutely not. Motronic posted:Most proper sports cars have like zero torque down low, with expensive labor and clutches. Most old pickups have mounds of torque down low with a sloppy easy clutch and are very forgiving to learn on. I learned to "drive stick" (work a cultch) on a tractor. With a two part clutch at that....PTO then drive wheels. I'm mostly speaking in comparison to the low power 4 cylinder manuals I've driven before. That said, the last time I drove one I don't think I stalled it, but it's been at least 5 years. I'm glad I won't be re-learning on a tractor though, that sounds like a great way to get eaten by the PTO.
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You should probably at least try a M340i, realistically the Cadillac isn't actually going to handle better than an M-ish BMW and it also has the advantage of looking nice.
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knox_harrington posted:M340i... has the advantage of looking nice. it's better looking than the full fat M cars but I don't think anyone would really mistake it for an attractive design. On the other hand the CTS-Vsport just is kind of awkward with the tacked on Vsport package bits. If OP cares at all about resale the ATS-V manual is probably likely to hold BaT resale a lot better than the CTS-Vsport
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Yeah semi nostrils rather than the full nostril M look. Definitely needs a dark colour to look ok. https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/bmw-m340-kombi-2021-neues-fahrzeug?vehid=8633564
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knox_harrington posted:You should probably at least try a M340i, realistically the Cadillac isn't actually going to handle better than an M-ish BMW and it also has the advantage of looking nice. Since I think you're an EU poster, yes, it is hard to believe, but Cadillac really did build a car that drives as well as a classic 3 Series. I've driven the sixth-gen Camaro, which shares a platform with those Cadillacs, and the Alpha chassis is that good. These cars are very confidence-inspiring with how fluid and composed they are when driven hard on a back road. The steering is also on point, which I found to be a sore spot on older GM performance cars. The problem with the first-gen Alpha platform cars is that the interiors suck to live with. The entire center stack on the ATS and CTS is touch buttons, and the Camaro's visibility is borderline unsafe without blind-spot monitoring. Interior packaging is also an afterthought on these cars.
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knox_harrington posted:You should probably at least try a M340i, realistically the Cadillac isn't actually going to handle better than an M-ish BMW and it also has the advantage of looking nice. Motor trend and car and driver both think the ATS-V handles better than the same generation M3. As for style, I won't deny I like BMWs of that generation, but an M3 is more expensive and as I stated at the beginning I don't want a German car for cost of ownership reasons. Godzilla07 is correct that the only major problems with the ATS-V and CTS V-Sport are interior related, but I've lived with an ATS for 5 years and it doesn't bother me.
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HAPTIC FEEDBACK BABY CUE is an abomination, but hell if you've gotten used to it you can get used to anything
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:HAPTIC FEEDBACK BABY Yeah it's bad. Honestly what annoys me the most about it is keeping it from looking terrible. I keep plastic cleaner and microfiber in my center console but it's still a PITA to keep it clean. I cross shopped this against an Audi S4 originally and the interior on that was obviously worlds better. It was also faster, more comfortable and better looking. I went with the ATS because it handles better, rides better, and was slightly cheaper. Concerns about German costs of ownership were a significant factor as well. I think I made the right decision. I've had only one non-maintenance failure on this car which was, surprise surprise, the CUE system touch screen. It was covered under CPO warranty. Otherwise no significant issues and the maintenance costs have been fairly reasonable even at the dealership.
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I'm glad I posted in here. I kind of had my mind made up before I did and was planning to buy a CTS V-Sport despite the ATS-V being the car I really wanted. Now I think I'm going to hold off for several months until pricing comes down a bit (average pricing for Cadillac sedans is up $6k right now) then pick up an ATS-V. Thanks goons!
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