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Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/7wFedc6.mp4

i like to think one of two things happened here

the person hit the first barrier, noticed people around and said 'gently caress it im commited now, let's just get out of here' and then proceeded to just drive like they were in a comedy movie

or they had no clue what was going on, and thought this was completely normal and why is everyone else sitting here waiting? look at this wide open lane weeeeeeeee oh boy free halloween decorations too

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sigher: Apr 22, 2008; My guiding Moonlight...

devmd01 posted:

No no no, Kobe beef is transported in helicopters.

This is the best post since the taconite one. lol

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The Wiggly Wizard: Aug 21, 2008

The Real Amethyst posted:

Personal OSHA. A coworker lowered a hydraulic tail lift rated for 800kg on my toe. Thankfully it stopped before doing any damage. I felt my steel toe warp, looked down and yelled STOP.

my favourite pair of magnum boots.

I�ve heard many doofuses at safety meetings make the claim that steel toes are designed to sever your toes cleanly so you can escape vs soft toes letting your foot get crushed and pinning you in place to suffer and I guess die? Anyone else heard this whopper before?

# ? Aug 19, 2021 06:57

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

I have heard it before and yes, it's a whopper. Like the claims that the airplane bracing position is designed to kill you instantly to reduce the airline's payout in medical bills, or that seatbelts will decapitate you or trap you inside a burning car and it's safer to get thrown out of the vehicle.

IIRC there have been cases where the steel toe of a boot got crushed by an enormous weight, collapsed, and "cut" the person's toes off, but the force required to do that would have turned the person's toes into paste no matter what.

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MisterOblivious: Mar 17, 2010; by sebmojo

Cartoon Man posted:

https://i.imgur.com/DDjGJCo.mp4

All 3 are race cars

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The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

I have heard, though the version told to me is clean cut and able to be reattached vs turned into jam.

# ? Aug 19, 2021 07:11

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Platystemon posted:

Grady made a video about the Florida condominium collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgz5Xq4GUio

This comment is more interesting, though:

quote:
Some draft parts of reports have been leaked: A late design change for the building removed a large stepdown, and planter boxes from the pool deck near the main building. Cross beams under the pool deck to disperse the load to adjacent columns were removed, and the support columns under pool deck were reduced in size. None of that is an issue - it was a conscious and correctly calculated design change to reduce building complexity and save some money. However, a much later uplift added the planter boxes, changed the parking layout, and added new flooring to the pool deck. This design seems erroneously based on the older drawings and not the as built drawings. Whoever did this work apparently never bothered to check the column size nor notice the beams were missing. They added static load which brought the deck to near 100% of its code rating, and its was only mostly by luck at how the code as a little bit over engineered that the building didn't collapse when this work was done. The water leakage slightly weakend it, and is ultimately the trigger. Just one column failing at the pool deck brings down most of the building. This is because each column relies on the ones around it to help support the floor, and once a neighboring one goes, the floor will not hold at the next column, and now the column is twice as high without cross support, causing it to buckle. And this failure will radiate out to each column, collapsing all of them.

Rescuing this post from end-of-page oblivion because :stare:

# ? Aug 19, 2021 07:16

Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

https://i.imgur.com/SimlrMs.mp4

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Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Rescuing this post from end-of-page oblivion because

I don't know enough to speak to the accuracy, but this seems like a nice dive into the engineering drawings and what the likely causes of the collapse were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaZcyq7YsNA

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HarmB: Jun 19, 2006

Jabor posted:

I don't know enough to speak to the accuracy, but this seems like a nice dive into the engineering drawings and what the likely causes of the collapse were:

I feel like if you can't get the tracking right for the first few seconds of your video that doesn't bode well for your attention to detail.

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Beef: Jul 26, 2004

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/SimlrMs.mp4

Don't post porn here, man

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Cartoon Man: Jan 31, 2004

https://i.imgur.com/WhMkSWG.gifv

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Cartoon Man: Jan 31, 2004

https://i.imgur.com/fGons52.gifv

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AutismVaccine: Feb 26, 2017; SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

Kith posted:

Who uses drywall screws for that?
Torx screws and a longer bit, no need for all that fancy stuff. you can angle that poo poo like 30�

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PainterofCrap: Oct 17, 2002; hey bebe

AutismVaccine posted:

you can angle that poo poo like 30�

# ? Aug 19, 2021 14:53

PhotoKirk: Jul 2, 2007; insert witty text here

AutismVaccine posted:

Who uses drywall screws for that?
Torx screws and a longer bit, no need for all that fancy stuff. you can angle that poo poo like 30�

UGH.

I had to tear down and rebuild shelves that a former co-worker build out of 2x4s and plywood. Every screw was a 3" drywall screw that was stripped out. I ended up doing a lot of cutting.

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Deteriorata: Feb 6, 2005

AutismVaccine posted:

Who uses drywall screws for that?
Torx screws and a longer bit, no need for all that fancy stuff. you can angle that poo poo like 30�

Mattias Wandel has done a bunch of videos of holding power of various screws, and drywall screws always win by a mile. They're terrific for woodworking if you're not gluing it up. They're all he uses.

They come with many different head types.

# ? Aug 19, 2021 15:01

Source4Leko: Jul 25, 2007; Dinosaur Gum

Drywall screws own for building anything that won't get wet. I used to build theater sets and that's literally all we used and all I use at home for general use.

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The Wiggly Wizard: Aug 21, 2008

The Lone Badger posted:

I have heard, though the version told to me is clean cut and able to be reattached vs turned into jam.

Yeah I�ve heard that too. Sounds equally implausible.

The baby rattlesnake urban legend also gets a fair amount of play at safety meetings/first aid trainings.

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Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Deteriorata posted:

Mattias Wandel has done a bunch of videos of holding power of various screws, and drywall screws always win by a mile. They're terrific for woodworking if you're not gluing it up. They're all he uses.

They come with many different head types.

They�re too brittle.

They can put up good numbers in a benchmark, but in any complex structure that brittleness is a liability and the structures as a whole is more secure with wood screws or construction screws.

# ? Aug 19, 2021 15:27

down1nit: Jan 10, 2004; outlive your enemies

Source4Leko posted:

Drywall screws own for building anything that won't get wet. I used to build theater sets and that's literally all we used and all I use at home for general use.

Guess you don't need a source for lekos anymore.

# ? Aug 19, 2021 15:30

Monkey Fracas: Sep 11, 2010; ...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!; Grimey Drawer

Is torx vs phillips drive type a manufacturing cost consideration anymore?

gently caress mr phillips and his bad screw heads

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Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

`Nemesis posted:

The recommended installtion instructions on mailboxes like that include sinking a thick, square post down about two feet and anchoring it with concrete. If some did it to those instructions, I would be surprised at their mailbox supporting a semi.

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goatsestretchgoals: Jun 4, 2011

Monkey Fracas posted:

gently caress mr phillips and his bad screw heads

at least you can use a flathead screwdriver as an improvised prybar or chisel. philips screwdrivers are good for one thing: stripping philips screws

# ? Aug 19, 2021 16:33

Sammus: Nov 30, 2005

goatsestretchgoals posted:

at least you can use a flathead screwdriver as an improvised prybar or chisel. philips screwdrivers are good for one thing: stripping philips screws

They make pretty good shivs too!

# ? Aug 19, 2021 16:37

Harry_Potato: May 21, 2021

Platystemon posted:

They�re too brittle.

They can put up good numbers in a benchmark, but in any complex structure that brittleness is a liability and the structures as a whole is more secure with wood screws or construction screws.

Shear strength on drywall screws is sub optimal. Not bad for putting sheet goods on a frame or positioning but for anything where they see a shear load, there are much better choices. I have a scar to prove that...

# ? Aug 19, 2021 16:41

Monkey Fracas: Sep 11, 2010; ...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!; Grimey Drawer

Sammus posted:

They make pretty good shivs too!

philips heads are everywhere in the US so it's v hard to prove premeditated murder

now those miscreants carrying around Roberston drivers...

# ? Aug 19, 2021 16:50

Enoch Root: Aug 28, 2007

iroc.dis posted:

Haven't seen that before. Is there a benefit to doing it that way? I could see lower cost since you aren't having to buy so much drat Q-decking.

Yes it is indeed cheaper since you�re re using the tables for the next floor up so for towers it�s great!

It can also be a lot faster, as an example I am currently working on a 32 storey tower and they are pouring a new floor every 4(!) days:

Day 0: floor pour day!

Day 1: vertical day! (pouring concrete for columns and walls)

Day 2: table day! (Removing the tables from below and flying them up to form the next floor)

Day 3: trade day! (Rebar, sleeves for plumbers, conduit for sparkies etc.)

Day 4: another floor pour day!

As an aside the process of flying tables is sketchy as all hell since they have to very carefully slide them out from underneath the floor so the tower crane can actually access it.

# ? Aug 19, 2021 18:07

Uthor: Jul 9, 2006; Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Enoch Root posted:

As an aside the process of flying tables is sketchy as all hell since they have to very carefully slide them out from underneath the floor so the tower crane can actually access it.

So, Jenga?

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