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slinkimalinki posted:New Zealand doesn't need you to visit. The world is not your playground. My concerns were already answered. Thanks for the assumptions, hopefully putting me in my place makes you feel better.
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Got vaccinated earlier this month but lucked out and caught covid a few days before., symptoms didn't hit until a day after my first vaccine. I wasn't ever a anti vaxxer, I just sort of have been watching the cases from the spring into the summer trend downwards, so I was just continuing to wear my mask and hope for the best, thinking the numbers trending downwards at that time was a sign of the end, finally. When Delta first started making the rounds it got my attention, and into maybe a few weeks of it I decided to get my shot so I scheduled it and ended up getting it on August the 5th, my first shot of Pfizer vaccine. A day afterwards I started to feel crappy, I was thinking maybe it was just a crap shot of people who have that kind of reaction to the second shot but it was just affecting me for the first one, anyways my work wanted me to get tested so I did, came back positive and over the course of the next week got really loving sick, like for about 5 days there it was very tough. I had a video visit with my doctor, he told me the warning signs to look for if I was going to go to the ER and to monitor my blood oxygen levels, after about 4 days of being really bad off my doctor put me in for antibody infusion treatment, and about the next day after getting that done I admit it was the first I started to feel better, it's been slow on the mend since then so I'm just sort of taking things day by day, only thing that really concerns me is my resting heart rate seems to be elevated, maybe 10-15 bpm over what it would normally be even resting in bed, sitting up, walking, or the light duty I tried to get on my exercise bike and move my legs a bit. I'm not sure how hosed I am in terms of this, I called my health insurance and they have a nurse line I can speak to for free, I described my situation and concerns and they didn't really seem all that worried about it. Work wants me to return since I'm not showing symptoms, and while I'm ready to return to work, I'm now sort of afraid of getting myself hosed up by overdoing it. Light duty really doesn't exist in my line of work. Also sort of interested in if my first shot of vaccine was 'useless' since I legit caught covid and it just didn't hit until I was vaccinated, and due to the antibody infusion I have to wait 90 days before I can get my second vaccine shot.
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Aug 19, 2021 15:51
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latinotwink1997 posted:My concerns were already answered. Thanks for the assumptions, hopefully putting me in my place makes you feel better. I'm pretty sure that like 99,98 % of Australians and New Zealanders would be perfectly okay if both countries kept the proverbial drawbridge pulled up even long after COVID becomes manageable. Goons going from zero to "gently caress off mate, we're full" to your pretty normal question is also 
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Hey Georgia, im next door in Florida can i have one of those for my 3rd and get it out of the way. gently caress
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Aug 19, 2021 15:59
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slinkimalinki posted:Sorry you live in a failed state, but other countries are allowed to do better. A country that believes it's good or legal to strand its own citizens outside the country is not a shining example of a functional state.
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Aug 19, 2021 16:00
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1428095680317382663?s=20 This might be the time IN MY LIFETIME where I support the Federal government interfering in State issues in an extremely aggressive manner
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iroguebot posted:Got vaccinated earlier this month but lucked out and caught covid a few days before., symptoms didn't hit until a day after my first vaccine. I’m sure you will get poo poo on here for posting this, but sorry you got the bad roll of the dice. Looking back at it, can you say how safe you were really being with mask usage? We’re you wearing it all day at a physical job? Hanging out in houses/restaurants with people? Choosing to not get vaccinated ASAP seems so crazy, to me.
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Aug 19, 2021 16:08
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iroguebot posted:Also sort of interested in if my first shot of vaccine was 'useless' since I legit caught covid and it just didn't hit until I was vaccinated, and due to the antibody infusion I have to wait 90 days before I can get my second vaccine shot. On the bright side, once you get that second jab and add the vaxx antibodies to your 'natural' antibodies you'll have some of the highest efficacy protection against re-infection
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Aug 19, 2021 16:22
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Galewolf posted:I'm pretty sure that like 99,98 % of Australians and New Zealanders would be perfectly okay if both countries kept the proverbial drawbridge pulled up even long after COVID becomes manageable. They can have that attitude, but I remain convinced that COVID is here to stay. There's no eradication end-game, only learning to live with it. Thankfully the vaccines are phenomenally good at keeping people from getting hospitalized and dying, and once those are fully distributed across the world COVID will end up as just another seasonal virus we have to live with. Lockdowns have worked for New Zealand, not for Australia, but they certainly won't and can't work forever. I suspect that as the vaccination rates in those countries head up towards 70-80% the public at large will begin to accept the inevitability of living with COVID, and they'll open back up. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/19/up-to-100-may-already-be-infected-in-new-zealand-covid-outbreak-modelling-says quote:New Zealand’s coronavirus cluster has grown to 21, with a strong link discovered to a case at the border, as the country began day two of a national lockdown.
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MrQwerty posted:This might be the time IN MY LIFETIME where I support the Federal government interfering in State issues in an extremely aggressive manner MrQwerty posted:extremely aggressive I hate to break it to you but ... https://twitter.com/RandyOnEd/status/1428100056029224963
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Aug 19, 2021 16:25
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:On the bright side, once you get that second jab and add the vaxx antibodies to your 'natural' antibodies you'll have some of the highest efficacy protection against re-infection .. from the current variant. Very likely the next variant will not have significant cross immunity from previous infection. Glad you are recovering and will be getting fully vaxx'd.
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How are u posted:They can have that attitude, but I remain convinced that COVID is here to stay. There's no eradication end-game, only learning to live with it. Thankfully the vaccines are phenomenally good at keeping people from getting hospitalized and dying, and once those are fully distributed across the world COVID will end up as just another seasonal virus we have to live with. I have accepted that this is how things will be going forward, because all signs seem to point to this. I'm hoping booster shots are very effective.
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Aug 19, 2021 16:26
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Are New Zealanders now clamoring to get the Vax? In Canada we did a semi-ok job locking down which created a lot of desire for the shot so we can move on. I couldn't imagine doing as fantastic a job as NZ and then shrugging at the vaccine.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I hate to break it to you but ... I mean, can you blame me for getting my hopes up after how aggressively Desnatis and Abbott have been murdering children? It doesn't mention those two states tho MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Purgatory Glory posted:Are New Zealanders now clamoring to get the Vax? In Canada we did a semi-ok job locking down which created a lot of desire for the shot so we can move on. I couldn't imagine doing as fantastic a job as NZ and then shrugging at the vaccine. Both Canada and New Zealand are free from Murdoch-owned media, so I expect NZ to have a vaccine rate much more like Canada than the US or Oz.
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Aug 19, 2021 16:32
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How are u posted:They can have that attitude, but I remain convinced that COVID is here to stay. There's no eradication end-game, only learning to live with it. Thankfully the vaccines are phenomenally good at keeping people from getting hospitalized and dying, and once those are fully distributed across the world COVID will end up as just another seasonal virus we have to live with. The official Australian government four phase plan is to raise the vaccination rates up to a point where the continual ongoing covid illnesses & deaths only ever get as bad as an influenza outbreak and then "just live with it". Borders will be open but travelers from high risk countries will have to quarantine on entry. quote:The fourth and final phase of the government's four-step plan sees things as "normal" as possible, with international borders finally set to open back up. Edit: whether they'll actually be able to get the vaxx rate high enough is another thing altogether
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iroguebot posted:I'm not sure how hosed I am in terms of this, I called my health insurance and they have a nurse line I can speak to for free, I described my situation and concerns and they didn't really seem all that worried about it. Work wants me to return since I'm not showing symptoms, and while I'm ready to return to work, I'm now sort of afraid of getting myself hosed up by overdoing it. Light duty really doesn't exist in my line of work. quote:Also sort of interested in if my first shot of vaccine was 'useless' since I legit caught covid and it just didn't hit until I was vaccinated, and due to the antibody infusion I have to wait 90 days before I can get my second vaccine shot.
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tagesschau posted:A country that believes it's good or legal to strand its own citizens outside the country is not a shining example of a functional state. A bit of Googling confirms that New Zealand citizens can reenter the country any time they want, so why did you post this?
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Aug 19, 2021 16:42
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MrQwerty posted:I mean, can you blame me for getting my hopes up after how aggressively Desnatis and Abbott have been murdering children? Apparently they already got letters, here's an article about Texas: quote:Last week, U.S. Education Secretary Miguel A. Cardona sent Abbott and Texas Education Agency Commissioner Mike Morath a letter expressing support for local school districts that have implemented mask mandates. Oooooh they politely reminded them of the "fiscal requirements" oooooooooooooooooh they mad
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Aug 19, 2021 16:43
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If they tried to actually force a mask mandate it would get shot down regardless but I mean at least they are trying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIPSvIz9NDs&t=39s
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Fedora Guy got the roni real bad   https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/19/jerry-messing-fedora-guy-covid-ventilator-freaks-and-geeks/
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Fedora Guy got the roni real bad single dose vaccinated
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QuarkJets posted:A bit of Googling confirms that New Zealand citizens can reenter the country any time they want, so why did you post this? A bit of Googling confirms that some people have been trying to return to New Zealand for months. The New Zealand government is clearly in no rush to help its citizens exercise their right to enter the country.
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arnt the vax rates relatively low in NZ and OZ because they pulled up the drawbridge and relied on isolating?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I hate to break it to you but ... Oh no Not LETTERS
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numberoneposter posted:arnt the vax rates relatively low in NZ and OZ because they pulled up the drawbridge and relied on isolating? No, like most of the rest of the world they do not have an adequate supply of vaccines. Somehow most Americans, when discussing any other country exclaims "Why don't they get vaccinated what is wrong with them??!", while tossing millions of doses in the garbage. 
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Oh no Sternly written letters, I'm sure. The letter: -Pwease no ban mask mandandes uwu, pwetty pwease President Man
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So what exactly do you think Federal government can do? This is a total no win situation. Its major power here is fiscal and we’ve already seen Republican run states are happy to refuse money (see: ACA). Crackbone fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Oh no DOE already said they'll replace salaries at any school where DeSantis strips that funding away for taking COVID precautions
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I know I posted this before but... these same people waving signs screaming "My body my choice!!" are the exact same demographic who are mouth-frothingly against abortions. The irony would be hilarious, except for the fact that, ya know, we're all gonna die.
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They know that. It's not like they came up with it at random. They're saying it on purpose because they feel it reveals the hypocrisy on the other side.
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gently caress you antivaxxers, you're the villains https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1428104545641631744?s=20
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How effective are the shots right now? 3 ladies I work with had both doses of phizer and got knocked out for over a week with corona. I have both of the moderna shots and work in the same building.
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Still pretty effective from what we can tell (exact numbers are all over the map though), but there's so much delta out there now that the risks are high for everyone.
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Is getting a hair cut a bad idea if I'm vaxxed? I'm guessing most any place I go to there's like a 50/50 chance here that they'd even wear a mask since I live in a dumb red state.
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Does concentration of virus have an effect on whether it "breaks through" the vaccine? I work for a school system and we're all masked up, but sitting in a room/building all day makes me wonder if that raises the chances of a breakthrough. And just as an aside, holy poo poo has this completely destroyed multiple school years of education now. I am teaching 2nd graders who have not been in school since the end of kindergarten and they've just lost everything.
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spacetoaster posted:Does concentration of virus have an effect on whether it "breaks through" the vaccine?
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spacetoaster posted:How effective are the shots right now? How old and fat are those ladies?
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spacetoaster posted:How effective are the shots right now? If they didn’t die, that’s technically a success Ginette Reno posted:Is getting a hair cut a bad idea if I'm vaxxed? I'm guessing most any place I go to there's like a 50/50 chance here that they'd even wear a mask since I live in a dumb red state. I remember some podcast (TWIV I think) from last year about how some haircut studio had been exposed a bunch of times and nobody got it because they were all wearing masks, but that was with OG Covid
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