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Larryb posted:And we have our first trailer for the He-Man reboot (which drops September 16): Is this another He-Man reboot or a continuation of Revelations?
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Aug 19, 2021 15:32
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Oh okay it’s completely different. Also so what every show is Star Wars: Rebels now?
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Aug 19, 2021 15:35
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Applewhite posted:Is this another He-Man reboot or a continuation of Revelations? A complete reboot ala the Netflix She-Ra series. Revelation will continue though but not until next year apparently. Also according to someone on He-Man.org, the armored girl is supposedly a gender-flipped Ram Man Larryb fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Aug 19, 2021 15:36
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If you showed me pictures of the plucky gangs of CGI teenaged misfits from SW: Rebels, ST: Prodigy, He Man and whatever the gently caress Tales of Arcadia is, I’m not confident I could tell them apart.
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Aug 19, 2021 15:37
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It also seems like they might just be merging Teela and the Sorceress into one character and that’s who the yellow eyed girl is. Alternatively, they’re leaning hard into the fact that the Sorceress is Teela’s mom and just making her a magic user in this series as well. And some more info regarding the series staff: https://www.cbr.com/he-man-masters-of-the-universe-trailer/ Larryb fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Aug 19, 2021 15:49
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Doesn't look like it'll be my thing, but the designs look nice and dynamic and I'm sure kids will love it.
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Aug 19, 2021 19:10
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Applewhite posted:If you showed me pictures of the plucky gangs of CGI teenaged misfits from SW: Rebels, ST: Prodigy, He Man and whatever the gently caress Tales of Arcadia is, I’m not confident I could tell them apart. To be fair this is being done by the same studio that did the Tales of Arcadia franchise so it makes sense there would be visual similarities
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Aug 19, 2021 19:19
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Some more info straight from Mattel: https://corporate.mattel.com/news/m...on-september-16
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Aug 19, 2021 19:24
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I'm sure kids will like it and I wish them the best, but I don't think this is my thing. Who knows, though? I'll keep my ears to the ground and see what the vibe is. Maybe it will surprise me.
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Aug 19, 2021 19:54
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And we’ve got a cast list: https://www.animationmagazine.net/streaming/first-look-mattel-returns-to-eternia-with-he-man-and-the-masters-of-the-universe-on-netflix/
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Aug 19, 2021 21:30
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Human world comfortable Doug when
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Aug 19, 2021 22:22
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Covok posted:I'm sure kids will like it and I wish them the best, but I don't think this is my thing. Who knows, though? I'll keep my ears to the ground and see what the vibe is. Maybe it will surprise me. Based on the trailer it looks like they’re doing enough interesting stuff story and character-wise that I might check it out, even if the art style is weird and off putting. I have a feeling it’s ultimately going to be merely Okay, especially when stacked up against She-Ra and Revelations.
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Aug 19, 2021 22:42
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nine-gear crow posted:Based on the trailer it looks like they’re doing enough interesting stuff story and character-wise that I might check it out, even if the art style is weird and off putting. I have a feeling it’s ultimately going to be merely Okay, especially when stacked up against She-Ra and Revelations. Yeah, apart from the admittedly off-putting visual style everything else that’s been presented to us regarding the show actually seems pretty interesting (and it’s got quite the solid voice cast to boot). I’d say that’s more than enough for me to at least give it a fair shot. I wonder if there’s going to be any She-Ra content in this series, and if so I wouldn’t mind a few of the SPoP cast reprising their roles even if they wind up playing completely different versions of the characters (in particular I want Adora and Hordak’s VAs back) Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Aug 19, 2021 22:45
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In addition to the whole Horse situation, I hope the follow up on some of the other dangling existential horror threads like the innumerable terrified tiny centaur copies they've been machine-gunning out their hooves the whole time.
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Aug 20, 2021 00:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXZVkydRqEk
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Aug 20, 2021 00:18
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HelleSpud posted:Yeah, that whole your body is being forcibly changed into something you don't want - you should stop complaining. Made me really uncomfortable It's a puberty metaphor. 
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Aug 20, 2021 00:49
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puberty also made me uncomfortable, so i think everything lines up
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Aug 20, 2021 00:50
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Yeah, as a closeted trans kid puberty was pretty horrifying.
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Aug 20, 2021 00:54
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Edit: I couldn't find the right words for this and not happy with it, so I'm taking it down.
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Aug 20, 2021 01:52
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The new masters of the Universe thing looks interesting. Also Ram Man to Ram Ma'am is a great name change. I do wish Duncan was older however. I liked him as a kind of mentor figure and supporter.
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Aug 20, 2021 04:19
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MonsterEnvy posted:The new masters of the Universe thing looks interesting. Also Ram Man to Ram Ma'am is a great name change. New Duncan also strikes me as kind of Sokka-esque, not sure how to feel about that right now. I'm totally fine with Robo Orko and Teela being a sorceress herself though (weird that Tom Kenny is using his Clone Wars narrator voice and not one of his higher pitched ones however). Larryb fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 04:38
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Larryb posted:New Duncan also strikes me as kind of Sokka-esque, not sure how to feel about that right now. It's also looking from the promo shots that Robo Orko is either just a robot drone that's taken to cosplaying as the real Orko for some reason, or was made by Orko in his image, again for some reason. That's got me more intrigued than anything else I saw in the trailer.
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Aug 20, 2021 05:21
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nine-gear crow posted:It's also looking from the promo shots that Robo Orko is either just a robot drone that's taken to cosplaying as the real Orko for some reason, or was made by Orko in his image, again for some reason. That's got me more intrigued than anything else I saw in the trailer. Huh, I just assumed it was the same Orko but he was a robot instead of a Trollan in this version (if not, I wonder if we’ll meet the real deal at some point then). Also do we know how many episodes the first season of this is going to be yet?
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Aug 20, 2021 05:32
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Larryb posted:Huh, I just assumed it was the same Orko but he was a robot instead of a Trollan in this version (if not, I wonder if we’ll meet the real deal at some point then). I mean something up with the backstory because you see Robo Orko posing in front of a statue of what's implied to be the real Orko that's old enough to have had one of its arms fallen off by now, and if you look closely at Robo Orko's design, the hat, scarf, ears, robe and wrappings around his arms to simulate sleeves have clearly been added on later to a pre-existing robot design in an attempt to mimic the look of the statue. So there is a story there.
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Aug 20, 2021 05:39
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nine-gear crow posted:I mean something up with the backstory because you see Robo Orko posing in front of a statue of what's implied to be the real Orko that's old enough to have had one of its arms fallen off by now, and if you look closely at Robo Orko's design, the hat, scarf, ears, robe and wrappings around his arms to simulate sleeves have clearly been added on later to a pre-existing robot design in an attempt to mimic the look of the statue. So there is a story there. Good point, I imagine this will be explained in the show itself at some point (like maybe the real Orko died a while ago and Ork-0 as this dude is properly named is his replacement for the series)
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Aug 20, 2021 05:43
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Re: Centaurworld, where do minotaurs come from? Seems like they could be from the human world, centaurworld or their own world, and I'm not sure if there was any hint at an explanation. Also if they have their own world clearly that implies the existence of a horseworld 
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Elman posted:Also if they have their own world clearly that implies the existence of a horseworld An "Equestria" if you will.
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Aug 20, 2021 17:10
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Applewhite posted:Oh okay it’s completely different. something something CalArt art style trends. i think this meme is usually from terrible manchilds insulting stuff like Heman and She-ra, but i think there is merit in that there IS a trend for several years, and then some other style replaces it.
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Aug 20, 2021 21:04
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The difference is I can instantly differentiate and recognize the CalArts characters.
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Aug 20, 2021 21:19
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Applewhite posted:The difference is I can instantly differentiate and recognize the CalArts characters. The irony being most of the shows people scream "cALaRrTs StYlE!" aren't done by people who even went to CalArts so the term is a loving meaningless internet buzzword
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Aug 20, 2021 23:17
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nine-gear crow posted:The irony being most of the shows people scream "cALaRrTs StYlE!" aren't done by people who even went to CalArts so the term is a loving meaningless internet buzzword Yeah no I know. I always hated that criticism. I should have put sneer quotes around "CalArts" in my earlier post.
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Aug 20, 2021 23:22
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Well, compared to the original where all characters were literally identical brick houses, I think it's alright. Also they're actually doing some things to make the "masters of the universe" title actually mean something instead of just being pointlessly grandiose. Also they're leaning further into the sci-fi angle instead of that just being a weird background element. Makes me think about how Thundercats was doing something weird about that but was saving the twist until right before the series got cancelled because it was too boring outside of that.
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Aug 21, 2021 00:58
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Kelly Turnbull / Coelasquid has been tweeting a bunch lately about the animation industry and staying on-model and why certain visual styles periodically take over https://twitter.com/Coelasquid/status/1428459034596704256?s=19 https://twitter.com/Coelasquid/status/1428817043713773571?s=19
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Aug 21, 2021 01:40
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Particularly since a bunch of the old styles got invalidated during the shift to HD.
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Aug 21, 2021 03:56
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b1BXOdlrbo
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nine-gear crow posted:The irony being most of the shows people scream "cALaRrTs StYlE!" aren't done by people who even went to CalArts so the term is a loving meaningless internet buzzword The show runners may not, but once it's in production the designs are shifted to be easier for the whole group to draw and adjusted through people who did go to CalArts and influenced by their teaching Steven Universe - Rebecca Sugar's original design  Designed by Cartoon Network committee  
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HelleSpud posted:The show runners may not, but once it's in production the designs are shifted to be easier for the whole group to draw and adjusted through people who did go to CalArts and influenced by their teaching you do realize that half the shows on that chart weren't on Cartoon Network, right. also that dipper is off model also also! the "calarts style" critique was coined by John K, who in addition to being a monster is also infamous for poo poo-talking popular shows that aren't his (such as claiming the Simpsons "succeeded despite the writing" in the early '90s), so you should really take that critique with a grain of salt - especially when literally everyone who's currently working in the industry has said it's not true.
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Aug 22, 2021 11:53
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Like, there is something to be said for how the success of Adventure Time spawned an entire generation of animators and popularized certain stylistic techniques, but the "Cal Arts Style" criticism misses the point hard by assuming it's taught to students and enforced by networks as opposed to something that evolved organically, and are present in the character designs of some shows but not others.
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Aug 22, 2021 12:07
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You basically seem to be lumped in to 'CalArts style' if you're a relatively simple non-anime style (and for practicality reasons any smaller show is likely to be fairly simplified) done with thin outlines and no gradients (either flat shading or solid band shading). And like I mentioned before, I really attribute the shift to those two elements as being a consequence of both HD and also to a certain degree the modern era of computer-aided animation processes like Toonz, both coming at nearly the same time. Those stylistic elements go really well with those developments. They're all a little off-model, or in the case of something like Steven, that mouth CAN be on model but is VERY rarely used. It's pretty clear someone started with the right and then filled in the left. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Aug 22, 2021 |
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Aug 22, 2021 13:07
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