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Does anyone else play in a 12-team standard auction league ($200) where RB values are just way, way over what sites like FantasyPros and ESPN project? Like I see the top RB being worth $70 on some of these lists and you need to pay $80-90 for the top-tier guys in my league. It’s been this way for years and I’m really not sure what we’re undervaluing that is causing this.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 18:24 |
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poly and open-minded posted:Fortunately both start at 6 AM This is a crime
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 18:30 |
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Dynasty auctions sounds like hell.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 18:31 |
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Yeah, hell of a good time
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 18:37 |
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illcendiary posted:Does anyone else play in a 12-team standard auction league ($200) where RB values are just way, way over what sites like FantasyPros and ESPN project? Like I see the top RB being worth $70 on some of these lists and you need to pay $80-90 for the top-tier guys in my league. It’s been this way for years and I’m really not sure what we’re undervaluing that is causing this. Probably guys in the WR and RB 15-30 range.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 18:44 |
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Dynasty auctions rule, and one of the most fun drafts I’ve ever done was a slow dynasty auction. You place bids on players, which are won when there are no higher bids for a certain amount of time (12 or 24 hrs, can’t remember). You can even set bid thresholds for specific players that will auto up your bid if someone goes over you but still under your set threshold. Pure crack.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 19:05 |
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RCarr posted:This is a crime I forgot to mention one is Sat and one is Sun but man, it sometimes sucks to have friends in Asian time zones.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 19:09 |
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Quarterroys posted:Dynasty auctions rule, and one of the most fun drafts I’ve ever done was a slow dynasty auction. Yeah that sounds like hell.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 19:31 |
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Dynasty auctions are cool but a slow dynasty auction is something I’d rather die than attempt. gently caress that. Normal slow drafts are terrible enough as you sit there waiting 20+ hours for someone to take Kamara with the 3rd pick or whatever.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 19:34 |
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My dynasty slow draft started Monday. On Sunday the first guy selected Najee Harris I know I've already complained about this in this thread and been told to set limits but I just want to reinforce how loving annoying that was
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 19:57 |
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He spent a day trying to trade out of 1.01 after probably spending the last 2 weeks trying to trade out of 1.01 right?
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:11 |
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Almost a week. Monday TO Sunday
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:35 |
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Oh my god kick him out of the league. He probably spent the previous weeks trying to trade the pick too.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:37 |
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kiimo posted:Almost a week. Monday TO Sunday Is there no max time?
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:43 |
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Whoreson Welles posted:Is there no max time? Yea seriously, you NEED a time limit in a slow draft.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:43 |
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Right next season is 12 hours, I listened to you guys. But I should mention this guy drafting first was no accident. He also had 6 QBs in a non-superflex dynasty league and won 2 games. I hate when people don't take a league seriously
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:47 |
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I put in a rule for my league that every inactive player on a starting roster is a $10 fee that gets added to the payout pot. Pretty much specifically to try to get one owner to pay attention and set a starting lineup every week.
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 20:54 |
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Below I've listed league details, tried paring it down to deviations from Yahoo standard. Key differences seem to be points for completed passes, passing yards, half PPR, more points for team defenses, and IDPs. Looking for advice on how to adjust my rankings from typical standard or half-PPR lists to account for differences. Might just go with Footballguys or FantasyPros draft app to plug in scoring/roster. Drafting in 9th slot, based on mocks looking like I'll draft RBs and WRs in first five and wait for QB7-10. Yahoo, 12 teams, 8 team playoffs weeks 15-17 Roster: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, K, DEF, DB, DL, LB, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR, IR, IR, IR Scoring: OFFENSE Completions 0.2 Passing Yards 25 yards per point; 1 points at 300 yards; 2 points at 350 yards; 2 points at 400 yards Passing TDs 6 Ints -2 Rushing Yards 10 yards per point; 1 points at 100 yards; 2 points at 120 yards; 2 points at 140 yards Rushing Touchdowns 6 Receptions 0.5 Receiving Yards 10 yards per point; 1 points at 100 yards; 2 points at 120 yards; 2 points at 140 yards Receiving Touchdowns 6 Return Yards 25 yards per point; 1 points at 100 yards; 2 points at 125 yards; 2 points at 150 yards Return TDs 8 2-Point Conversions 2 Fumbles -1 Fumbles Lost -1 Offensive Fumble Return TD 6 D/ST Sack 2 Interception 2 Fumble Recovery 2 Touchdown 6 Safety 3 Block Kick 2 Extra Point Returned 2 IDPs Tackle Solo 1 Sack 2 Interception 3 Fumble Force 2 Fumble Recovery 2 Defensive Touchdown 6 Safety 4 Pass Defended 1 Block Kick 3 Extra Point Returned 2
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 21:00 |
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A few notes:
For reference, here's our dynasty league's IDP scoring. We've adjusted several of these values over the year. They currently result in IDP guys being as important as offense skill players - in some weeks a DB has the highest score. We also start 6 IDP players (and 7 offensive players). 0.5 PPR. Each reception by an offensive player is worth half of one fantasy point. Offensive scoring: Passing yards: 0.04 points/yd TD pass thrown: 4 points Interceptions thrown: -2 points Rushing yards: 0.1 points/yd Rushing TD: 6 points 2pt rushing conversion: 2 points Receiving yards: 0.1 points/yd Each reception: 0.5 points TD reception: 6 points 2pt receiving conversion: 2 points Kickoff/punt return yards: 0.04 points/yd Kickoff/punt return TD: 6 points Fumble recovered for TD: 6 points Interception return TD: 6 points Blocked punt or FG return for TD: 6 points 1 point Safety: 1 point Fumbles lost: -2 points Defensive scoring: Solo Tackles: 1.5 points Assisted Tackles: .75 points Sacks: 4 points QB Hits: .75 points Tackles for a Loss: 2 or 3 points (2 if includes sacks, 3 if not) Interceptions: 9 points, inclusive of Pass Defensed Passes Defensed: 3 points Forced Fumbles: 4 points Fumble Recoveries: 2 points Safeties: 6 points Blocked Kicks: 6 points Touchdowns: 6 points Rushing yards: 0.1 points/yd Receiving yards: 0.1 points/yd
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 01:09 |
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I held on to Jakobi Meyers against all recommendations and better judgement because I thought he looked the part. Trust your eyes I guess, he has 56 yards and a TD so far
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kiimo posted:I held on to Jakobi Meyers against all recommendations and better judgement because I thought he looked the part.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 01:27 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I think he's going to be legit and will be more fantasy relevant than Bourne. lol damning with faint praise
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 01:31 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I think he's going to be legit and will be more fantasy relevant than Bourne. 87 points it is
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sourdough posted:lol damning with faint praise Spermy Smurf posted:87 points it is I almost said Agholor too but I dont think that would have helped my case
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 01:45 |
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kiimo posted:I held on to Jakobi Meyers against all recommendations and better judgement because I thought he looked the part. Nothing is more important than preseason production
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 01:49 |
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Leperflesh posted:A few notes: Thanks for your input! Unfortunately I don't have little control over these things and think they are locked in for this year at least. On the plus side I believe the yardage is calculated based on fractions per yard. Seems like there's debate every year about whether or not to include IDPs, there's a vocal minority that absolutely hates them, in part because of their swingy nature which you've noted. I remember when JJ Watt was gold because he'd rake in receiving TDs alongside his incredible defensive numbers. Any thoughts on how to factor the scoring/roster into ranking lists? I figure it ups the rankings of QBs somewhat, but hard to say how much. A cute trick sometimes has been to find a WR or IDP that does a lot of returning which bolsters their points total. Also just catching up, I assume expert rankings are taking into the consideration the possibility of players contracting Covid-19 given what I learned about Lamar Jackson having contracted it twice and still debating whether or not to get vaccinated.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 02:00 |
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Ehh I am still skeptical of Meyers as more than a PPR depth piece. This isn't his first time as a preseason stud (see 2019). He is mostly just an underneath option (#49 in Average Target distance, #68 in Deep Targets last year) who is not much of a red zone factor (#94 in Red Zone Targets). Other guys are running the lower percentage but high value money routes and Meyers is the safe option to look to if those aren't available. He's pretty solid at that but his 85/1,088/0 career line so far feels like a giant tell as to his lack of dynamic playmaking ability. Maybe he's just been unlucky at catching TDs... or maybe a guy who runs a 4.63 forty with below average speed and agility scores isn't good at finding the end zone in the big leagues. He also played 45.8% of his snaps out of the slot last year and I think that will drop with Bourne playing primarily out of the slot this season. I think Agholor is going to outproduce him easily. Edit: https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1428528171830415364?s=20 I loving love when Madden spin moves work in real life. Keep J.J. Taylor's name in mind in dynasty or if James White ever gets injured. The Pats coaches love him (they call him "Little Dion") and there have been indications he is being groomed as White's eventual replacement. Tiptoes fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Rhamondre StevenSZN, folks
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 02:39 |
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RCarr posted:Nothing is more important than preseason production He looked good kiimo fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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kiimo posted:He looked good Oh yeah in dynasty he’s definitely worth a stash. I had him years ago and was psyched until Cam tanked the offense.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 03:20 |
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My lord how many RBs does New England have? Who the gently caress is JJ Taylor
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 03:47 |
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kiimo posted:He looked good Don't listen to them. I love Meyers in dynasty. He's a third year guy who had a really good second half last year. He passed the eye test for me. He's just a good football player, and I like trusting that to win out.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 04:13 |
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When I picked him up somebody was yelling at me not to trust preseason and that N'Keal Harry would be dominant once the season started. Whoops Also Philly is going to be playing from behind a LOT and may have the #1 pick next draft. Woof.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 04:24 |
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kiimo posted:My lord how many RBs does New England have? Never draft a New England back
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 05:11 |
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kiimo posted:My lord how many RBs does New England have? the Patriots will be a MONSTER rushing team this season and if you ever even consider starting any of their RBs that'll be the week they get zero carries.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 06:04 |
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anyone have a good link for UDFAs who are going to make fantasy impacts?
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 06:36 |
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kiimo posted:My lord how many RBs does New England have? This was RBs coach Ivan Fears talking about him during minicamp: https://twitter.com/DougKyed/status/1400518730250080258?s=20 Compare that with his comments on Rhamondre Stevenson from early in training camp: https://nesn.com/2021/08/patriots-rhamondre-stevenson-must-improve-everything-ivan-fears/ posted:Asked what Stevenson needs to improve as he works his way through his first NFL training camp, the longtime New England Patriots running backs coach shared a blunt assessment. So the praise does seem genuine to me as Fears is mostly a straight talker. James White is 29 and was allowed to explore his free agency options before they resigned him to a one year deal. They could easily make the move to a younger passing down back next year and Mac Jones has been peppering Taylor with targets when they play together. White has averaged 10+ PPG in PPR in 4 of his last 6 seasons and I think that role is going to be just as productive with Mac Jones at the helm.
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# ? Aug 20, 2021 08:37 |
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RCarr posted:Never draft a New England back Never again
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Sataere posted:Don't listen to them. I love Meyers in dynasty. He's a third year guy who had a really good second half last year. He passed the eye test for me. He's just a good football player, and I like trusting that to win out. Things like reception perception and PFF both grade him out very highly. There's a good chance that Meyers is the top receiver on that team. That still might not be a super relevant role.
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RCarr posted:Dynasty auctions are cool but a slow dynasty auction is something I’d rather die than attempt. gently caress that. Normal slow drafts are terrible enough as you sit there waiting 20+ hours for someone to take Kamara with the 3rd pick or whatever. I'm in 2 slow draft (my first) guillotine leagues right now and I'm already learning slow drafts aren't for me. And these are only 4 hour timers with the clock off overnight. Can't imagine how annoying it'd be to wait days until I can make another pick.
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