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Schnorkles posted:i guess one of the things that's hard to express is how bad wild type got here too its 'funny' that the R of delta (with a population intermittently masking and being mildly cautious) is lower than the true R of original flavor that we saw on cruise ships where no one took any precautions at all. so much of this wave is just a hidden iceberg of infectious people with no symptoms and no one caring about that, even though thats exactly why everyone panicked a year and a half ago
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well so far as my son’s school we have had 1 confirmed staff case no children were present and everything was cleaned up (lmao) so universal masking appears to be helping quite a bit even though it’s probably just delaying the inevitable. Emailed everyone up and down and handed out KF94 samples to his teachers and the principal reminding them we can do better than rags on our faces.
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Geisinger is an integrated payer-provider network btw, they are in control of what their members end up paying after the insurance they provide covers the services they provide. they're renting their members out to some finserv company lol
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fosborb posted:good lord About 5m people in Alabama, so that's what, ~175 kids in the ICUs? Yikes.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:2 of my teenagers went back to high school last Thursday, so they've been in school 5 days now. I've received a positive COVID test notification email from the principal for the past 4 straight days. Things going to go real well. no choice but to keep sending them back
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Geisinger is an integrated payer-provider network btw, they are in control of what their members end up paying after the insurance they provide covers the services they provide. I have a Geisinger hmo it’s very nice
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the question is: why isn't it exploding yet in places like PA, NY, MA, and MI yet? I assume Delta got a firm grip on the unvaccinated in the greater south, but Open Biden happened everywhere
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mastershakeman posted:its 'funny' that the R of delta (with a population intermittently masking and being mildly cautious) is lower than the true R of original flavor that we saw on cruise ships where no one took any precautions at all. so much of this wave is just a hidden iceberg of infectious people with no symptoms and no one caring about that, even though thats exactly why everyone panicked a year and a half ago basically live in terror of giving my infant the virus simultaneously incredibly grateful that schnorkwife left teaching and is at home with him and just being a remote college professor this year so he doesn't have to do daycare or anything similar.
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euphronius posted:I have a Geisinger hmo it’s very nice My brother used to work for their insurance division and just jumped ship. Anyway enjoy being rented out to the payday loan guys
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My work just said return to office is now January 2022 lmao, yeah ok.
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euphronius posted:higher vaccinated rates and more masks I guess the basic thrust of all open biden rn is that we're going to see deaths blunted because of vaccines sure seems like a whole lot of people in the ICU mean that may not be the case!!
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skewetoo posted:We are sooooo hosed when you stop to think about it. We haven't even turned the corner lmfao. it'll just go away on it's own. probably already over
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FizFashizzle posted:the only reason we shut down the first time is the powerful didn't yet know this was an illness that will primarily effect the people they don't care about anyway. Once that was made clear it was full steam ahead. 100% this. We had no clue what COVID was last march and everyone was totally spooked. Now it's understood to be something that rich people can totally protect themselves from and that middle class people can take reasonably effective precautions against and pretend doesn't exist until it hits them so they don't care. Schools causing kids to be hospitalized in noticeable numbers might move the needle a little bit but it would take a senator or something like that dieing or being placed on a vent to scare them in to actually doing something.
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Jon Irenicus posted:the question is: why isn't it exploding yet in places like PA, NY, MA, and MI yet? I assume Delta got a firm grip on the unvaccinated in the greater south, but Open Biden happened everywhere weather. it hit arizona and florida hard last summer when they were all in air conditioning . michigan is doing much better than illinois the last few weeks because they have more outdoor life, that kind of thing and i think a lot of schools are also back in the south already but the midwest is just getting rolling on it
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meet girls at the store posted:Consent manufacturing machine go brrrrrr I mean i guess I understand the economic calculus behind this if we theoretically had infinite hospital beds and infinite hospital staff but this just makes the ruling class look more like utter loving morons than greedy capitalist profit-seekers. yeah the economy is just gonna hum along when everyone is dying, sure.
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Thoguh posted:100% this. We had no clue what COVID was last march and everyone was totally spooked. Now it's understood to be something that rich people can totally protect themselves from and that middle class people can take reasonably effective precautions against and pretend doesn't exist until it hits them so they don't care. Schools causing kids to be hospitalized in noticeable numbers might move the needle a little bit but it would take a senator or something like that dieing or being placed on a vent to scare them in to actually doing something. just need delta to rip through one suck and gently caress yacht and its all gonna go to hell imho
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Der Meister posted:my aunt and uncle are turbo chuds I never speak to at least they're covering their bases asking for a variety of things that won't do poo poo for a virus
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Jon Irenicus posted:the question is: why isn't it exploding yet in places like PA, NY, MA, and MI yet? I assume Delta got a firm grip on the unvaccinated in the greater south, but Open Biden happened everywhere Schools aren't open here yet in NY area.
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Jon Irenicus posted:the question is: why isn't it exploding yet in places like PA, NY, MA, and MI yet? I assume Delta got a firm grip on the unvaccinated in the greater south, but Open Biden happened everywhere Michigan has been taking about a month longer than everywhere else for the waves to hit. Michigan's cases have been steadily rising, and most of the big Michigan school districts aren't opening until like the 30th of August. Michigan generally doesn't have big "gathering" events in the summer. We'll get tagged once football, hockey, and basketball start up and schools are open. We'll be over 10k cases a day by the end of September.
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Lovelyn posted:Anecdotal but the overwhelming majority of breakthrough cases I've seen have had some sort of pre-existing condition that in and of itself makes the patient immunocompromised or necessitates the use of steroids which renders the patient immunocompromised. Some got J&J, some got one or both doses of mRNA. I have infinite compassion for these folks. I've been working on our data for breakthrough infections for a couple weeks now and this is what I'm seeing too. There have been a lot of incidental findings too - patients are in for non-Covid issues and pop positive but are asymptomatic and don't seem to require any Covid related treatment.
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Lansdowne posted:https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/1428541317940920322 Local news caught up with one of the guys who was screaming at doctors during the school board meeting here and well... quote:Lunn says he got angry because parents who oppose the mask mandate weren’t being heard at the meeting. https://www.wsmv.com/news/only-on-4...f93b0fb119.html
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According to HHS data YESTERDAY at 9AM Total Inpatient Beds: 781,367 Total Beds Used: 605,738 Total ICU Beds: 85,584 Total ICU Beds Used: 66,679 Total COVID Patients: 92,770 TODAY at 9AM Total Inpatient Beds: 784,478 Total Beds Used: 609,893 INCREASE OF: 4,155 Total ICU Beds: 85,607 Total ICU Beds Used: 66,698 Total COVID Patients: 93,606 INCREASE OF: 836 Total Increase: 4,991 Total Beds: 870,098 Total Beds used: 676,591 Total Beds Remaining: 193,507 Days until Beds run out: 38.77
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FizFashizzle posted:all our internal stuff is screaming for employees to get a booster. absolutely same
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Fireside Nut posted:I've been working on our data for breakthrough infections for a couple weeks now and this is what I'm seeing too. There have been a lot of incidental findings too - patients are in for non-Covid issues and pop positive but are asymptomatic and don't seem to require any Covid related treatment. non-sterilizing vaccines and the virulence of delta makes me think the level of asymptomatic infection is probably through the roof.
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There is something oddly beautiful and just about covid. Rant and rave about masks, vaccines, distancing, in person schooling, scream and complain all you want. Covid just keeps marching and consuming.
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Schnorkles posted:non-sterilizing vaccines and the virulence of delta makes me think the level of asymptomatic infection is probably through the roof. Always was
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mastershakeman posted:its 'funny' that the R of delta (with a population intermittently masking and being mildly cautious) is lower than the true R of original flavor that we saw on cruise ships where no one took any precautions at all. so much of this wave is just a hidden iceberg of infectious people with no symptoms and no one caring about that, even though thats exactly why everyone panicked a year and a half ago Yes, but have you considered that the fake news China virus hoax is just the flu, and that we can't live in fear, but must instead learn to live with the virus at brunch?
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zegermans posted:holy poo poo when did you get unpermad i've been here the whole time you just didn't see me
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The Virgin US pandemic response vs the Chad R0=8
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Jon Irenicus posted:the question is: why isn't it exploding yet in places like PA, NY, MA, and MI yet? I assume Delta got a firm grip on the unvaccinated in the greater south, but Open Biden happened everywhere I think there are two things happening. The first is the same as we saw last summer - places where people go inside for air conditioning get hit harder and faster than places where the weather allows for more outside activities. I think that we're seeing a repeat of that this year. The second is that I think more vaccinated areas probably have a lower effective R_0 value so it takes them longer to hit the vertical part of the exponential curve. Plus just in general most of the waves last year were regional in nature and just rolled across different areas of the country at different times.
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Schnorkles posted:non-sterilizing vaccines and the virulence of delta makes me think the level of asymptomatic infection is probably through the roof. Plus with testing being in the dumpster and people in general being less inclined to worry about non-severe symptoms I bet we are catching a way lower portion of mild COVID cases as well.
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Schools open earlier in the South than they do up here too - but I'm seeing pretty bad news out of PA and Delaware so it IS spreading up here.
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